1:72 Avro Manchester Mk.I/Mk.Ia *FINALLY FINISHED*

[AliGauld]

Stunning work so far Roger.

Whatever you decide regarding the wheel will, I'm sure, look as good.

Your kit, your rules. 

 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

With regard to the wheel diameter, the question was asked and the hive mind has answered! Here is the thread over in WWII aircraft if anyone is interested:

 

With that information to hand I am happy to continue as per my plan, although I may need to modify the tailwheel if I wish it to be accurate,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[TeeELL]

Amendment to my previous - my observation ‘not so wrong then’!  

[Dunny]

9 hours ago, AliGauld said:

Stunning work so far Roger.

Whatever you decide regarding the wheel will, I'm sure, look as good.

Your kit, your rules. 

 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

 

48 minutes ago, TeeELL said:

Amendment to my previous - my observation ‘not so wrong then’!  

Thanks gents - it's all good info which will help the body of knowledge...

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

A bit of an update on the nacelle. I've implemented all the design changes listed earlier, and have also been able to update the rear end to (hopefully) interact better with the kit bulkheads and rear flap bulges. Here's a couple of views:

 

 

 

The sharp-eyed amongst you may also note that I have added the rear radiator flap (radiator still to be added), and carved out the top section which will either be a separate component, or integrated into the wing upper. Getting closer now,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

I've been asked how to use Canvases within Fusion 360, so I thought a quick show 'n tell might be in order. So first of all take your desired image, hopefully with at least one key dimension. I'm going to use the very simple example of the control column. Here's a pic taken when I measured it:

 

 

Next, open a new part and create a sketch. Using this place a construction line and give it your datum dimension:

 

 

Close the sketch, then Insert Canvas, selecting your chosen image. Select the Sketch Plane as the Surface. The image will then sit on top of the sketch:

 

 

You can then move and scale the image so it sits over your datum line - this may take a bit of fiddling, but you will end up with this:

 

 

Once the canvas is scaled and positioned to your satisfaction press OK. You can now create subsequent sketches and features to your heart's content. The visibility of the Canvas can be toggled on/off in the feature tree if you need to refer back to it.

 

And a short time later, the control column modelled with the second pilot's yoke incorporated:

 

 

Hope this helps

 

Roger

 

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by Dunny
Missing step

[bigbadbadge]

Oh wow more splendid sorcery Roger, great work on the nacelle, that is going to look phenomenal  and the tutorial is fantastic, how amazing really.  I will never use this but I enjoyed reading it. 

Great work

Chris

[Dunny]

29 minutes ago, bigbadbadge said:

Oh wow more splendid sorcery Roger, great work on the nacelle, that is going to look phenomenal  and the tutorial is fantastic, how amazing really.  I will never use this but I enjoyed reading it. 

Great work

Chris

Thanks Chris - never say never 

[Rabbit Leader]

100% agree, this is some thread and the ability to also provide tutorial advice adds to the overall beauty of your 3D modelling. Have you thought of a serial / scheme to do once you get past all this ‘head scratching’ work, Roger? 
 

 

[Dunny]

11 minutes ago, Rabbit Leader said:

100% agree, this is some thread and the ability to also provide tutorial advice adds to the overall beauty of your 3D modelling. Have you thought of a serial / scheme to do once you get past all this ‘head scratching’ work, Roger? 
 

 

I have indeed Dave:

 

 

The wavy demarcation was too much to resist. If this project makes it outside these 4 walls I shall add a later Mk.Ia scheme with the stencil markings. Happy to accept suggestions...

[DFC]

Re Lancaster wheels, please see the attached (source unknown but on my PC for 4 or 5 years:

 

Airplane MAIN TIRE Ave. 
O.D.
Ave. 
Sect.
Load 
Lbs.
Press. 
Psi.
Rim 
Dia/Wd
AUXILIARY 
Tire
Ave. 
O.D.
Ave. 
Sect.
Load 
Lbs.
Press. 
P.S.I.
Rim 
Dia/Wd
Note: Quotation marks around the name 
of the aircraft manufacturer's name 
indicate a corporate name change has 
occurred.

Avro Lancaster 64X22.50-26 63.75” 22.4” 38500 70 26 / 16.25 12.50-10 29.9” 12.05” 6100 50 10-Oc

 

No info for Manchester.

DFC

[TeeELL]

Roger,

   thanks for the tutorial, you make it straightforward and I shall have a go a bit later, really appreciate that.  Why have I made such a meal of it in the past?  

[Dunny]

1 hour ago, TeeELL said:

Roger,

   thanks for the tutorial, you make it straightforward and I shall have a go a bit later, really appreciate that.  Why have I made such a meal of it in the past?  

Easy when you know how Tony...

[AliGauld]

In less enlightened times you would have ended up being weighed against a duck whether you had turned somebody into a newt or not. 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Quiet Mike]

Thanks for sharing Roger, I find this fascinating. As one of my roles at work is 3D modelling, mainly 'arch-viz', (or Architectural visualisations in English) I really need to make the leap into 3D printing.

