RN WW2 1/350 kit recommendations (dismissals)

[Redstaff]

Thanks for the replies gents, much appreciated 👍 

@foeth where can I find out what the boat layout was as I intend to build it in the later configuration 

Many thanks again

Ian 😀 

[foeth]

Haven't made a definitive list yet (on the to-do list) but from the repair after the Denmark Straight battle I have these notes:

 

Missing (presumed destroyed), 1x45 ft FMB, 1x 27 ft Whaler. Damaged beyond repair: 2x 25 ft FMB. Damaged: 1x45 ft FMB, 1x 25 ft FMB, 1x 30 ft Motor Cutter, 1x 27 ft Whaler, 1x 45 ft Motor Launch (light type) and 2x 14 ft Dinghies.

 

After the battle there's a standard 35ft fast motor boat on the far left side on the boat deck (might be the replacement for the destroyed 45 ft fast motor boat); one of those is still on pics when she is camouflaged so she still carried at least one 45ft version.

[Redstaff]

55 minutes ago, foeth said:

Haven't made a definitive list yet (on the to-do list) but from the repair after the Denmark Straight battle I have these notes:

 

Missing (presumed destroyed), 1x45 ft FMB, 1x 27 ft Whaler. Damaged beyond repair: 2x 25 ft FMB. Damaged: 1x45 ft FMB, 1x 25 ft FMB, 1x 30 ft Motor Cutter, 1x 27 ft Whaler, 1x 45 ft Motor Launch (light type) and 2x 14 ft Dinghies.

 

After the battle there's a standard 35ft fast motor boat on the far left side on the boat deck (might be the replacement for the destroyed 45 ft fast motor boat); one of those is still on pics when she is camouflaged so she still carried at least one 45ft version.

Thanks 😀 

Think the boats will be a later addition. I'm going to see how they look with the PE, but there are some very nice printed ones out there as well 🤔

[k7rkx]

19 hours ago, Redstaff said:

8 off twin 5.25 turrets, thinking of going with barrel set and eduard PE rather than 3D as finished builds with kit parts look ok

2 pounder pom poms, I think I'm going down 3D printed route and I think I need 5 off 8 barrel and 1 off 4 barrel for rear turret?

Does every pom pom have it's own Mkiv rangefinder therefore I would need 8, but I can only account for 4 (2 on each side in front of pom poms)

7 off 20mm Oerlikons that will have PE from Eduard kits to spruce up? I assume they're all single barrel?

1 off 40mm Bofors (according to kit instruction) but haven't got a clue where this is or if it is ok or not?

 

 

5.25 turrrets - I just dressed them up with the Eduard set and kept the kit barrels.

Pom Poms - I bought 6 eight barrel versions from Black Cat (they come in 2's) - I didn't know the X turret was 4 barrelled - we'll keep that between ourselves

MkIV rangefinders - in the kit, there are 4 (2 either side of the fwd superstructure) - I replaced them with Micromaster items

HACS Directors - 4, 2 on upper fwd superstructure and 2 on the rear structure - again Micromaster

20mm - I personally think the plastice parts are great, including the shields. However, if you feel inclinded, the Eduard shields are nice.

40mm - The Eduard set has nice parts to dress up the kit item and replace the 'tub' as well.

 

Hope that helps

[Redstaff]

30 minutes ago, k7rkx said:

Hope that helps

That's brilliant thank you  

I notice that you're in Wales, so can I ask where you get your Black cat and Micromaster items from in the UK, as I've noticed that the Black cats site appears to be French, which isn't too bad but the Micromasters site is New Zealand. Thinking postage costs and delivery times could be expensive and long respectively

Are there any UK model shops / sites that stock these brands, or do I need to go direct?

 

Many thanks

Ian  

[k7rkx]

16 hours ago, Redstaff said:

That's brilliant thank you  

I notice that you're in Wales, so can I ask where you get your Black cat and Micromaster items from in the UK, as I've noticed that the Black cats site appears to be French, which isn't too bad but the Micromasters site is New Zealand. Thinking postage costs and delivery times could be expensive and long respectively

Are there any UK model shops / sites that stock these brands, or do I need to go direct?

 

Many thanks

Ian  

Hi

 

So I order direct - whilst I don't think Micromaster have a UK distributor, I think Starling Models sometimes have BlackCat stuff.

 

For the 6 pom poms from black cat, it cost about £7.50ish shipping.

 

Micromaster charge around the £16.00 mark each time i've ordered from them.

 

Cheers

[Redstaff]

4 hours ago, k7rkx said:

Hi

 

So I order direct - whilst I don't think Micromaster have a UK distributor, I think Starling Models sometimes have BlackCat stuff.

 

For the 6 pom poms from black cat, it cost about £7.50ish shipping.

 

Micromaster charge around the £16.00 mark each time i've ordered from them.

 

That's great thanks

I suppose I need to make a list and place one order with each to save on shipping costs.

I'll have a Google search and see what Starling have

Ian 😀 

[Redstaff]

So it begins  

I'm gradually gathering all the bits around me ready for a build probably starting after the summer hols.  as I tend not to do much modelling when the weather is nice  

First to arrive was a set of metal 14" barrels and a book from E-bay to get a little insight

Kit hopefully arriving from Jadlam tomorrow and the wooden decking is on a slow boat from China 

Will look at the etch over the weekend, Hanants seems to be the best deal at the minute and I think I've got a gift card/voucher thing somewhere 🤔

Then I need to decide exactly what 3D printed parts I need and place orders with Black cat and Micromasters 

 

 

 

[ArnoldAmbrose]

1 hour ago, Redstaff said:

I tend not to do much modelling when the weather is nice  

       G'day, I feel guilty modeling inside when the weather outside is very nice.   For about three seconds. 😁     Sometimes the guilt trip lasts a little longer - today I helped my wife pruning hedges and bushes (shock/horror), ready for the council green-waste collection. 🙂

      I'm looking forward to your build commencing, but only in suitable modeling weather. 🙂     Regards, Jeff.

