JTninja Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Fukuryu said: How good (or bad) is the A-26B kit? I am generally unmoved by Italeri releases, but I like that aircraft and the Cartograf-printed decal is tempting. It's decent, kinda what you expect from a 20 year old mold. I'd argue this mold was one of Italeri's better offerings at the time, and a noticeable step up from the Airfix offering. It makes for a decent A-26 B/C, though not good for a K variant (as noted above). If you want to build the A-26 in 1/72, it's the best of very limited options. You can read reviews from the previous B kits as well as the other variants here https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-1249-b-26k-counter-invader--104122 1
The wooksta V2.0 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 People who don't want to pay for the ancient Airfix offering? Look, just because something is more than five years old, it is not bad. It just means it's not state of the art - or do you want to be spoon fed? 2
Dennis_C Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) That is a decent kit and most importantly I do not believe we will see anything newer in a foreseeable future. The worst thing about the kit is the traditional Italeri approach to replace parts of the sprues leading to the kit being only B or C or K version. I'd love K personally but that was only issued once 20 years ago... Edited February 13 by Dennis_C 1
reini Posted February 14 Posted February 14 F-104S, I dont think Italeri has boxed the S-variant. But ESCI has, so most likely its just that. Apart from few extra parts its the same as the G boxing I suppose?
Giorgio N Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, reini said: F-104S, I dont think Italeri has boxed the S-variant. But ESCI has, so most likely its just that. Apart from few extra parts its the same as the G boxing I suppose? Esci included the S as decal option in both their 1/72 and 1/48 kits. However their idea of an S was just adding the additional ventral fins and the extra underwing pylons, none of the other differences was riproduce in the kits. Their G also lacked the bulged wheel well doors and the wider main tires so really they were early Gs at best 1 1
Robertone139 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 19 hours ago, Overflow said: Its a medicore kit by today's standards but its more or less ok, relatively fine panel lines and accurate shape and sizes, they botched B-26K cockpit, but for a B its ok, as far as other mentioned releases, who buys these kits today? Unfortunately for us 1/72 builders it's the Italeri/Revell Invader or the prehistoric Airfix. The one advantage of the Airfix is that both the gunship and the bomber lead can be built from one box.
stevehnz Posted February 14 Posted February 14 On 2/14/2025 at 8:25 AM, Fukuryu said: How good (or bad) is the A-26B kit? I am generally unmoved by Italeri releases, but I like that aircraft and the Cartograf-printed decal is tempting. As has been said, it is this or the older Airfix if you can find one. I built this one a year ago & was frustrated with missing details & poorly engineered structure, the promise in the sprues was not realised in the building. That said, it came up OK in the end. Steve. 1 1
PhantomBigStu Posted February 14 Posted February 14 On 2/13/2025 at 4:47 PM, Robertone139 said: Are you telling me that Italeri is ripping off modelers?🤔 If you buy this kit you deserve it. Indeed, I’m the proverbial fool who got the last boxing for the VPAF decals and would be tempted if there is an interesting su-27 option provided
JWM Posted February 15 Posted February 15 A bit general question - why the mainstream producer make such strategy that some kits vanishing from the market for a decades before they came back the same? Instead of running a bit wider and elastic front ? In modern times they can get a feedback from market, perhaps on a main web page opening a pole "the most demanded from the currently unavailable" and from time to time release a short batch of the top ten from this list? I think Do 17 boxes will be there despite their elderly. And will bring certain profit. Regards J-W 1
Graham Boak Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I think the answer to this is that the results from web suggestions have not historically converted into sales. Those who comment on the internet are self-selected from the dedicated: a minority inside a minority. They also do not always convert an interest into a sale. I can see that the Do,17, as a subject, continues to be a draw among us. But a certain profit from the number required to be economically produced? I don't see the basis for the word "certain". Playing a bit with the English language, perhaps unfairly, the phrase "will bring certain profit" can be taken with two meanings. You mean it will certainly bring a profit (as opposed to a loss), and that is how I and I don't doubt others will read it, but it can also be read as meaning "a certain profit" where "certain" does not have to be large or even positive. 1
Overflow Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, JWM said: A bit general question - why the mainstream producer make such strategy that some kits vanishing from the market for a decades before they came back the same? Instead of running a bit wider and elastic front ? In modern times they can get a feedback from market, perhaps on a main web page opening a pole "the most demanded from the currently unavailable" and from time to time release a short batch of the top ten from this list? I think Do 17 boxes will be there despite their elderly. And will bring certain profit. Regards J-W Because model companies seldom have people interested in modelling enough to keep up with current trends and able to properly judge what will or will not sell. Some of them literally don't know where toolings are located., 99% of modelling co. hire people with business diplomas, that have low value in this highly specialized market, where knowledge of kits histories, and history at large is paramount. 1 1 3