 

[davidl]

Thanks for the tutorial -walk-through Roger

Much appreciated

Are you using a free version of Fusion360 or do you need the bells and whistles of the paid/subscription version

I believe you also need another program to print called a slicer ?

At some appropriate stage could you please do another short walk-through on using a slicer in  3-D work as well ?

Thanks again

David from Qld

[Dunny]

9 hours ago, AliGauld said:

In less enlightened times you would have ended up being weighed against a duck whether you had turned somebody into a newt or not. 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

Perhaps I should 3D print a miniature ducking stool - I feel a diorama coming on 🤣

8 hours ago, Quiet Mike said:

Thanks for sharing Roger, I find this fascinating. As one of my roles at work is 3D modelling, mainly 'arch-viz', (or Architectural visualisations in English) I really need to make the leap into 3D printing.

 

Thanks Mike - I have no doubt in that case that you have the skillset to drive Fusion or similar, and printing is an easy extension of that. Plenty of places where you can pay to get your parts printed if you do not wish to make the immediate commitment to owning a printer.

1 hour ago, davidl said:

Thanks for the tutorial -walk-through Roger

Much appreciated

Are you using a free version of Fusion360 or do you need the bells and whistles of the paid/subscription version

I believe you also need another program to print called a slicer ?

At some appropriate stage could you please do another short walk-through on using a slicer in  3-D work as well ?

Thanks again

David from Qld

David - the 'free' Fusion 360 will be fine for most. It does have some restrictions on the number of files you can work on at one time (10), but it gives the ability to output STL files, which are the format required by 3D printers. I would definitely recommend cutting your teeth on the free version, then judging if it works for you. For slicing software I use the free version of Chitubox, which seems fine for all my needs (I am running an Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra printer using water washable resin). I'll set up another test print tomorrow and will do another 'step-by-step', if this would be helpful.

[Dunny]

13 hours ago, DFC said:

Re Lancaster wheels, please see the attached (source unknown but on my PC for 4 or 5 years:

 

Airplane MAIN TIRE Ave. 
O.D.
Ave. 
Sect.
Load 
Lbs.
Press. 
Psi.
Rim 
Dia/Wd
AUXILIARY 
Tire
Ave. 
O.D.
Ave. 
Sect.
Load 
Lbs.
Press. 
P.S.I.
Rim 
Dia/Wd
Note: Quotation marks around the name 
of the aircraft manufacturer's name 
indicate a corporate name change has 
occurred.

Avro Lancaster 64X22.50-26 63.75” 22.4” 38500 70 26 / 16.25 12.50-10 29.9” 12.05” 6100 50 10-Oc

 

No info for Manchester.

DFC

Thanks very much DFC!

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

I've been grappling a bit (a lot) with how to best model the ribbing on the central fin, so for a bit of light relief I thought I'd knock together the Mk.IXa bombsight. Here's a refresher of the original:

 

 

And here's my 1:72 rendering:

 

 

It's a whole 7mm long, so we shall see how well it prints out - a definite candidate for the carpet monster, I should say!

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

Edited November 28, 2024 by Dunny
Ribbing

[bigbadbadge]

3 hours ago, Dunny said:

so for a bit of light relief

Love it Roger, a bit of light relief.  Looks very good by the way.

More excellent work fella

Chris

[AliGauld]

Light Relief indeed.

Looks flaming complicated to me. 

 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[TeeELL]

I run a Elegoo Mars 2 Pro and I am regularly surprised at what it is capable of printing!  I cannot afford/justify running anything other than the free version of Fusion 360 and the limit of 10 active drawings is no issue - as soon as I’ve created the ‘print file’ I save and make the drawing ‘Read only’.  I must have 200+ drawings.  I am working up to setting up my Mars 4 and installing the Chitubox for that, hoping that it won’t over write the version for my Mars 2.

Sorry, this is mostly thread drift!

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

After much grunting and sweating, I've finally got the central fin in a state that I'm reasonably happy with:

 

 

The rib detail might appear a little sharp, but it looks okay when sliced, so I'm going to live with it (a quick rub with a sanding stick would see it all but disappear anyway). I'm also thinking about a drilling jig to postion the required mating holes correctly on the upper fuselage. Next I'm going to work on the vertical stabiliser/rudders - that should be a breeze compared to this! I'll also set up for a test print tomorrow, so might add a little detail on that,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

Edited November 28, 2024 by Dunny
Jig

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

You will have to forgive me for this whimsy, but I couldn't resist doing this to see if it would print out:

 

 

Now I know that the tyres were made by Dunlop. They may not have had the branding moulded on them, but seeing as my name is indeed R Dunlop I couldn't resist - again, easily eliminated with the swipe of a sanding stick! It also neatly circumnavigates any copyright issues,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

As predicted, the vertical stabiliser was much more straight forward than the ribbed central fin:

 

 

I've duplicated the detail from the kit in terms of the trim tab actuator and circular panel detail. Next up will be the horizontal stabiliser & elevator combination - this is fun!

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger