1/144 New Tool BAC 1-11 500 by Mark 1 Models

[UC880]

Noticed in the Mark 1 Models website news section that a new tool BAC 1-11 series 500 is expected in September 2024, in a variety of schemes.

 

https://www.4pluspublications.com/model-kits/news-in-preparation/

Edited August 2 by UC880
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[VMA131Marine]

Very cool. I have not been able to get one of the Eastern Express kits so I look forward to this.

[Homebee]

Will be a new tool model, a long fuselage variant of the BAC One-Eleven jet airliner.

 

- ref. MKM144112 - BAC 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ British Midland, Jersey European, Shannon

 

 

- ref. MKM144113 - BAC/Rombac 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ London European, Bavaria Germanair, JAT

 

 

- ref. MKM144114 - BAC 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ Dan-Air, Nationwide, Trans Brasil

 

 

V.P.

Edited August 5 by Homebee

[Middo]

5 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:

Very cool. I have not been able to get one of the Eastern Express kits so I look forward to this.

Weren't the EE kits the shorter 200 series? I don't think there has been a 500 injection kit in 1/144 before. Certainly Welsh Models has a range in vac/resin with metal parts.

Edited August 3 by Middo

[RichG]

Ah... I'm predicting Halcyon Days ahead for my workbench...🙂

 

 

 

 

[general melchett]

Very welcome news. Fond memories of flying on three of the four pastel Court one-elevens in the early seventies as well as seeing them regularly at nearby Luton airport. Look forward to seeing what Mark 1 do with it. 

[26Decals]

Fantastic news and lots of livery choices

Judging by the kit decal choices it will hopefully include hushkitted and non hushkitted engines

 

Edited August 3 by 26Decals

[VMA131Marine]

21 hours ago, Middo said:

Weren't the EE kits the shorter 200 series? I don't think there has been a 500 injection kit in 1/144 before. Certainly Welsh Models has a range in vac/resin with metal parts.

I believe you are right. I saw that two-six models  reboxed the Eastern Express -200 kit and also had boxings of the -500 series. I didn’t realise that the -500s were full resin kits and not based on the EE parts.

[Skodadriver]

I'd like to think this is good news. I built Mark 1's HS-748 last year and I'm just finishing their Twin Otter. Both are decent enough although I have the impression that the Budgie is a bit over-scale particularly the fuselage diameter. I haven't checked the actual measurements and I stress that's just based on comparing it to the older Welsh Models kit.

 

The lack of an injection moulded 1-11-500 has been a big gap in the 1/144 airliner kit market and I hope Mark 1 get it right. If they do I'll be after several - B-Cal and BA Landor are top of my list. They don't appear to be among the kit decal options so hopefully Ray will step up.

 

Dave G

[zebra]

1 hour ago, Skodadriver said:

B-Cal and BA Landor are top of my list. They don't appear to be among the kit decal options so hopefully Ray will step up.

I'll need both of these too please Ray @26Decals!

[26Decals]

I have both already in stock

[Skodadriver]

1 hour ago, 26Decals said:

I have both already in stock

I know, I have both sheets and they are superb as always. However it remains to be seen if they will fit the Mark 1 kit given my reservations about the dimensions of the Budgie.

 

I should have said that if my experience of Mark 1's own Scottish European decals in the Budgie kit is anything to go by there will be a big demand for after-market sheets for the 1-11. They were beautifully printed and a good fit but so fragile they were virtually unusable.

[Roger Holden]

On 03/08/2024 at 11:07, 26Decals said:

Fantastic news and lots of livery choices

 

Cyprus Airways and Bahamas Airways delivery schemes please !

[Branky]

Both Hushkitted en non hushkitted enguines are supplied  For parts overview

see; www.aviationmegastore.com/205746

 

[26Decals]

The nose looks a bit weird in the pics.

[Homebee]

Released

- ref. MKM144112 - BAC 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ British Midland, Jersey European, Shannon

https://www.4pluspublications.com/en/produkt/mkm144112-bac-1-11-500-super-one-eleven-british-midland-jersey-european-shannon/

- ref. MKM144113 - BAC/Rombac 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ London European, Bavaria Germanair, JAT

https://www.4pluspublications.com/en/produkt/mkm144113-bac-rombac-1-11-500-super-one-eleven-london-european-bavaria-germanair-jat/

- ref. MKM144114 - BAC 1-11-500 ‘Super One-Eleven’ Dan-Air, Nationwide, Trans Brasil

https://www.4pluspublications.com/en/produkt/mkm144114-bac-1-11-500-super-one-eleven-dan-air-nationwide-trans-brasil/

 

Sprues

 

 

 

 

V.P.

[MarkoZG]

To be honest, my expectations from this kit were much higher than what can be seen in these photos.

