GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I can't wait for the Macchi MC202 and the Lancia Fulvia. Saluti Giampiero 2
SprueMan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 17/01/2025 at 21:45, Overflow said: This has to be by far the worst Italeri catalogue of recent times, century old toolings, no H-21, no F-5B and RF-5A, no XB-35/49, not a single new tool 72nd scale aircraft( M-346, G-91 etc...) these people are living in some paralel universe IF; all that you are concerned about are aircraft in your favourite scale of your favourite ( and obscure aircraft). The new models are: NEW: Iveco Stralis S-way truck in 1/24 NEW: Lancia Fulvia in 1/24 NEW: F-35A in 1/48 NEW: Macchi MC 202 Folgore in 1/48 NEW: Macchi C.200 in 1/32 NEW: Semovente M43 in 1/35 New version: MAS Torpedo boat in 1/35 New version: Semovente M42 in 1/35 New Version: Bugatti 35 So, one truck, one race car, three aircraft and one armour and boat. I think that is decent for a company to bring out along side the updated models and reissues. I think it is you that is living in a parallel universe if you think that your wishes for obscure aircraft perfectly conform to the strategies of a company. 4 1 1
Piotr Mikolajski Posted January 18 Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, SprueMan said: The new models are: NEW: Iveco Stralis S-way truck in 1/24 NEW: Lancia Fulvia in 1/24 NEW: F-35A in 1/48 NEW: Macchi MC 202 Folgore in 1/48 NEW: Macchi C.200 in 1/32 NEW: Semovente M43 in 1/35 New version: MAS Torpedo boat in 1/35 New version: Semovente M42 in 1/35 New Version: Bugatti 35 So, one truck, one race car, three aircraft and one armour and boat. Three of them were announced for 2024: 3963 - 1/24 - Iveco Strails S-Way 2516 - 1/32 - Macchi C.200 6751 - 1/35 - M43 105/25
SprueMan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: Three of them were announced for 2024: 3963 - 1/24 - Iveco Strails S-Way 2516 - 1/32 - Macchi C.200 6751 - 1/35 - M43 105/25 and? They are still new model, only delayed. 1
Piotr Mikolajski Posted January 18 Posted January 18 37 minutes ago, SprueMan said: and? They are still new model, only delayed. Indeed, only delayed, such a tradition: Aviation 1/32 2511 — NATO Pilots, Ground Crew and Accessories — 100% New Moulds — announced: 2016 Aviation 1/48 2665 — AgustaWestland AW101 Merlin HM.1 — 100% New Moulds — PRM Editions — announced: 2011 2714 — Jaguar GR.1/GR.3 — 100% New Moulds — announced: 2012 roku 2792 — Supermarine Spitfire I — 100% New Moulds — Super Decal — announced: 2019 AFVs 1/35 6512 — Renault FT-17 Canon Girod Turret — 100% New Moulds — announced: 2013 Ships 1/72 5622 — Higgins 78′ Torpedo Boat — 100% New Moulds — announced: 2017 Of course this tradition does not only apply to new toolings, reissues also fall under it. Below is the number of those announced between 2010 and 2022 that have not been released to date. Aviation 1/48 — 10 (the earliest: 2016) Aviation 1/72 — 16 (the earliest: 2010) AFVs 1/35 — 4 (the earliest: 2012) Trucks 1/24 — 1 (the earliest: 2016) Cars 1/24 — 3 (the earliest: 2020) Ships 1/72 — 1 (the earliest: 2022) Trumpeter has the record for delays with the MiG-19 announced in 2008, but it is Italeri that has the record for the number of kits that were announced years ago and that still have not been released. And this means that announcements from the Italeri catalogue should be regarded as wishful thinking of the manufacturer until they appear in next month's release announcements. 3 1
Stephen Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/17/2025 at 10:54 PM, Phas3e said: I dont think Italeri has released a 1/48 Bf109E before so I wonder whos plastic it is. Hasegawa.
Overflow Posted January 19 Posted January 19 4 hours ago, SprueMan said: IF; all that you are concerned about are aircraft in your favourite scale of your favourite ( and obscure aircraft). The new models are: NEW: Iveco Stralis S-way truck in 1/24 NEW: Lancia Fulvia in 1/24 NEW: F-35A in 1/48 NEW: Macchi MC 202 Folgore in 1/48 NEW: Macchi C.200 in 1/32 NEW: Semovente M43 in 1/35 New version: MAS Torpedo boat in 1/35 New version: Semovente M42 in 1/35 New Version: Bugatti 35 So, one truck, one race car, three aircraft and one armour and boat. I think that is decent for a company to bring out along side the updated models and reissues. I think it is you that is living in a parallel universe if you think that your wishes for obscure aircraft perfectly conform to the strategies of a company. First learn how to communicate politely, than except that there are people that know bit more then you regarding certain topic, and for that reason I have written my post. Iveco Stralis will have new cab, but everything else will be recycled from earlier tools making it half new tool, half not( transmission, suspension, wheels etc..) Fulvia👍 Their F-35 in 48th scale is worst representation of F-35 in mentioned scale, even worse than Trumpeter in 32nd, every ram panel is either made up or totally wrong shape. Canopy in B has totally wrong canopy frame. C although slated for 2024 was replaced by A to gain money from Italian government =" Aeronautica Militare" boxings. Folgore will be a direct copy of their 32nd.kit using all the wrong research and its implementation. Macchi 200 is continuation of poorly reserched and executed 202/205 tooling. Regarding what is "obscure" or not, google both Leonardo M-346 and FIAT G.91 before making such deep observations. 1 1
Bruno P Posted January 19 Posted January 19 18 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: New kits from Italeri have '100% New Moulds' label, like Macchi C.200, C.202 or F-35. No 'New Parts' label or 'PE' badge either so this seems to be just ordinary rebox of old Supermodel kit with 'Super Decals'. If this were the case, and I truly believe it will be the case, the bitterness is growing at not having a manufacturer in Italy capable of placing products on the market aligned with current standards. How sad. 1
Dennis_C Posted January 19 Posted January 19 4 hours ago, Overflow said: Regarding what is "obscure" or not, google both Leonardo M-346 and FIAT G.91 before making such deep observations. These are not obscure of course, but definitely quite niche aircraft which is why Italeri while using expensive metal molding might consider them not commercially viable. Regarding FIAT G.91 we had relatively not bad Meng model - simplified at places and I think it was criticised for some shape inaccuracies but honestly I do not see anything super obviously wrong. There was also a good Revell model issued in 2000. Would be nice to see it reissued... However we do miss newer twin-stick version and twin-engine G.91Y. The latter being in fact more obscure. For the M-346 as it is being ordered by more and more customers worldwide I think eventually it gets attention from some kit makers. Hey Arma, IBG, Answer and Co? Panowie, czy chcielibyście wypuścić model Bielika? 1
JWM Posted January 19 Posted January 19 23 hours ago, alt-92 said: They did the same with the 506. Not exactly. I have both boxes of Z 506B and the difference is, believe me, a huge one.... When I saw sprues of Italeri having earlier a Supermodel kit I looked around and found a conversion by Broplan for 506C and bought it to use with Supermodel elements... It was similar with Pipistrello - the molds were much re-worked. Cheers J-W 1
Greg B Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Nothing like a reported thread to round off a Sunday night. As you can guess, this post will be monitored. Any further handbags at dawn will be dealt with. 3
SprueMan Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 7 hours ago, Overflow said: First learn how to communicate politely, than except that there are people that know bit more then you regarding certain topic, and for that reason I have written my post. Iveco Stralis will have new cab, but everything else will be recycled from earlier tools making it half new tool, half not( transmission, suspension, wheels etc..) Fulvia👍 Their F-35 in 48th scale is worst representation of F-35 in mentioned scale, even worse than Trumpeter in 32nd, every ram panel is either made up or totally wrong shape. Canopy in B has totally wrong canopy frame. C although slated for 2024 was replaced by A to gain money from Italian government =" Aeronautica Militare" boxings. Folgore will be a direct copy of their 32nd.kit using all the wrong research and its implementation. Macchi 200 is continuation of poorly reserched and executed 202/205 tooling. Regarding what is "obscure" or not, google both Leonardo M-346 and FIAT G.91 before making such deep observations. You put the M-346 and G.91 (all of which I know, thank you very much) together with the XB-35, 49 which are not common, but prototypes. Even the RA-5C and Piasecki H-21 is not a common aircraft. Your arguments about the release models's accuracy is subjective and it is on topic regarding the releases that Italeri has made. Italeri did make models, that they are not to your liking is another matter. I am happy that Italeri is alive and well and is releasing models. That they are not to my liking is just too bad for me. I am sure others will love their new kits. Edited January 19 by SprueMan 1
