H.M.S. Agamemnon

[Harrysgrandad]

Hi Jon

What gauge line did you use for the funnel stays?
Graham

[Faraway]

18 hours ago, Harrysgrandad said:

Hi Jon

What gauge line did you use for the funnel stays?
Graham

I'll probably use a finer one, 70 denier/0.091mm for some of the other rigging and white thread for some of the signal halyards.

Jon

[robgizlu]

Nice work on the stays - it's coming alive 

Rob

[Faraway]

Funnel gratings fitted.

 

And then I thought I'd tackle the aft balcony (I presume that's what it's called ?) 

It's far from perfect, but views without closeup, it's passable. Bending the lattice railing was a test, due to the actual shape, wouldn't want to to do that again, anytime soon.

[Tegethoff]

Looks good can I ask if you have filled the portholes with something? Looks like they have windows

[Harrysgrandad]

Just now, Tegethoff said:

Looks good can I ask if you have filled the portholes with something? Looks like they have windows

Just what I was thinking🤔

[Faraway]

31 minutes ago, Tegethoff said:

Looks good can I ask if you have filled the portholes with something? Looks like they have windows

 

30 minutes ago, Harrysgrandad said:

Just what I was thinking🤔

Ammo MIG Acrylic Crystal.

I drilled out the scuttles and after painting the hull, but before fitting the deck, I dipped a cocktail stick in the above and poked it into the hole from behind. You can do it from the front, but more care is needed as the glaze dries very glossy.

Jon

[Tegethoff]

6 minutes ago, Faraway said:

 

Ammo MIG Acrylic Crystal.

I drilled out the scuttles and after painting the hull, but before fitting the deck, I dipped a cocktail stick in the above and poked it into the hole from behind. You can do it from the front, but more care is needed as the glaze dries very glossy.

Jon

brb will be frantically googling "how to unstick a deck" 😂. Thanks for the explainer - it looks superb.  

[ArnoldAmbrose]

3 hours ago, Faraway said:

the aft balcony (I presume that's what it's called ?) 

The Captain's walk?       It looks very good. Regards, Jeff.

[Ex-FAAWAFU]

Admiral’s stern walk, is what it was called

[steve5]

coming along nicely , the stern reminds me of the mikasa . can't wait to see the rest .

[Faraway]

Earlier on in this WIP, there are some photos of the rigging on this ship.

Also these photos show that there were 'cage' aerials stretching between the masts and from mast to bow or stern. Now, I've done a couple of cage aerials on a previous build, the Airfix 1/72 RAF Rescue launch, these I made with the usual thread stuck to rings I'd made from punching them out of plastic card.

I haven't got a punch smaller enough to make rings here, so I wandered about online and found, on the Starling Models site, WEM 1/350 Dreadnought Aerial Spreaders.

As you can see, they aren't very big.

But there is a slightly larger (?) problem. A

Although they all, in this photo, look like they ALL have holes at the end of the legs, this is NOT the case.

So they are not all usable, that said there are probably enough for this build.

BUT, I have no idea how to hold them and thread each hole, and then repeat this four three or four per aerial.

So, as it stands at the moment, I doubt very much I'll be adding 'cage' aerials to Agamemnon, I try to be accurate with my builds, but this could be a step too far.

Jon

[beefy66]

3 hours ago, Faraway said:

As you can see, they aren't very big.

But there is a slightly larger (?) problem. A

Although they all, in this photo, look like they ALL have holes at the end of the legs, this is NOT the case.

So they are not all usable, that said there are probably enough for this build.

BUT, I have no idea how to hold them and thread each hole, and then repeat this four three or four per aerial.

So, as it stands at the moment, I doubt very much I'll be adding 'cage' aerials to Agamemnon, I try to be accurate with my builds, but this could be a step too far.

Jon

 

Jon I had to drill or poke a sewing pin through to enlarge the holes

 

To hold in place I used a strip of Bluetak and threaded thin fuse wire along a long and painful way to do it I know.

 

 

Stay Safe

 

beefy

[Faraway]

1 hour ago, beefy66 said:

Jon I had to drill or poke a sewing pin through to enlarge the holes

 

To hold in place I used a strip of Bluetak and threaded thin fuse wire along a long and painful way to do it I know.

I’ll try both those methods.

