Arma 1/48 announcement at Babaryba

[VMA131Marine]

Is the 4-bladed prop from the P-39Q-25BE included?

[dragonlanceHR]

If not, SBS makes nice resin P-39 propellers.

[zigster]

I'll wait for the next year Arma announcement.

I'm happy for you guys being happy for P-39.

zig

[Stephen]

It's what I thought it would be and a good choice. 

[SleeperService]

35 minutes ago, zigster said:

I'll wait for the next year Arma announcement.

I'm happy for you guys being happy for P-39.

zig

That's very gracious of you, I hope the next kit is to your liking, if it is an Allison engine Mustang I'll be happy with that too.

 

Well looks like it can be built as any version using the plastic parts so this should sell very well and they can rebox it for a very long time. I shall remove my part-built Eduard Mountain of Doom items forthwith, I think I'll have a go at an Airabonita with the plastic and set aside the decals for other uses.

 

To confirm @dragonlanceHR the SBS parts are superb, @VMA131Marine this is the one you want I think.

 

As Arma and Master work together hopefully we'll see the British weapons for the P-400 as well as other quality detail parts for mad people like me.

[2996 Victor]

12 minutes ago, SleeperService said:

if it is an Allison engine Mustang I'll be happy with that too

Definitely! Time to oust those Academy kits!

 

12 minutes ago, SleeperService said:

I'll have a go at an Airabonita with the plastic

Sounds good! Not an easy conversion as the wings are different in plan, apart from being a taildragger, of course, and other details.

 

14 minutes ago, SleeperService said:

As Arma and Master work together hopefully we'll see the British weapons for the P-400 as well as other quality detail parts for mad people like me.

Agreed! The Airacobra Mk.I/P-400 is on my wants list!!!

[SleeperService]

1 minute ago, 2996 Victor said:

Definitely! Time to oust those Academy kits!

 

Sounds good! Not an easy conversion as the wings are different in plan, apart from being a taildragger, of course, and other details.

 

Agreed! The Airacobra Mk.I/P-400 is on my wants list!!!

 

I've got the Steve Ginter book written by @Tailspin Turtle which is very thorough, on his website he has the fix for the wings so I'll give it a go. Looks like it belongs in a 1930s futuristic film, a lot of the work to fix the kit issues can be avoided so maybe it will work out.

[Overflow]

Looking from the posted pics, I am wondering how exactly is this supposed to be better than Hasegawa, no rivets, quite heavy handed panelling and again havily relying on resin for mainstream subtypes( P-400 etc..), like upscaled 1/72nd scale kit...odd.

[hopkp]

5 hours ago, dragonlanceHR said:

Meh...

I'll see your 'meh' and raise you a 'double meh'..........zzzzzzzzzz!

[Mycapt65]

Meh. Not an exciting subject for me. Fit doesn't look good considering these were built for marketing. Hopefully its not as bad as it looks for the people that want a P-39

[Tbolt]

7 minutes ago, Overflow said:

Looking from the posted pics, I am wondering how exactly is this supposed to be better than Hasegawa, no rivets, quite heavy handed panelling and again havily relying on resin for mainstream subtypes( P-400 etc..), like upscaled 1/72nd scale kit...odd.

 

I would be very surprised if the final kit doesn't have rivets. The photos aren't very high quality but it doesn't look like there are any on that build. It doesn't help that the they've used a lighter grey plastic.

[hopkp]

5 hours ago, GioCare said:

Arma lacks imagination but has great concreteness.  

Very few kit manufacturers have much in the way of imagination these days. The main exception would be ICM, everyone else seems unable to look much beyond 'the usual suspects'.

[Tbolt]

1 minute ago, Mycapt65 said:

Meh. Not an exciting subject for me. Fit doesn't look good considering these were built for marketing. Hopefully its not as bad as it looks for the people that want a P-39

 

The build is probably from the first test shot. Arma kits normally fit very well.

[Tbolt]

11 minutes ago, hopkp said:

Very few kit manufacturers have much in the way of imagination these days. The main exception would be ICM, everyone else seems unable to look much beyond 'the usual suspects'.

 

That's just the way things are at the moment. To expect a relativity new, small company like Arma, who are producing highly detailed kits to go for a subject which just wouldn't sell a large number of,  is asking for trouble. Larger companies such as ICM that have been around a lot longer and produce a larger number of cheaper kits can afford to take more of a gamble on a type. If one doesn't sell well, in the short term anyway, it probably doesn't matter. If Arma did that at the moment it could really effect finances. Imagination doesn't pay the bills.

[TheKinksFan]

6 minutes ago, Tbolt said:

Imagination doesn't pay the bills.

Surprisingly many seem to forget that manufacturing scale model kits is a business, not a hobby. And Poland is not Ukraine, the cost of making kits in general is higher.

[28ZComeback]

A lot of people would have liked something esoteric like a Bearcat or Avia 234, but this is a business. As one hobby shop owner told me, “I don’t like strawberry, chocolate and vanilla ice cream, but it sells.”

[Overflow]

20 minutes ago, Tbolt said:

 

I would be very surprised if the final kit doesn't have rivets. The photos aren't very high quality but it doesn't look like there are any on that build. It doesn't help that the they've used a lighter grey plastic.

After their superlative Hurricane, was expecting same surface details, again this is worse than Hasegawa, hopefully some tweaking ia still to be done.

[Tbolt]

2 minutes ago, Overflow said:

After their superlative Hurricane, was expecting same surface details, again this is worse than Hasegawa, hopefully some tweaking ia still to be done.

 

That's what I and everyone who wants this kits is expecting, so I'm sure they won't disappoint.

[TheKinksFan]

Some had unrealistic expectations, or maybe hopes. It's quite obvious that Arma Hobby most probably will first release a kit in 1/72 and after that the same in 1/48. The reverse what Eduard usually does, or will do (hopefully more and more) in the future.

[2996 Victor]

Perhaps everyone who is disappointed might like to start up their own companies to make the models they want, or they could canvass existing manufacturers and see what they say.

 

I'm just happy that companies like Arma are willing to produce such incredibly high quality kits.

 

Just my tuppence worth!

[IanC]

7 hours ago, SprueMan said:

I cannot say it is a surprise, but its nice nonetheless.

Hope the sprues will be shown soon.

 

Shame the schemes are so basic though, but no doubt there will be more boxings such as an Italian and Soviet-Ukrainian and Soviet-Polish one and, if we are lucky, a post war raceplane.

 

It's a big surprise to me, but I've never regarded the P-39 as a 'classic US fighter'. Still, what do I know. Its going to be a cracker, and will sell well, I'm sure. 

[dragonlanceHR]

1 hour ago, 2996 Victor said:

Perhaps everyone who is disappointed might like to start up their own companies to make the models they want, or they could canvass existing manufacturers and see what they say.

 

I'm just happy that companies like Arma are willing to produce such incredibly high quality kits.

 

Just my tuppence worth!

Well... No. It depends on the price vs quality. This P-39 doesn't even come close to their Hurricane. Wanna bet that the asking price will be the same?

 

20 years old Hasegawa kit has 2x finer panel lines than what's shown on the Aema kit photos. And costs less.

[MrB17]

Quite pleased with the outcome, and to top it off I have always wanted to do “Devastating Devil”. For me it’s a bullseye!

The runners on the frames are a curious approach, but I notice that the frames are stackable which should eliminate parts rubbing against each other. Revell Germany did this with the Ju 52 years ago, probably because of the incredible surface details. I suspect the same applies to the Arma surface details. What’s on the table there are likely test shots, so I wouldn’t judge the book by that cover. Time to grab a 1/48 Hurricane to go with it. 
 

Thanks Arma

 

Cheers

 

Jeff

[2996 Victor]

27 minutes ago, dragonlanceHR said:

Well... No. It depends on the price vs quality. This P-39 doesn't even come close to their Hurricane.

Sorry, but how do you know that? The kit isn't due for release until late June/early July, so the model they're showing today will most likely have been built from a test shot.

 

30 minutes ago, dragonlanceHR said:

20 years old Hasegawa kit has 2x finer panel lines than what's shown on the Aema kit photos.

We shall be able to see whether or not that's the case when the Arma kit is released. All their previous kits have extremely finely engraved panel lines. Why would they risk their reputation by employing the Matchbox Canal Digger of old?

 

31 minutes ago, dragonlanceHR said:

And costs less.

I'd say probably, yes, but the prices Hasegawa kits command can be absurd.

 

Let's just wait for the finished article before we slate it.

 

Cheers,

Mark

[Tbolt]

28 minutes ago, MrB17 said:

Quite pleased with the outcome, and to top it off I have always wanted to do “Devastating Devil”. For me it’s a bullseye!

The runners on the frames are a curious approach, but I notice that the frames are stackable which should eliminate parts rubbing against each other. Revell Germany did this with the Ju 52 years ago, probably because of the incredible surface details. I suspect the same applies to the Arma surface details. What’s on the table there are likely test shots, so I wouldn’t judge the book by that cover. Time to grab a 1/48 Hurricane to go with it. 
 

Thanks Arma

 

Cheers

 

Jeff

 

The stackable sprues they have done on other kits and I think are so they don’t get damaged for shipping to them, not in the retail boxes.