Okdoky Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hi Folks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Another Double Header for a "Die Bundeswehr" Campaign Build Truly a double header Only kidding,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have two of these kits and both are not now sitting on the get round to it pile. One will be the van The other the box van Drawing photocopied to scale helps so much The first cut is the deepest ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Baby I know ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The first cut is the deepest !! End of evening's work Anyone fancy a 6x6 G Wagon Limo? Off to a good start on the campaign trail. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 13, 2009 Author Share Posted February 13, 2009 Did someone call a Limo???? Tee hee All the best Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4N Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 looks like you are of to a good start. and thats a good idea to do a limo, any one fancy a limo i wouldent mind. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Thanks Danny Will maybe find a use for the chopped tail of the wagon (maybe as a DIY trailor for from a scrappy for civvy subject) waist not want not. The van body is still playing second fiddle to the box body for now. Set to work on the chassis, steering and axles. I am really impressed by the simple, snug and secure fitting that make up the steering components. All very precise and a dream to put together with minimum of glue needed. I will need to set out supports for the front of the box Since the cab is quite small I thought I would also open it up and try my hand at adding interior detais like the door frames, 'A' pillars, interior cills and the like. I only have a couple of interior pics to go by so I still have to hunt around on the web for more to add Any pics of the cills and rear of the driver's compartment would be greatly appreciated. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 interesting couple of builds there Nige. i'm looking forward to seeing the box van finished. do you have any pics of the real life vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hi folks Hi Paul I hope someone can help me as I have hit a minor snag. I have realised that the drawings I have must be a slightly different (possibly older) version of the Kofferaufbau (Box Body) van type and on looking at the reference Marco and Frenchy gave me it gives different overall dimensions for the vehicle than the ones on the drawings. This is the type I want to build. http://www.armyrecognition.com/europe/Holl...ce_Dutch_01.jpg My main problem is just the dimensions of the box in the photos. If I can get that right I can work around the rest. I tried to do some proportions from the pictures I have but the different picture angles and views are throwing me a lot so no two dimensions seem to work out. Or maybe I am just thick DOES ANYONE HAVE THE BASIC DIMENSIONS Has anybody got one of these sitting outside their back door? Hope you can help Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Waiting for some info on chassis length for the box body which hopefully will come tomorrow. Meanwhile had a chance to work on the van body for a change. Chassis length and body are the same as the kit so only needed cutting of the rear pillars filling the rear door panel lines with Revell Plasto The two cabs Blanking off the windows makes it the van body Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yee haa Thanks to Marco on Armorama and a certain Dr Sun of Zeppelin Gmbh I now have the detailed dimensions for the build complete down the damned chassis dimensions ! I say damned cause I was daft enough to go by by first gut instinct and change Its wheelbase from 285 cm to 312 cm and did such a good job on the glue. Yes that is real blood and the offending weapon trying to prise out the plastic insert in the chassis So now I really do have real blood on my meat wagon. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, realistic or what ????? Blood sweat and tears and all I have to show for tonight is the new chassi length. But at least I know it is now correct length. Thanks Marco and Dr Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 I had a chance to cut some plastic last night and now have the basic box All held together with blu tac just to check proportions. I am quite pleased the proportions of the kit and box match Internal wheelarches formed still to be filled and smoothed off Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi there Got round to cutting the windows tonight There seems to be capabilty to vary the design of the ambulance slightly including spare wheel location as on here or located on the roof And load out inside like this in the newer layout or like this in the older version Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 Hi there Got around to making up the second, van bodied chassis and this time built without a cut and shut. Oh the joy of not mixing up the length on this one. Comparison of chassis length How the two look tonight The white minibus at the back is also a Mercedes and is for a further conversion project to another ambulance. The body comes from a kids toy but should be easily shaped into the van body Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 New floor and rear seat in van Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hi folks Worked on the gurny or stretcher support frame for the van body. Two channels made from folded tin foil carry out trays which gives a really nice scale thickness to the frame. Supplemented the frame with additional I section and z section plastruct to form a resemblance of the support structure Also used stretched sprue and wire to resemble the various parts that I understand must lock the gurny into place for transit. Also made up a tray that sits under the frame made out of tin foil again scored and folded I have added the bars that I would think control the locking and unlocking of the gurny that will role on castors in the u channels. I am quite pleased with how the frame sits over the wheel arch Hope you like Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hi folks Made the loading ramp for the stretcher cradle. Used a sandwich of thin plasticard and tin foil and rapped the hinge in the tin foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Had time to make up the support frame for the heart and breathing monitor (I think) Made the frame from tin foil again using my own form of hold and fold equipment I have made it so I can glue it to the rear bench seat cussion for placing in the vehicle after painting As it looks now Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 Don't ya just hate coming across another photo that shows a better angle just after you have finished an area of construction !!!!!!!!!! Damn Will need to adjust the length of the bench seat, floor and tray under the cradle (shorter) and change the support at the front end of the cradle. I am in two minds about starting again on the cradle as the various stops and levers that hold the gurny on the cradle are a lot more visible on this picture. What do you reckon? Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I could say "just put a stretcher on what you've built so beautifully and be done with it"... but I've never seen you build that way so I think you're going to have to make it so that YOU are happy with the result. I always love watching this type of scratchbuilding (even if the subject isn't really my cup of tea) and I know it can be really disheartening if something isn't "right", but you have to bear in mind that to the rest of us, this looks amazing. Tell you what. Why not get on with the other one(s) and come back to it? Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 I am glad I had to redo the cradle. I figured out a different way to make the supports that also mimicks the rail system that will allow the cradle to slide accross from the side to the middle and back for loading and unloading of the stretcher or gurny. Used the tin foil again and formed a u channel around the I section plastic which became the new cross members of the cradle. Everything came apart easily so no real waste and parts were easily adjusted. I took the oportunity to thin some of the items down and to change the arrrangement of the front and rear supports. Cradle in the travelling position And in the load / unload position Am really chuffed with having made mistake for a change as I would not have changed my construction Happy bunny again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob challis Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I am glad I had to redo the cradle.I figured out a different way to make the supports that also mimicks the rail system that will allow the cradle to slide accross from the side to the middle and back for loading and unloading of the stretcher or gurny. Used the tin foil again and formed a u channel around the I section plastic which became the new cross members of the cradle. Everything came apart easily so no real waste and parts were easily adjusted. I took the oportunity to thin some of the items down and to change the arrrangement of the front and rear supports. Cradle in the travelling position WOW! What a great piece of work. Makes me want to consider scratch building. Thank you for sharing this. Kind regards, Rob And in the load / unload position Am really chuffed with having made mistake for a change as I would not have changed my construction Happy bunny again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 WOW! What a great piece of work. Makes me want to consider scratch building. Thank you for sharing this. Kind regards, Rob Thank Rob You should give it a tryas it is quite satifying when something comes together that is not just glued and screwed together OOB. Though it can get to you when a bit just doesn't want to play. Some of the other guys make it look so easy when they do theirs. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob challis Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I am tempted Nige but need to finish my 6 wheeled Tyrrell first then the Revel B1 Lancer plus all the normal family stuff. Take care, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Did a little bit of corrections and small addition Revamped the heart monitor support frame and added a strap and buckle all from tin foil Also aded a couple of tie down straps for some equipment (possibly a folding stretcher) on the side of the rear bench seat. Maybe someone in the Medical Corps can tell me what gets held here normally. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 I thought the gutters around the van are too obvious for them to be ignored especially as there has to be a roofrack fitted with clamps. How the kit gutters are represented by very basic raised area I decided to add new gutters from the tin foil again First the long sections Linked around the back Down the windscreen frame I also found a textured plastic from stationary store folders to use as headlining in the van and cab. I am hoping the texture will still show through when the ceiling colour is painted on it. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hi there Does anyone know if the roof gutters on the cab of the box bodied ambulance extend around the rear of the shortenened cab or if they end at the rear edge of the cab sides :-? Just about to add these gutters but have no close up pics of the roof and behind the cab. Thanks folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okdoky Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 2 G just became 3 G Decided that since the bits are the same and the painting process might be easier if done together, I thought I would make the start on the third G wagon Started life as the long wheel base Rally MB 230 G Paris Dakar And is going to become one of these I wimped out of doing a soft top short G as I am not sure if I would get the interior right but if anyone has another of these Revell or Italeri kits going cheep I might just pursuade myself to give one a try after these The cut and shut process is fairly basic with nice straight cills to get good measurements on and easy to lay off the right angles from to do the cuts Too late to turn back (either another nice model or more scrap plastic now) And after the cut this should be the shut Option two would be to do a soft top but that will be another time I think Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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