Arma 1/48 announcement at Babaryba

[dragonlanceHR]

It is known that Arma Hobby is using Jun Temma's drawings as basis for some of their kits. Problem is, he's drawn almost all of US WW2 fighters  And he's currently building the Arma 1/72 P-39.

 

I do not dare hope for a modern P-36 kit.

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

4 hours ago, Tbolt said:

 

I disagree that the Eduard P-39 is "good enough". The Hasegawa one on the other hand is very nice. 

 

 

Having built all the 1/48 kits from the old Monogram to Hasegawa, and the Eduard. I am curious as to what you think is wrong ? I have my opinions but curious to what your thoughts are ? 
 

How about a P-59 in response to your P-80 comment ? 

Edited May 25 by Corsairfoxfouruncle

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

1 hour ago, IanC said:

To me, 'classic WW2 US fighter' means Wildcat, Hellcat, Corsair, Warhawk or Mustang.

 

My money's on the Corsair. 

Magic factory out of China just dropped new ones. 
 

 

Though Im on your side I really would like a new mold Corsair that I actually want to build. I wont get into why I don't like the kit in the thread above. My comments are in that thread. 

[Tbolt]

10 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Having built all the 1/48 kits from the old Monogram to Hasegawa, and the Eduard. I am curious as to what you think is wrong ? I have my opinions but curious to what your thoughts are ? 
 

How about a P-59 in response to your P-80 comment ? 

 

Though a P-59 would be cool I don't see it as being a classic like the P-80 was and I don't think the P-59 ever saw combat so likely not a large seller for Arma.

[Tbolt]

17 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Magic factory out of China just dropped new ones. 
 

 

Though Im on your side I really would like a new mold Corsair that I actually want to build. I wont get into why I don't like the kit in the thread above. My comments are in that thread. 

 

Yes but we need a new F4U-4/5/6/7 and I didn't like the look of the MF kit, an Arma Corsair would be much better.

[Corsairfoxfouruncle]

13 minutes ago, Tbolt said:

 

Yes but we need a new F4U-4/5/6/7 and I didn't like the look of the MF kit, an Arma Corsair would be much better.

110% on board with you here. 

[Wayne Bull]

My money is on the P-39 , They have the info and scaling it up would be hard . And given there are only a few types to choose from and some of them have just been done it doesnt make financal sense to do something someone has just done . Plus we all know it has to make money or they dont survive , thus why i think the p-39 makes the best sense . The other horse in this race that might be a good option that needs a new kit  is the P-51 A . Both these two offer plenty of reboxing with new decal options as well . I guess we will find out soon enough 

[Tbolt]

25 minutes ago, Wayne Bull said:

My money is on the P-39 , They have the info and scaling it up would be hard . And given there are only a few types to choose from and some of them have just been done it doesnt make financal sense to do something someone has just done . Plus we all know it has to make money or they dont survive , thus why i think the p-39 makes the best sense . The other horse in this race that might be a good option that needs a new kit  is the P-51 A . Both these two offer plenty of reboxing with new decal options as well . I guess we will find out soon enough 

 

But if you've already started tooling for a kit when the other kit is announced it probably makes financial sense to still go ahead with it. 

[TEXANTOMCAT]

I think the Bearcat is a great shout. (Just WW2) 

 

TT

[VMA131Marine]

The other thing we can do is rule things out in 1/48 scale based on the availability of existing kits and see what’s left:

Ruled out

P-51B/C - brand new kit from Eduard

P-51D - market saturated 

P-38 Lightning - the Tamiya kit is one of the best plastic kits ever, I just don’t see it

P-40 B/C - the Airfix kit is very good the rest have flaws, some of them serious

P-40E/K/MN - Hasegawa is very good and Eduard is close to production 

P-47 - Dora Wings for the early versions and then the new Miniart kit plus decent legacy kits from Tamiya, Hasegawa, and Academy

F4F Wildcat - doesn’t make sense with the new Eduard kit out there

P-35 - too obscure

P-43 - obscure and there’s the Dora Wings kit

P-61 - No chance

 

Ruled In 

P-36/Mohawk

P-26 Peashooter - probably too obscure

P-51/51A/Mustang I/Mustang Ia/A-36

P-39/P-400

P-40F/L

P-63 - got a lot more use than is widely acknowledged 

F6F Hellcat - the Eduard kit has been around a long time

F4U-2/1/1A/1D/FG-1D Corsair - the competition is formidable but there is room for a new tool

F2A-1/2/3/B-239/B-339 Buffalo - there’s the 1970s era Tamiya kit and the hard to build Special Hobby kits. Definitely room for a modern tooling

 

 

 

[Tbolt]

12 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said:

The other thing we can do is rule things out in 1/48 scale based on the availability of existing kits and see what’s left:

Ruled out

P-51B/C - brand new kit from Eduard

P-51D - market saturated 

P-38 Lightning - the Tamiya kit is one of the best plastic kits ever, I just don’t see it

