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Xtracrylix - need opinion


DominikS

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Hi!

In quite near future I will have to change colours I paint kits. So far I have been using Gunze Mr Color paints. They are very good but there is one problem. Their smell is quite intense. My family start complainig so I'm thinking of changing the paints from C-seies to H-series. Unfortunately the Mr.Hoby palette is not as wide as Mr.Color. And I need all Second World War RAF and FAA colours.

Visiting Hannants website I've found that there are Xtracrylix colours, but I don't know anything about them. Can anyone write me anything about those paints? Are they worth spending money?

Thanks in advance

DominikS

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Hi!

In quite near future I will have to change colours I paint kits. So far I have been using Gunze Mr Color paints. They are very good but there is one problem. Their smell is quite intense. My family start complainig so I'm thinking of changing the paints from C-seies to H-series. Unfortunately the Mr.Hoby palette is not as wide as Mr.Color. And I need all Second World War RAF and FAA colours.

Visiting Hannants website I've found that there are Xtracrylix colours, but I don't know anything about them. Can anyone write me anything about those paints? Are they worth spending money?

Thanks in advance

DominikS

Its all I tend to use nowadays - mainly as they do "authentic" shades of RAF/RN colours.

Only real problem is they can dry a bit "brittle" and can be easily scuffed or chipped. Likewise I've had a few problems with Tamiya masking tape lifting some colours - that was most likely down to me not preparing the surface properly!

It does dry quickly as well - which has its own pro's and con's!!!

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I use XTRACRYLIX all the time, and if i've run out i use Revell square pots. Hardly and pong from either of them and you can thin them with water easily.......

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I didn't think I would be saying this but Revell square pots are actually rather good. Their biggest et down is that so many colours have to be mixed. Of preference I use Lifecolor then Tamiya and lastly Xtracrylix. As Paul from little Cars said, it's all down to personal preference.

Tony :clif:

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I use XTRACRYLIX all the time, and if i've run out i use Revell square pots. Hardly and pong from either of them and you can thin them with water easily.......

Me too. The Xtracrylix also dry semi-gloss so no need to coat with Klear before decalling. revell are good and easily available (from Hobbycraft) but tend to have US/German colours but not RAF in my (limited) experience..

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Love Xtracrylix! Make sure they go down on primer though and coat with Klear.I wish the range was bigger

Stephen

Do you need to coat them Stephen? I thought they were decal ready.

Tony :clif:

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Me too. The Xtracrylix also dry semi-gloss so no need to coat with Klear before decalling. revell are good and easily available (from Hobbycraft) but tend to have US/German colours but not RAF in my (limited) experience..

I find some colours a pain to spray while some go on really well.

As said above its all about personal preference so try a tin and see how you get on.

Thin with their own brand thinners or water plus a drop or two of flow enhancer and a cotton bud soaked in IPA for when the tip of your AB clogs up.

I use Tamiya or Gunze with Cellulose thinners so that not going to help with your smell issue

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Do you need to coat them Stephen? I thought they were decal ready.

Tony :clif:

I find that I get a satin finish rather than gloss so coat with Klear as a matter of course as it also allows an oil wash and protects the paint.

Stephen

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I've been using Vallejo and Xtracrylix paints after getting back into modelling recently. I can't really use anything other than acrylics as I don't (yet) have a dedicated work area and I don't want to get any grief over bad smells.

I found Xtracrylix to be pretty good. They have plenty of colours available, especially for British colours and they are easily available. My advice for using these paints...

i) Be sure to wipe down your model with IPA before starting painting.

ii) Use a primer before spraying with acrylics as this will greatly enhance their adhesion. I use Vallejo Model Air Grey Primer.

iii) You can use various mediums to thin Xtracrylix, but I have have had best results with Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner. Following a tip from a member of this forum I tried it and found they spray great using the Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner, I didn't have to stop to clean the nozzle/needle so often, and the paint seemed to dry a little quicker once it was on the model.

iv) After you have finished with the Xtracrylix and left the last coat overnight to dry, spray two or three coats of Klear over the top to seal everything in.

If you follow this method you should get pretty good results, and the best part is you don't make so many nasty smells (well not unless you had a curry before you started painting).

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Please forgive me if I am hijacking the thread slightly but I like Xtracrylix yet have had problems with thinning with anything other than their own thinner. I have used water and I have used IPA but both have caused the paint to clump, both in and out of the airbrush. Has anyone else had this problem? Reading the thread I may try the Vallejo airbrush cleaner to see if that works for me.

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Xtracrylic is ketone based hence the thinner smells like nail varnish remove which is basically acetone. I've found that they don't mix well with IPA at all. Mr Color Aqueous is alcohol based and hence works exceedingly well with IPA. Both can be thinned with water but I don't think it's very good for spraying

Acetone is not as volatile as IPA and therefore I've found you can't thin Xtracrylic as much as Mr Color Aqueous using IPA without it pooling or running. Also Xtracrylic does clog your airbrush after a few minutes spraying or if you pause in your work. This was a real nightmare with my Revell Student but have recently started using an Iwata Revolution CR and found it much better able to handle Xtracrylic, though it still clogs.

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Natter - If you have had good results with their thinner why worry about results with other mediums.

might be of use linky

Thanks for the link, it sums up the fun and games I have had with the Xtracrylix. I will stick with their own brand thinners and try the Vallejo airbrush cleaner mentioned elsewhere too. Thanks again.

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