I did try an acupuncture needle, but it didn’t seem to work. I looked at the ‘hole’ through my jewellers loupe and it seemed that some have no hole at all. I will look closer.

Sorry I couldn’t get to at Telford, but I thought I’d better not bring you all this cold, we will meet one day.

Jon

[neilh]

Sorry you missed it Jon, wondered where you might have been. There was a gorgeous Agamemnon in the competition. Hopefully someone took a pic of it.

[Faraway]

One or two boats.

Just how many boats does one ship need ?

There is four more to add to the stern !

Jon

[robgizlu]

13 hours ago, neilh said:

Sorry you missed it Jon, wondered where you might have been. There was a gorgeous Agamemnon in the competition. Hopefully someone took a pic of it.

Hi Neil - sorry I failed to reach you and say hello,  Hope you enjoyed the show  - agree with you about the Agamemnon - ?1/200 scale.  Sadly not well  lit - there is a photo on FB - The torpedo nets on the ?port side were masterful.

 

17 minutes ago, Faraway said:

One or two boats.

Just how many boats does one ship need ?

There is four more to add to the stern !

Jon

 

Boat-tastic - looking very fine

Rob

[Ngantek]

My entirely model-addled brain remembers it as Mikasa with the lovely torpedo net mostly hidden against the wall. Too may models!

threading those cage aerials looks horrific. I don't know how you guys do it. The build is coming along really nicely Jon. Sorry you couldn't make it to Telford!

 

Andy



 

[robgizlu]

4 minutes ago, Ngantek said:

My entirely model-addled brain remembers it as Mikasa with the lovely torpedo net mostly hidden against the wall. Too may models!

threading those cage aerials looks horrific. I don't know how you guys do it. The build is coming along really nicely Jon. Sorry you couldn't make it to Telford!

 

Andy



 

Andy - you're right it was Mikasa !!!!

Soz

Rob

[Faraway]

5 minutes ago, Ngantek said:

threading those cage aerials looks horrific. I don't know how you guys do it.

I’m doubting that I will attempt them, might be too much fiddle.

Jon

[robgizlu]

 

 

1 minute ago, Faraway said:

I’m doubting that I will attempt them, might be too much fiddle.

Jon

Jon that's not the Bulldog spirit!!

Rob

[beefy66]

Just now, robgizlu said:

Andy - you're right it was Mikasa !!!!

Soz

Rob

 

Seen that model a couple of times now at the Scottish shows amazing work he has done with it.

 

This is coming along Great Jon lots of boats and that cold does not seem to have slowed you down.

 

Stay safe and warm

 

beefy

[Faraway]

12 minutes ago, robgizlu said:

 

 

Jon that's not the Bulldog spirit!!

Rob

Maybe not, but I sort of value what little sanity AND eyesight I have left 😉

Jon

12 minutes ago, beefy66 said:

 

Seen that model a couple of times now at the Scottish shows amazing work he has done with it.

 

This is coming along Great Jon lots of boats and that cold does not seem to have slowed you down.

 

Stay safe and warm

 

beefy

Cold much improved, good wine and vitamin D works wonders.

Jon

[Micha_Pol]

11 hours ago, Faraway said:

One or two boats.

Just how many boats does one ship need ?

There is four more to add to the stern !

Jon

This looks very nice indeed. How many boats - well, all of them obviously😆

[mdesaxe]

10 hours ago, Ngantek said:

threading those cage aerials looks horrific. I don't know how you guys do it. The build is coming along really nicely Jon. Sorry you couldn't make it to Telford!

I have made cage aerials using those White Ensign spreaders by a rather backwards method.

 

I make a jig that is longer than the finished aerial from a flat piece of wood with a piece of plastic sheet set vertically on each end. The plastic pieces each have a hole drilled through that is the diameter of the finished assembly. I then thread fine copper wire through all the spreaders holes, pass the ends through the two holes, and fasten them around the circumference with tape after stretching them tight. I then spread out the spreaders along the wires at the correct intervals and glue them in position with tiny drops of superglue. Once everything is set, I use more wire to 'tie' the ends at the correct distance from the final spreaders and seal the tie with more superglue. Finally, I cut off the excess wires beyond the tie with a very sharp blade to leave only the single wires going to the terminal points on the masts or yards. The only problem is that I have to replace any plastic spars with brass because the cage aerials need to be under a little tension to 'set' properly.

 

Maurice