The old Airfix kit still holds two major advantages over this one: first in having clear parts for side windows 

and windshield for which I think always look a lot better and more realistic than decals and second more true-to-scale 

surface, since the panel lines seen here are grossly overdone for 1/144. It would be even better not to have any than 

to have it like here.

Smaller parts are the only step forward from this kit.

[Eric B.]

On 8/3/2024 at 10:23 AM, RichG said:

Ah... I'm predicting Halcyon Days ahead for my workbench...🙂

 

 

 

 

 

I am not far behind, 

 

I might well try a LIAT aircraft. I flew with them between Guadeloupe (FWI) and Barbados (WI) back in 1972.

 

 

I never knew what the connections could be between LIAT and COURT. Were the aircraft just leased ? I am wondering as some other LIAT aircraft were painted in the same COURT corporate colours. 

 

 

Eric B.

Edited September 19 by Eric B.

[Dave Swindell]

16 hours ago, MarkoZG said:

The old Airfix kit still holds two major advantages over this one:

1 - The Airfix kit is an early 200 not a 500, so +1 to Mark1 if you want a 500

2 - The kit provides standard and hush kitted engines, another +1 to Mark1

3 - Mark1 haven't provided clear windscreen and cabin windows in their other 1/144 kits, so why suddenly expect them to change?  I would also have preferred these, but most airliner modellers go for decal windows and this is a cheaper tooling option - if this means having an IM kit at a resonable price vs not having it I'll go for having it every time

4 - The Airfix kit has fine raised surface detail, the Mark1 kit has fine engraved surface detail, neither is accurate to scale and both are of their time. No kit manufacturer does accurate 1/144 panel detail as it wouldn't be visible or practical to mould. It's a compromise that all kit manufacturers make and critising Mark1 for this isn't constructive.

5 - Smaller details are much better moulded on the Mark1 kit compared to the Airfix kit

In summary I'd say a 4-1 victory for Mark1 over the Airfix kit, and that's before you start looking at kit decals and options - Mark1 offering a significantly greater choice in liveries here.

[Jabba]

3 hours ago, Dave Swindell said:

1 - The Airfix kit is an early 200 not a 500, so +1 to Mark1 if you want a 500

2 - The kit provides standard and hush kitted engines, another +1 to Mark1

3 - Mark1 haven't provided clear windscreen and cabin windows in their other 1/144 kits, so why suddenly expect them to change?  I would also have preferred these, but most airliner modellers go for decal windows and this is a cheaper tooling option - if this means having an IM kit at a resonable price vs not having it I'll go for having it every time

4 - The Airfix kit has fine raised surface detail, the Mark1 kit has fine engraved surface detail, neither is accurate to scale and both are of their time. No kit manufacturer does accurate 1/144 panel detail as it wouldn't be visible or practical to mould. It's a compromise that all kit manufacturers make and critising Mark1 for this isn't constructive.

5 - Smaller details are much better moulded on the Mark1 kit compared to the Airfix kit

In summary I'd say a 4-1 victory for Mark1 over the Airfix kit, and that's before you start looking at kit decals and options - Mark1 offering a significantly greater choice in liveries here.

 

Also If I remember properly the nose on the Airfix kit is for a prototype (a bit on the blunt side) and when I made one I had to get a conversion nose to correct this.

[Dave Swindell]

12 minutes ago, Jabba said:

Also If I remember properly the nose on the Airfix kit is for a prototype (a bit on the blunt side) and when I made one I had to get a conversion nose to correct this.

The nose is correct for an early production machine without radar, they had a short rounded nosecone. Most aircraft had the later longer pointy nose which contained radar from new, the earlier ones were retrofitted.

[26Decals]

Now showing as in stock at Hannants

 

[Dave Swindell]

3 minutes ago, 26Decals said:

Now showing as in stock at Hannants

Stock level reduced by 1 of each boxing 🙂

 

[halcyonjet]

On 24/09/2024 at 18:10, Dave Swindell said:

Stock level reduced by 1 of each boxing 🙂

 

Make that 2 each now ☺️ 

 

Dave Nicholls

[Skodadriver]

Got my British Midland kit today.

 

It looks pretty good in the box although I'm a tiny bit doubtful about the nose shape. Even if it is slightly off it's nothing that Milliput and sanding won't fix.

 

Some of the small parts including the wing fences are a bit chunky (that was also an issue with the Budgie) but any competent modeller should be able to refine or replace these.  On the plus side it's good to see the neatly moulded nozzles for the hush-kitted engines and small details like the apu exhaust and the external fuel duct which Mark 1 have captured beautifully.

 

I'm tied up with a couple of GBs at the moment but I'm really looking forward to starting the 1-11 when I can. The only question is BA Landor or B-Cal .... ?

 

Dave G