JWM Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Small correction: I meant of course Do 217 not Do 17 which never was in range of Italeri I think. Just a typo, sorry for that. Namely, I am still waiting for re-issue of Do 217 E, which I skipped when it was on each corner due to different idea on how many of Do 217 should I finally have on my shelves. I have N2 and K2, Some years ago I thought that it is enough but now I will like to have at least one E with HS 293 and perhaps even one more - the J in RA colors... 47 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: "a certain profit" where "certain" does not have to be large or even positive. This works also in Polish, as a bit ironic sense of "certain" 1
Graham Boak Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I agree that the Do.217 is even less well covered than the Do.17, in fact the kits available of the later design are superior. I have at least four of the Italeri (having done three from the Airfix) but the surgery needed on the rear fuselage has meant they remain in the "get round to them sometime" area of the stash. 1
GiampieroSilvestri Posted February 20 Posted February 20 If Italeri would not release old Esci kits where would modellers get another 1/48 scale Fiat G91,Mirage F1 or Aermacchi MB326 and 326K Impala from?With a little bit of modelling skills one can get a very good model out of them. Saluti Giampiero 3 2 5
TEXANTOMCAT Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, GeejeeZ said: Yes, and while we're at it: where's that long awaited Italeri re-release of Esci's 1/48 JetRanger? And the 1/72 civil version which was only a limited boxing in 2014 (LAPD IIRC) 1 1
Julien Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Right I have removed quite frankly a whole load of dross from this thread, either keep it on topic or dont bother to post. For those posting this rubbish please take moderator direction or suffer the consequences, Thx Julien 2 4 1 1
Julien Posted February 21 Posted February 21 23 hours ago, GiampieroSilvestri said: If Italeri would not release old Esci kits where would modellers get another 1/48 scale Fiat G91,Mirage F1 or Aermacchi MB326 and 326K Impala from?With a little bit of modelling skills one can get a very good model out of them. Saluti Giampiero Or dare I say the 1/72 F-5A which they have recently reboxed again, and is still a good kit. 4 2
Giorgio N Posted February 24 Posted February 24 On 2/21/2025 at 10:24 PM, Julien said: Or dare I say the 1/72 F-5A which they have recently reboxed again, and is still a good kit. The 1/72 F-5A is in a different class compared to the 1/48 G.91 and Mirage F-1 2
Homebee Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 (edited) Released - 1/48 - ref. 2839 - Dassault Mirage F-1 - new decals - (old ESCI kit) https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3162 V.P. Edited March 7 by Homebee 2 1
Stephen Posted March 6 Posted March 6 4 hours ago, Homebee said: Released - 1/48 - ref. 2839 - Dassault Mirage F-1 - new decals - (old ESCI kit) https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3162 - 1/72 - ref. 0197 - Sukhoi Su-33 "Flanker-D" - new decals https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/102 - 1/72 - ref. 35105 - GD/LM F-16C Fighting Falcon - War Thunder https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3164 V.P. ATAC decals for the F.1 ! 3
PhantomBigStu Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, Homebee said: Released - 1/48 - ref. 2839 - Dassault Mirage F-1 - new decals - (old ESCI kit) https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3162 - 1/72 - ref. 0197 - Sukhoi Su-33 "Flanker-D" - new decals https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/102 - 1/72 - ref. 35105 - GD/LM F-16C Fighting Falcon - War Thunder https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3164 V.P. As per the earlier discussion on the su33, only one of the decal options is correct as it’s not an su33 maybe I’ll pick it up to keep the decals to repaint my su-27k diecast one day….btw the falcon is 1/48 Edited March 6 by PhantomBigStu
AlbertLima Posted March 6 Posted March 6 8 hours ago, Homebee said: Released - 1/48 - ref. 2839 - Dassault Mirage F-1 - new decals - (old ESCI kit) https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3162 - 1/72 - ref. 0197 - Sukhoi Su-33 "Flanker-D" - new decals https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/102 - 1/72 - ref. 35105 - GD/LM F-16C Fighting Falcon - War Thunder https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3164 V.P. ...but both the box and website listing for the F-16 say it's the 1/48 kit? Would be nice if they made a new release of their 1/72 "Night Falcon" with new decals, but that's not what's happening here 1 hour ago, PhantomBigStu said: As per the earlier discussion on the su33, only one of the decal options is correct as it’s not an su33 maybe I’ll pick it up to keep the decals to repaint my su-27k diecast one day….btw the falcon is 1/48 Their "Su-33" kit is probably going to still be issued well after I'm gone - I guess it is a bit of history in it's one of the first carrier Flanker kits around, but it's short on other merits
JFM148 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 9 hours ago, Homebee said: Released - 1/48 - ref. 2839 - Dassault Mirage F-1 - new decals - (old ESCI kit) https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3162 - 1/72 - ref. 35105 - GD/LM F-16C Fighting Falcon - War Thunder https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3164 V.P. Great to see the 1/48 Mirage F.1 reissued with very interesting decals. Very interesting Pakistani F-16 decals in their 1/48 Falcon. Edited March 6 by JFM148
Homebee Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 (edited) Released - 1/72 - ref. 0197 - Sukhoi Su-33 "Flanker-D" - new decals https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/102 V.P. Edited March 7 by Homebee
Homebee Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 Released - 1/72 - ref. 35105 - GD/LM F-16C Fighting Falcon - War Thunder https://www.italeri.com/prodotto/3164 V.P. 2
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