P-40 B/C - the Airfix kit is very good the rest have flaws, some of them serious

P-40E/K/MN - Hasegawa is very good and Eduard is close to production 

P-47 - Dora Wings for the early versions and then the new Miniart kit plus decent legacy kits from Tamiya, Hasegawa, and Academy

F4F Wildcat - doesn’t make sense with the new Eduard kit out there

P-35 - too obscure

P-43 - obscure and there’s the Dora Wings kit

P-61 - No chance

 

Ruled In 

P-36/Mohawk

P-26 Peashooter - probably too obscure

P-51/51A/Mustang I/Mustang Ia/A-36

P-39/P-400

P-40F/L

P-63 - got a lot more use than is widely acknowledged 

F6F Hellcat - the Eduard kit has been around a long time

F4U-2/1/1A/1D/FG-1D Corsair - the competition is formidable but there is room for a new tool

F2A-1/2/3/B-239/B-339 Buffalo - there’s the 1970s era Tamiya kit and the hard to build Special Hobby kits. Definitely room for a modern tooling

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't call the Academy P-47 decent by modern standards, which rules in a P-47N, though I think risky as MiniArt are likely to do one. The P-40F/L is being done by Eduard so that probably rules that out. I wouldn't call the P-63 classic and is probably risky since the Dora Wings kit was probably bought by most wanting one.

 

 

[VMA131Marine]

1 minute ago, Tbolt said:

 

I wouldn't call the Academy P-47 decent by modern standards, which rules in a P-47N, though I think risky as MiniArt are likely to do one. The P-40F/L is being done by Eduard so that probably rules that out. I wouldn't call the P-63 classic and is probably risky since the Dora Wings kit was probably bought by most wanting one.

 

 

I could have had a separate line item for the P-47N as it’s quite a different beast from the D’s and M’s. You are correct that the available kits are somewhat lacking.

[Tbolt]

2 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said:

I could have had a separate line item for the P-47N as it’s quite a different beast from the D’s and M’s. You are correct that the available kits are somewhat lacking.

 

Bottom line here is, what ever it is I will buying at least one 😉

[28ZComeback]

So, B-18 Bolo it is. Not. 

[352nd Fighter Group]

1/48 Buchon ?

[Tokyo Raider]

I thought Eduard was also doing the P40F/L...  so cross that off the list.

 

Also Tamiya just updated their Wildcat kit...

[Tokyo Raider]

Guessing is Fun.  I wish it was something else, but P39 looks to be the obvious kit.

 

I built the Eduard p39/p-400...

[Tbolt]

11 minutes ago, Tokyo Raider said:

I thought Eduard was also doing the P40F/L...  so cross that off the list.

 

Also Tamiya just updated their Wildcat kit...

 

That was only to make a F4F-3, its still essentially the old kit.

 

16 minutes ago, 352nd Fighter Group said:

1/48 Buchon ?

 

That's not a US aircraft.

[LN-KEH]

2 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:

Copied from what the person above wrote

My take on this in order of probability as I see it:

F2A-1/2/3/B-239/B-339 Buffalo - various versions, used by Finland, choices of colourful USN, RAF and Belgian markings.  

P-36/Mohawk - here they have a lot of versions and marking options.

Bearcat - USN, French, Thai and Vietnamese markings as well as racers possible, they did a resin version back in time.

P-63 - mainly Russian and South American use - so not so interesting

Tigercat - too large in 1:48 for Arma and not a great selection of markings

Edited May 25 by LN-KEH

[Fullofit]

I wonder if we should factor in the “Polish connection” into this selection. AH seems to like to do kits where they can slap on the red and white ‘szachownica’ on the plane (except the Japanese example - don’t know what’d happened there). That cuts down the selection a bit.

[Ad-4N]

The only plausible conclusion has to be a 1/48 Douglas BTD Destroyer.

[Phas3e]

I think more US WWII fighters are classics than arent so its a decent list.

 

Im hoping its an Alison Mustang (but is it a classic in that form?) but more likely a Corsair or maybe (hopefully) a Hellcat.

 

If its a Merlin Mustang or a Thunderbolt I wont indulge, theres plenty of other options im happy to build.

 

Safe money on a P39 seeing they have the research available but is it a classic?

Edited May 26 by Phas3e

[TheKinksFan]

Eduard released their P-39 kit in 2000 and have since re-released it in 21 different boxings, so obviously there is demand for Airacobras. And you can always pull up some interesting camouflage schemes, that's the beauty of US fighters, not only USAAF schemes, but also those that served in other air forces.

[352nd Fighter Group]

 AD-4NA🙏

Edited May 26 by 352nd Fighter Group
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[TheKinksFan]

7 minutes ago, 352nd Fighter Group said:

Late MK Spitfire XIV.e not many Griffon spits out there 

It's not a classic WW2 US fighter.