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Fairly recent member , but long time reader.

Here's the question, I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the 1/24th scale Airfix Mossie at the end of the year and have finally decided to

get an airbrush so I can do justice to this kit. Obviously i'll do a lot of practicing before potentially ruining a very expensive kit!!

So can anyone recommend a good airbrush/compressor set up for a beginner (40 years of using brushes only)

now I don't nesessarily want a cheap one that'll need replacing within 6 months because I grow out of it

I wan't reliability,performance and ease of use costs upto say £200 ish

Thanks in anticipation Rob.............

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Hi Rob i have been airbrushing for around 4 years now and have had various Different Brushes, However i tend to use an Iwata Revolution cr it costs around £75, The needle size is 0.5 Which is very good for general use, and spares can be Got hold of very easy.

Its easy to use and well made,

Its a Double action ,

As for a Compressor I use a Unit made by Stanley, it has a 6L tank and costs £99 from Screwfix, You will also need a Pressure regulator and Moisture trap, These cost about £25

Hope that is of some Help

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If I had £200 to spend on an airbrush and compressor I would buy a Harder and Steenbeck Evolution 2-in-1 from Paul at Little Cars for £108 see here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27705

And an AB-AS186 compressor with air tank for £88 from everythingairbrush.com: http://www.everythingairbrush.com/acatalog/AS_Series.html

You'll need a hose too.

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Thanks Guys for your prompt replies going to study the options you've suggested

Please keep them coming

Regards Rob.................................

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You won't find many who will knock Iwata. I have one of the Revolution series (can't remember exactly which one) and an Eclipse CS. I mainly use the latter which was about £130. I got them both from airbrushes.com who I would have no hesitation reccomending. Definitely go for a good double action brush. I believe anyone can become a competent user fairly easily. If I can do it, anyone can!

There are many compressors out there. Make sure you get one with a good regulator,water trap and tank (to maintain a constant pressure).

My airbrush set up has been by far the single largest investment I have made in the hobby but has been worth every penny. Glad to see you don't plan to experiment on your Mossie! I'm still experimenting now but usually with less "interesting"results.

Good luck

Steve

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I believe anyone can become a competent user fairly easily. If I can do it, anyone can!

I wish that was the case! :fraidnot:

I bought my airbrush and compressor close on two years ago. And still, every time I am doing a model that I want to display on the club table or enter into a competition I paint it by hand because my airbrush results are unpredictable. Every time I think I've mastered the art of airbrushing the airbrush and compressor conspire against me to show that is it they that are in charge. :banghead:

I envy those of you who can go to your airbrushes confident in the knowledge that you won't ruin the model you've just spent weeks building. :worthy:

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The nice thing is, that you can unscrew the bottom connector and attach an inline moisture trap on to them just like most high end stuff.................

Yes, a good idea, but I've got all that gubbins on my compressor.

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hi carpet monster

I didn't mean to suggest that anyone could pick up an airbrush and get brilliant results. I've made a mess of a few paint jobs and will certainly mess up many more! One of the great things about airbrushing is that truly invisible touch ups are possible.

I do think, with practice and patience,decent results can be achieved by anyone. I do a lot of WW2 Luftwaffe and I don't believe that those finishes can really be done convincingly with a hairy stick.

I actually feel that the voodoo magic is in the preparation of the paint (choice,thinning,flow aids etc). I've been airbrushing for a while now and I still see other people get results which are awesome (in the true English sense of the word). Maybe oneday, with practice,I'll get there-if I live to be 150!!!

Cheers

Steve

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Once again guys thanks for all your recommendations, i'm beginning to formulate a plan of action now

Your help is gratefully received. I'll soon start to post so pics of my efforts for constructive critisism purposes

Regards Rob...........................

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Iwata HP-CH is my weapon of choice - I simply haven't seen better build quality and performance anywhere else (and I've tried a few - I still have a couple of Badgers and an Aztec lurking in the draw).

Personally - I wouldn't recommend the Aztec at all - although some swear by it. I just swear AT it!

Iain

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My $0.02 cents.

there are a lot of good recommendations here. The grex brushes look very nice. I have an Iwata CS. Great brush. I feel that it is a brush that with practice will allow you to do most things from narrow lines to fairly wide coverage. I think that a .50 nozzle is too wide for detail work and the .02's are to narrow for wide coverage.

Also bear in mind the type of paint that you will be using. In my experience some nozzle/needle combinations will require more thinner with a given media then others. For example an 050 needle/nozzle will allow you to spray almost anything given high enough airpressure. Once you get into the .20's though the thinner/paint ratio becomes much more important.

I for one always advocate trying different brushes for feel. Ergonomics will make a difference if you are spraying for an extended period.

I have had cramped hands from long spraying session. Probably bad holding technique, or not taking breaks often enough.

I stay away from siphon feed for detail work. Siphon feeds usually require higher air pressure which can lead to over spray. Gravity feed let you get closer due to lower airbrush pressures.

Of course everyone is different. What I have written is my experience. Some of my buddies seem to be able to through a tin of paint at a model and it comes out great. Me, I struggle.

Get a few cheap kits as test mules and practice practice practice. Learning your brush and what it needs in paint/thinner/air ratios will have a direct impact on how well it performs and how happy you are with the results.

I want one of those Mosquitos. I am saving up.

Edit- I forgot to mention - Wear a good cartridge type mask (VOC grades not just for dust), especially if you are in an enclosed area.

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Fairly recent member , but long time reader.

Here's the question, I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the 1/24th scale Airfix Mossie at the end of the year and have finally decided to

get an airbrush so I can do justice to this kit. Obviously i'll do a lot of practicing before potentially ruining a very expensive kit!!

So can anyone recommend a good airbrush/compressor set up for a beginner (40 years of using brushes only)

now I don't nesessarily want a cheap one that'll need replacing within 6 months because I grow out of it

I wan't reliability,performance and ease of use costs upto say £200 ish

Thanks in anticipation Rob.............

i REALISE THIS IS A BIT OUT OF DATE NOW BUT HERE IS MY TUPPENCEWORTH: i LOVE AIrbrushing (better than typing as you can see!!!) and have sort of collected several over the years. I have a Grex XN, and an Olympos HP100B which the artistic airbrush fraternity think is the bees knees. I also have a BD132, a cheap thing I bought years ago, and I hate to say it feels the best and EASILY paints the finest line, effortlessly, if that is anything to go by! I might get myself a 135 from the Airbrush Pro site I saw linked elsewhere on this thread as I think this is the same basic brush, just with the top cup I prefer. be careful mixing/using paint in most of these brushes which are really more suited (generally) to the art world where they tend to use thinner paint/ink etc than we use on our plastic and NEVER let the trigger snap back as the hydraulic action of the needle slamming paint into the nozzle (the tiny part) will invisibly but irrevocably ruin said small part. hope this is of interest JD

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Hi, I have used Badger airbrushes with a small compressor for over 30 years and get very good results. I do think that how you thin the paint makes all the difference. My airbrushes are both single action and double action, and I do favour the single action with correctly thinned paint.

So I would go for a single action Badger, say a 150 or 200.

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