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New AIM-174, can we modify an AGM-78 to its shape?


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In theory we can, the RIM-174 afterall is a development of the original Standard missile series (itself a development of the Terrier/Tartar SAMs) and retains the 13.5" diameter tube.

There are however a number of differences that may make the conversion a bit troublesome. I'd have to check the differences with the RIM-161, that features the same type of wings. Fine Molds have a RIM-161 in 1/72, it should be a better starting point

Personally I'll wait for some enterprising company to issue one when it becomes operational  (thinking of Reskit for example)

 

On the real thing, I'm glad to see an AA development of the modern Standard missiles. These have some impressive performance and considering that some potential enemies are fielding AAMs with quite a long range, such a missile may be very useful

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The XAIM-174B is a version of the SM-6 to be carried by fighters compared to the tranditional ground or ship launch for the SM-6. Otherwise exactly the same from what I've read up on during the week. 

Interesting they have for now still the "X" in XAIM-174B? This would indicate that testing isn't completed yet ;)

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So, what do y'all say for a max weps load A2A on the Super Bug, 2 '9X, 2x '174s and 6x'120s (outer pylons with paired 120s and 1 each at intakes points)?

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On 7/7/2024 at 2:09 AM, Robertone139 said:

So, what do y'all say for a max weps load A2A on the Super Bug, 2 '9X, 2x '174s and 6x'120s (outer pylons with paired 120s and 1 each at intakes points)?

The super can only carry a single 120 on the outboards(2/10) and they carry the Dual 120's on the midboards (3/9). assuming the live AIM-174 will be able to be carried on the inboards(4/8) and midboards (3/9) as seen in the public images circulating and assuming you can carry them side by side with appropriate clearance I would assume a 9X on the tip, 120 out board and -174 on the midboard and inboard would be concievable with 120's on the hips (4/6). Also having not researched I expect the AIM-174 is probably too heavy to carry on the outboard stations(2/10) so I am working with that assumption however 6 of them on a single jet would look pretty tough!

 

Looking at the image of the underside with the AIM-174 carried inboard I doubt you'll fit the dual 120's if a 147 is carried on the inboard so realistically 2x AIM-9X, 4x AIM-120 4x AIM-174 and 1x centreline Tank seems like a max Air to Air loadout

 

It would make an impressive model so looking forward to seeing what builds people come out with in the coming months/years

 

Cheers

Cairnsy

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6 hours ago, Cairnsy said:

The super can only carry a single 120 on the outboards(2/10) and they carry the Dual 120's on the midboards (3/9). assuming the live AIM-174 will be able to be carried on the inboards(4/8) and midboards (3/9) as seen in the public images circulating and assuming you can carry them side by side with appropriate clearance I would assume a 9X on the tip, 120 out board and -174 on the midboard and inboard would be concievable with 120's on the hips (4/6). Also having not researched I expect the AIM-174 is probably too heavy to carry on the outboard stations(2/10) so I am working with that assumption however 6 of them on a single jet would look pretty tough!

 

Looking at the image of the underside with the AIM-174 carried inboard I doubt you'll fit the dual 120's if a 147 is carried on the inboard so realistically 2x AIM-9X, 4x AIM-120 4x AIM-174 and 1x centreline Tank seems like a max Air to Air loadout

 

It would make an impressive model so looking forward to seeing what builds people come out with in the coming months/years

 

Cheers

Cairnsy

I never mentioned 4x174s, as at 1800/1900 lbs each they would bring the weight of the carry back probably close to max (9000 lbs, cited somewhere else)with any other weapon on board.

So likely 9Xs on the tips, 174s on the inboards and single 120s on the waist and 2,3,9 and 10.

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On 7/6/2024 at 5:06 PM, Robertone139 said:

Did not work

 

An Iraqi Mig-23 kill was claimed with the Hawk fired from an F-14, or so they say

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Just to circle back to this topic Richard over at flightline resin is about to release these missiles in 1-72, 1-48 & 1-32 so hopefully that helps some people out with their chosen builds. 
 

Also some good images starting to emerge of the Black VX-9 jet with 4 of these onboard with a full suite of -9X , -120,  IRST and ATFLIR and it looks TOUGH!!!

 

might have to add yet another Meng F model to the stable

 

 

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What I found was that the AGM-78 is 15 feet long and the AIM-174B is 21.5 feet long. In 1/72, the Fine Molds SM-3 body fits the bill nicely. Don't know about 1/48 or 1/32, though.

 

Tom

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   Richard over at FLIGHTLINE  resin is about to release these missiles in 1-72, 1-48 & 1-32 so hopefully that helps some people out with their chosen builds.  SO when will 1/48 scale kits be release and do the website address for FLIGHTLINE RESIN 

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41 minutes ago, TEXKEN said:

   Richard over at FLIGHTLINE  resin is about to release these missiles in 1-72, 1-48 & 1-32 so hopefully that helps some people out with their chosen builds.  SO when will 1/48 scale kits be release and do the website address for FLIGHTLINE RESIN 

 

I wasn't aware of this line but have to say they have some very interesting stuff. I see the AIM-174s already have a price and 1/72 and 1/32 sets seem to be available here

https://phasehangarresin.com/collections/flight-line-resin?page=1

 

Pity that they only have the SRAMs in 1/48 scale, I would have been interested in a 1/72 set for my FB-111

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