Overflow Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Not wishing to sound impolite or arrogant, I just want for Italeri to prosper, and with current way they operate, from of course my highly subjective view, but still based on 30+ years dealing with them, I forsee not so nice future.Rant over. 1
Giorgio N Posted January 19 Posted January 19 6 hours ago, SprueMan said: You put the M-346 and G.91 (all of which I know, thank you very much) together with the XB-35, 49 which are not common, but prototypes. Even the RA-5C and Piasecki H-21 is not a common aircraft. Your arguments about the release models's accuracy is subjective and it is on topic regarding the releases that Italeri has made. Italeri did make models, that they are not to your liking is another matter. I am happy that Italeri is alive and well and is releasing models. That they are not to my liking is just too bad for me. I am sure others will love their new kits. The XB-35 and YB-49 are prototypes but Italeri could issue them whenever they feel right since they have the moulds originally made by AMT/ Ertl. Probably not something they'll do too frequently though 1
Julien Posted January 19 Posted January 19 What are they reboxing from Platz? or did I mis read that? Julien
alt-92 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 That might be referring to the Platz T-33 they did a while ago. 1
Julien Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 minute ago, alt-92 said: 5 minutes ago, Julien said: What are they reboxing from Platz? que?
alt-92 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Just now, Julien said: que? ¡No lo se, es crappy internet! 1
troschi Posted January 20 Posted January 20 6 hours ago, Julien said: What are they reboxing from Platz? or did I mis read that? Julien And Platz releases selected Italeri kits under their “Platz-Italeri” label for their domestic market as Tamiya did this as well earlier. 1
Julien Posted January 20 Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, troschi said: And Platz releases selected Italeri kits under their “Platz-Italeri” label for their domestic market as Tamiya did this as well earlier. Thanks never knew that.
Bozothenutter Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Still waiting on that reissue of the Wessex HAS.3....
Caerbannog Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Hope they correct the issues of the 1-32 M.202 for the 1:48 release (although I am not holding my breath). There is a nit pickers guide on the 1:32 kit here for those who are interested: https://www.hyperscale.com/2023/features/macchic202modellersguidemdt_1.htm In fact it is the only kit they announce that gets my interest and could land in my stash. That said I do not regard their line up as bad. F-35 in 1:48 is surely something you need to have as a company (even if it is not the best option on the kit market). And Grippens in either scale should be wolcomed I think. As every year I still wait for the rebox of the YF-12 in 1:48 (last released in the 1984!? - any info on lost moulds???) or even 1:72 (last released in 2006).
GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 19/01/2025 at 04:19, Overflow said: First learn how to communicate politely, than except that there are people that know bit more then you regarding certain topic, and for that reason I have written my post. Iveco Stralis will have new cab, but everything else will be recycled from earlier tools making it half new tool, half not( transmission, suspension, wheels etc..) Fulvia👍 Their F-35 in 48th scale is worst representation of F-35 in mentioned scale, even worse than Trumpeter in 32nd, every ram panel is either made up or totally wrong shape. Canopy in B has totally wrong canopy frame. C although slated for 2024 was replaced by A to gain money from Italian government =" Aeronautica Militare" boxings. Folgore will be a direct copy of their 32nd.kit using all the wrong research and its implementation. Macchi 200 is continuation of poorly reserched and executed 202/205 tooling. Regarding what is "obscure" or not, google both Leonardo M-346 and FIAT G.91 before making such deep observations. Italeri makes the Macchi MC200 Saetta in 1/48 so the 1/32 kit most probably is not derived from the 1/32 scale MC202/205. Saluti Giampiero
Bobby No Mac Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I can see me collecting Italeri Fulvias just like I'm collecting Tamiya Giulias 2
SprueMan Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 19/01/2025 at 17:57, Giorgio N said: The XB-35 and YB-49 are prototypes but Italeri could issue them whenever they feel right since they have the moulds originally made by AMT/ Ertl. Probably not something they'll do too frequently though True but they were old molds. Like the 1/72 RA-5C by (who was it??) but then, if Italeri does not re-issue them, it is bad. If they re-issue them, it is bad because they are not new molds. And so round we go. 1
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