spike7451 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Read on 'The Goat', now wait for all the 'it's a deathtrap & should be scrapped' experts to comment... As it has now been on the news, I feel I can share with everyone here the events of the weekend up here in the north of Scotland. We had one of our aircraft leave the runway on Friday afternoon, after blowing one or more of it's tyres on landing. All crew safe, no injuries, just some clean underwear needed... For those of you who've ever wondered what might happen if you drove into those sand run-offs you sometimes find on steep slopes, please see below... Recovery action took place today, and I was there amred with my camera in betwen doing a few bits and pieces to assist the specialist team from South Wales who did a magnificent job in rescuing the jet.. More PICS HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Could have been nasty. glad all are okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Its death trap and should be scrapped! Those transits are a bloody disgrace! Thank heavens every one got out Ok, might be a few more spares knocking about the Nimrod fleet now though (is it robbery or cannibiliastion?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Troffa said: Its death trap and should be scrapped! Those transits are a bloody disgrace! Â Glad to hear that the crew are ok. Danny Edited December 18, 2022 by Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado64 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 it's still in one piece , wheres the problem ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Is the recovery team's motto still "Iubendum, vemendum" as we were told back in the 1960s? Anyone taught Latin will see the joke. Edgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 it's still in one piece , wheres the problem ??????? These things happen in all walks of aviation...... We had a VC10 go off the taxiway but he kept power on and managed to get it back onto the hard standing........ seen countless Fokkers and 737's that have gone walkies... Pics of the Grimrod recovery are here http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 These things happen in all walks of aviation...... We had a VC10 go off the taxiway but he kept power on and managed to get it back onto the hard standing........ seen countless Fokkers and 737's that have gone walkies...Pics of the Grimrod recovery are here http://www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69234 That's the same link I posted,Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado64 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Is the recovery team's motto still "Iubendum, vemendum" as we were told back in the 1960s? Anyone taught Latin will see the joke.Edgar funny but not proper latin !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 it's still in one piece , wheres the problem ??????? If the tire was u/s and missed on the flight servicing then the blow out could potentially have killed someone. Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Is the recovery team's motto still "Iubendum, vemendum" as we were told back in the 1960s? Anyone taught Latin will see the joke.Edgar Is that the same way as old Maintenance Units' Edgar? Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Is the recovery team's motto still "Iubendum, vemendum" as we were told back in the 1960s? Anyone taught Latin will see the joke.Edgar Got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado64 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 If the tire was u/s and missed on the flight servicing then the blow out could potentially have killed someone. Danny. i,m sure it wouldn't have been and dealing with mechanics and engineering for 35 yrs ( i started spannering cars at ten ) sometimes all the checks in the world will not pick up a faulty component you just have to put trust in everything that could have been done , was done as i said it's in one piece and everyone walked ....result !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atdb27 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 In my long gone days as a Sootie the saying was,. "If flying was difficult son we would do it"! But as always in very poor Latinus ' They bendus we fixus' Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Coulda been nasty The proximity of the recovery crew & vehicles gives a good sense of scale to the aircraft... and the dramatic sky helps too. Glad it ended well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccymad Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 maybe being a bit thick here but the port u/c looks ok?clearly the stbd u/c lost all tyres ,so why did it veer off to port?over correction by the monkey at the stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Is that the transit MKII or the MkIII ADV?? Overdone the weathering a bit on those wheels? Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Is that the transit MKII or the MkIII ADV?? Overdone the weathering a bit on those wheels? Julien Mig Pigments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Bee Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 maybe being a bit thick here but the port u/c looks ok?clearly the stbd u/c lost all tyres ,so why did it veer off to port?over correction by the monkey at the stick? He has lost 50% of his braking, so to stop he has placed the serviceable rotating wheels into the dirt to dig them in and stop relatively smoothly. Rather than jabbing the brakes and causing the aircraft to severely swing to the left causing more damage as the brakes on the blown wheels will no longer work as the maxorets will detect the slower skidding wheels and release brake pressure rendering them useless Or putting the blown, not rotating smoothly, wheels into the dirt sending excessive vibrations through the aircraft My thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wobbley here said the frame only had 9 months left till scrapping, suspect that date may be brought forward. Notice the wheel angles, everybody is on oversteer!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Bee Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Notice the wheel angles, everybody is on oversteer!. A Skid and everyone knows you turn in to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Pulfrew Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 He has lost 50% of his braking, so to stop he has placed the serviceable rotating wheels into the dirt to dig them in and stop relatively smoothly. Sorry Matt It is not easy to tell how many and on what side tyres are when they blow. I've had a few "go" in my time; on at least one of those occasions no-one knew a tyre had gone until we had taxied in and shut down. On the VC10 the eng could see the main wheels on the AAR camera, on the MR2 only the beams can see the main wheels and they would have been strapped in facing forward. As for deliberately steering off the runway.... with several thousand feet to go in front of me.... I don't think any pilot would plan to do that. No guarantee that the undercarriage will stay on in that situation and that would make things a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Bee Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sorry MattIt is not easy to tell how many and on what side tyres are when they blow. I've had a few "go" in my time; on at least one of those occasions no-one knew a tyre had gone until we had taxied in and shut down. On the VC10 the eng could see the main wheels on the AAR camera, on the MR2 only the beams can see the main wheels and they would have been strapped in facing forward. As for deliberately steering off the runway.... with several thousand feet to go in front of me.... I don't think any pilot would plan to do that. No guarantee that the undercarriage will stay on in that situation and that would make things a lot worse. As I said those are my thoughts, doesn't mean they are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgpw Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I agree with Ronald. Seen too many of these to think that you would try to steer into the soft, as the soft is veerrrrrrrrrrry soft. For my two bits, it looks like a lot of braking took place in the last third of the runway, perhaps this was a fast/deep landing? Crosswind limits? Compared to some tyre failures, this one seems very civilised. Often the only time the crew know that a tyre has gone, is when the ground crew tell them. Then it all gets very exciting as there will be several kilos of tyre scattered across the runway............ Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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