[Modelholic]

Jeff,

Good job you put 'hedges and' in that post.

I don't feel guilty at all about modelling when the weather's nice. It's been quite nice today and I must admit no modelling was involved. Trying to decorate before moving house does that!

But!

The room being converted into a home office (really a MODELLING ROOM!) will not help me change my mind about doing this hobby when the weather's nice.

Maybe I'm just trying to buck the trend. Or maybe I just think 'model time!'

Tom

[ArnoldAmbrose]

5 hours ago, Modelholic said:

Good job you put 'hedges and' in that post.

LOL 🤣

[Redstaff]

One downside I've discovered about building model ships is getting the kit into the house past SWMBO under the radar 🤣

This is a resume of the conversation 

What's that?

You don't want to know

It can't be a model it's too big

It's a model ship

Why? 

Because I wanted to

I give up....

 

I know it'll cost me somewhere down the line 🤣🤣

 

[Rich75]

Looking forward to seeing this underway, If you haven't already looked I recommend you go on the IWM website for photos of her. There's some fantastic pics and it really is a go to for WW2 RN ships, and this book is pretty useful for some background to the class in general and covers the major engagements they were involved in.

 

[Redstaff]

24 minutes ago, Rich75 said:

Looking forward to seeing this underway, If you haven't already looked I recommend you go on the IWM website for photos of her. There's some fantastic pics and it really is a go to for WW2 RN ships, and this book is pretty useful for some background to the class in general and covers the major engagements they were involved in.

 

Thanks Rich

I have seen some iwm pics, need to do a bit more research. I've got one of those books on order plus the Shipcraft 2 King George V class with loads of tips on modelling the class. Not had time to have a good look yet 

Ian 😀 

[Redstaff]

Time for a little update I think

Since the last post I have been gradually gathering bits and bobs to prepare for the coming Winter build

I have gathered the following to add to the kit

Wooden deck from China

Metal barrels for the 14" guns

Metal barrels for the 5.25 turrets

Eduard PE sets x3

Black cat quad pom pom

Black cat 20mm oerlikons

Micromasters octal pom poms

Micromasters Mk IV pom pom directors with 282 radar

Micromasters Royal Navy HACS MKIVGB with 285 radar

 

All I think I need now is the paint, probably the set from Sovreign, but it's going to be a long build with loads of little bits and bobs to assemble long before I'm needing paint, so I'll order it fresh nearer to the time  

Just a quick primer question, which primers (airbrush preferred) do you guys use on the 3D printed stuff and the kit plastic on with the etch and metal barrels added?

 

Ian  

[robgizlu]

Hi Ian.  I use Mig Ammo "One Shot" primer which I do dilute with Mig thinners approx 3 : 1 primer to thinner.  It'll still dry every so often.  I prime plastic and PE metal with this and also 3D print products.  On occasions I've been lazy and sprayed 3D products without primer and all has been fine.  The one primer exception is resin hulls.  Despite (what I thought was adequate) cleaning I've had paint lift.  I now use bicycle degreaser and use Mig "AStand" primer for these.  It was formerly Alclad.  Cleaning the airbrush needs solvent such as "Sprayaway" for these paints.

Hope you do a WIP - sounds great 

HTH

Rob

[beefy66]

7 hours ago, Redstaff said:

All I think I need now is the paint, probably the set from Sovreign, but it's going to be a long build with loads of little bits and bobs to assemble long before I'm needing paint, so I'll order it fresh nearer to the time  

You may not know but Sovereign Hobbies has stopped all paint production and orders but they could be back buy the time you need it.

 

beefy

[Redstaff]

2 hours ago, robgizlu said:

Hi Ian.  I use Mig Ammo "One Shot" primer which I do dilute with Mig thinners approx 3 : 1 primer to thinner.  It'll still dry every so often.  I prime plastic and PE metal with this and also 3D print products.  On occasions I've been lazy and sprayed 3D products without primer and all has been fine.  The one primer exception is resin hulls.  Despite (what I thought was adequate) cleaning I've had paint lift.  I now use bicycle degreaser and use Mig "AStand" primer for these.  It was formerly Alclad.  Cleaning the airbrush needs solvent such as "Sprayaway" for these paints.

Hope you do a WIP - sounds great 

HTH

Rob

Hi Rob

Thanks for that, one shot is my go to primer, so looks like I'm all sorted then 👍 

I will do a WIP once I start 

Ian 

[Redstaff]

1 hour ago, beefy66 said:

You may not know but Sovereign Hobbies has stopped all paint production and orders but they could be back buy the time you need it.

 

beefy

Thanks for that

I didn't know that, but tbh I'm still not 100%  convinced that I want to use enamels anyway, I'll start looking around for other colour matches then

Cheers

Ian 

[dnl42]

4 hours ago, Redstaff said:

Thanks for that

I didn't know that, but tbh I'm still not 100%  convinced that I want to use enamels anyway, I'll start looking around for other colour matches then

Cheers

Ian 

I recently found out that if you're going to do a disruptive scheme (or anything beyond a single color on all vertical surfaces), you truly want paint that can be sprayed and brushed.

That or go all in with weathered with some amount of multi-hued touch-up.

[StephenB]

Really helpful ideas in this post.