Why are thread pictures not showing

[Mike]

13 minutes ago, Dave Swindell said:

I use that all the time Pete,

I'm not specifically trying to post via onedrive, I'm trying to work out why I can't see images on my laptop, and work out whether it's due to my laptop setup, the method that the images are being posted, or a combination of both...

Have you tried clearing your cache, and rebooting your laptop and router?  A scrambled cache can sometimes do this.

[PeteH1969]

34 minutes ago, Dave Swindell said:

I use that all the time Pete,

I'm not specifically trying to post via onedrive, I'm trying to work out why I can't see images on my laptop, and work out whether it's due to my laptop setup, the method that the images are being posted, or a combination of both...

 

24 minutes ago, Alex Gordon said:

I generally use one of several photo hosts so that I don't suffer a repeat of the Photobucket game and Onedrive is a backup store of everything,if I have cause to replace permanently failed links in a post they can come from there.It also gets around any quantity limits on free hosting.

Tightwad?

Moi?

Thank you both.

 

Dave if you use postimages and the same problem occurs then it not an obvious thing that is causing the general problem and a deeper dive is needed into the cause.

 

Mike

I understand what you are saying but we should not have to do that to post or view images on the site the other sites don't have these problems.

It's a problem with the site rather than the image hostings that are causing the problem and it may be a case of KISS is needed when posting images so all can view all images rather than just a few can view everything as members will leave if they cannot view the images and info the images hold as there will be no point to the site.

 

Pete

 

 

[Mike]

10 minutes ago, PeteH1969 said:

Mike

I understand what you are saying but we should not have to do that to post or view images on the site the other sites don't have these problems.

That's not at all the case.  If your laptop's browser cache has become corrupt, no amount of "work" on our side will sort things out because we're not magicians, and for you to refuse to do that because "you shouldn't have to" is akin to burying your head in the sand, when 99.999999999999% of photos that are posted and viewed on the site are just fine, but ONE of yours is not, and other people can see the pics.  To assume that it can't be your end won't serve you well going forward.  We're not telling you that it IS your end, just that it might be, and you should clear your cache and reboot your devices as a precaution, as it has worked for other members many times in the past.  Your device doesn't have an ego, and won't be upset if it was the cause of the problem

 

EDIT: Caches eventually expire, so one day any errant data will go away of its own accord.

[PeteH1969]

Mike

 

I agree with you on this and having spent a decade in industrial IT and system design as well as several decades in mechanical design I know that sites and the way the sites should be tested repeatedly so that the problem can be 100% ruled out from the site being the cause, it cold be the site is fine but a setting on the host has been changed and they have not properly tested what they have done and that's causing it, but to say that the users cache is a possible problem cause without ruling out a site problem is not fair.

 

We are the end user and we all should work together to sort out any problems but we can only do so much and it comes down to the site admin to delve deeper into any incompatibility issues.

 

I have sympathy for you and the others on the admin team we all do this as a hobby and life gets in the way and it will get sorted in time.

 

Pete   

[Mike]

1 minute ago, PeteH1969 said:

but to say that the users cache is a possible problem cause without ruling out a site problem is not fair.

Not fair? It's an issue that seems to be only affecting you.  it's not about being fair, it's about practicality and logical fault finding practices, starting with the simplest of things.  Clearing your caches and rebooting one, maybe two devices takes seconds of your time.  You've spent more time arguing the toss with me that would have been better spent just trying what I suggested, especially as I've seen many members with similar problems fix their issue with a reboot.  That's why it's a meme.  Because it often works.

 

I've been "managing" the site for seventeen or so years, so the only person changing settings is me, and I don't do that lightly, as it's working (apart from the mystery 500 errors that Support can't fix), so I leave things as is.  It's also ONE photo, so I'm pretty sure it's not the server picking on your picture specifically, based on past experience.  If you won't take a few seconds to clear your cache and so forth, I don't really see why I should spend my time trying to help you when you won't rule out the most likely (IMHO) and simplest of possibilities.  There's a possibility that I could be wrong, but I've more important and interesting things to do than try to help someone that won't help themselves.   Come back to me when you've cleared your cache and rebooted things.

[PeteH1969]

Mike

 

That was the first thing I did and the cache is cleared every day and full scan the pc for all problems/virus.

I know that it is not my pc.

 

And it's not just me with this problem as the posting show.

 

Pete

[Mike]

21 minutes ago, PeteH1969 said:

That was the first thing I did and the cache is cleared every day and full scan the pc for all problems/virus.

I know that it is not my pc.

I've read through the whole thread, and at no point did you mention that you had already cleared your cache until now, three pages in, despite me asking you to clear your cache several times in previous posts.  As you're in IT, I'd have thought it was common knowledge that people need full, accurate information in order to help. Why keep that to yourself until now?

 

OneDrive and the rest of the cloud hosting services don't have a good track record of being reliable hosts for photos on forums, as I said a page ago:

 

On 30/09/2024 at 11:32, Mike said:

Some photo host have persistency problems too.  Google's offering (can't remember the name right now) doesn't retain the URLs for very long, as it's not really a photo hosting platform, and that's similarly the case with other Cloud services, so watch out for that.

 

That's clearly not our problem, and it's a well known issue that has come up again and again with different Cloud hosts, so it's unfair of you to blame us.  We can't stop people from posting from unsuitable photo hosts, and blaming us for their inconsistency of delivery won't help either.  Ellis is going to be asked to post smaller images both in terms of pixels and Kb too, as 2.9mb is still gigantic in internet terms, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's hitting some kind of file size limit with some people's devices, and if not, it probably should, especially if they're on metered data.  It could also be hitting some kind of bandwidth limit at the account holder's end.  We don't know, and can't possibly find out.

[echen]

@PeteH1969 As requested here is the missing pic in

 

 

Hope this helps.

I started using postimage when OneDrive was giving me grief. I reverted to OneDrive once it was fixed and stopped using postimage because some pics I posted from there disappeared and I had to repost them from OneDrive.

 

[klr]

I've been seeing the same problem for some time. One sample thread:

 

All affected images are hosted on "village.photos", and show as a "resized ..." link. They can be viewed only by opening the link in a separate tab.

[psdavidson]

Village Photos does not have a valid security certificate and is therefore classed as insecure (http instead of https)

If you know what you are doing and are willing to accept the risk, you can adjust the browser site settings to allow the content to be dispayed

[keefr22]

I've not been able to view images posted from onedrive for possibly a couple of months now, repeatedly getting the message 'This item won't load right now', when right clicking them in an attempt to look at them.

 

I'm using a chromebook, cache has been cleared (more than once since the problem started) and the device is restarted regularly (often daily).

 

I must admit that after many years troubleshooting IT problems in a large government installation before retirement, I can no longer be bothered to do much more than that so unfortunately if I open a thread with such images I just skip it and move to another - it's not as if there's a shortage of good stuff on BM to view.....

 

Keith