Phoenix44 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Newsletter from Arma: "New Kit Anouncement on Babaryba We will show test sprues, decals and other elements of a model kit of a classic US World War II fighter in 1/48 scale. Immediately after the “Babaryba” Festival, we will start preparing its pre-order, and in mid-June, the kit will be available. We will also reveal a little secret about the next kit in 1/72 scale." Surely not a P-51, P-47 or a P-40? Hellcat? 2
hopkp Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 8 minutes ago, Phoenix44 said: Surely not a P-51, P-47 or a P-40? Hellcat? I can't see why they'd bother to do any of those, given that all have been done to modern standards many times before, most relatively - or even very - recently (or in the case of the P-40, with a new series coming soon). I get the whole 'X's kit of subject Y doesn't make any money for company Z' argument, but surely Arma would be looking beyond 'the usual suspects'? Either way, it'll be interesting to see what it is. If I could pick the subject, I'd ask them to scale up their 1/72 Iskra! 🙂 1
Scimitar F1 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 P-39 Perhaps? Not well done yet with no new kit for over 20 years, lots of markings and they have done it in 1/72. Will 6
TheKinksFan Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 36 minutes ago, Phoenix44 said: We will also reveal a little secret about the next kit in 1/72 scale I certainly hope that the secret is that there won't be any new 1/72 kits. Just kidding. My bet is also a P-39. They wouldn't release a 1/48 kit that is expensive to tool, if the subject wasn't popular enough. 2
Bozothenutter Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 21 minutes ago, hopkp said: I can't see why they'd bother to do any of those, given that all have been done to modern standards many times before, most relatively - or even very - recently (or in the case of the P-40, with a new series coming soon). I get the whole 'X's kit of subject Y doesn't make any money for company Z' argument, but surely Arma would be looking beyond 'the usual suspects'? Either way, it'll be interesting to see what it is. If I could pick the subject, I'd ask them to scale up their 1/72 Iskra! 🙂 All car companies make a hatchback don't they? As a manufacturer you can't afford NOT to have the standard bread'n'butter kits 2
2996 Victor Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 My guess would also be P-39 (although an F2A by Arma would be amazing!). Looking forward to the big reveal! Mark 1
Sabrejet Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Are we not out of 1/48 WW2 subjects in 1/48? Botha maybe? 1 1
2996 Victor Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sabrejet said: Are we not out of 1/48 WW2 subjects in 1/48? Botha maybe? Arma's press release refers to it as a "classic US World War II fighter".
pengland007 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Just now, Tbolt said: A P-39 would be great, but it could be a Corsair? I was thinking along the same lines, not sure if they consider the Magic Factory or Hobbyboss Corsairs as something to compete against (obviously those have issues to some degree). I have a sneaking guess it's either a Razorback P-47D or Hellcat. 3
Tbolt Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Just now, pengland007 said: I was thinking along the same lines, not sure if they consider the Magic Factory or Hobbyboss Corsairs as something to compete against (obviously those have issues to some degree). I have a sneaking guess it's either a Razorback P-47D or Hellcat. Since the Magic Factory kit was only announced last year, Arma Hobby would have had most of the work done by then so it wouldn't have effected any decision and we'll I don't think Arma are going to worry about anything from hobby Boss! A Hellcat would be cool as well but an Arma P-47 would be amazing. 2
VMA131Marine Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 I’m siding with the people who say P-39. Arma has already done the research for their 1/72 kit and the other 1/48 kits available are old or very old (Eduard or Monogram) or difficult to obtain (Hasegawa). As for the new 1/72 kit, I wonder if they are going to do something post-WWII … MiG-17 /Lim-5 perhaps? of course I still hold out hope for the Blackburn R.1 Blackburn. 4 1
hopkp Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: Are we not out of 1/48 WW2 subjects in 1/48? I keep hoping that this is the case, but somehow most kit manufacturers still seem unable to look beyond 1939-1945 for their subjects. I really don't understand the ongoing fixation on that period..... Edited May 24, 2024 by hopkp 4
hopkp Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fullofit said: I bet it’s gonna be P-51B/C Mustang. If it is, then I can't see it selling too well.....unless it's either much better (hard to see), or much cheaper, than the new Eduard one? Edited May 24, 2024 by hopkp
hopkp Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 19 minutes ago, 352nd Fighter Group said: 1/48 F8F-2 Bearcat 🙏 Wouldn't be the worst choice of subject.....at least it hasn't been quite done to death just yet; not a great choice of colour schemes though.
Piotr Mikolajski Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 1 hour ago, hopkp said: I really don't understand the ongoing fixation on that period..... This 'ongoing fixation' is better known as 'return on investment'. 11
hopkp Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: This 'ongoing fixation' is better known as 'return on investment'. I should perhaps have been more specific. I understand why kit manufacturers would keep doing the same WWII subjects as long as they keep selling well. What I really don't understand is why people keep buying them.....though I'm fully aware I'm in a very small minority in that regard. 2
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 4 hours ago, Tbolt said: A P-39 would be great, but it could be a Corsair? Id be happy with either, the Corsair is my favorite and the Cobra is my second. 1
Piotr Mikolajski Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 1 hour ago, hopkp said: What I really don't understand is why people keep buying them... It's simple - we have the most books, games and movies about the Second World War, plus there are also the most sources for modellers for equipment from this period. On top of that, it is a period of enormous variety in types, countries involved, theatres of operations, markings and so on. Last but not least, it is a period of enormous technological progress. The air force in 1939 still has canvas-covered biplanes armed with a single machine gun. The air force in 1945 is equipped with all-metal jet aircraft armed with missiles. People entering the hobby, returning to it or changing their object of interest, will primarily want to buy a Spitfire, Mustang, Messerschmitt or Zero, not a Sabre, Javelin, Ouragan or Canuck. This, I am afraid, is inevitable. 4
hopkp Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 36 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: It's simple - we have the most books, games and movies about the Second World War, plus there are also the most sources for modellers for equipment from this period. On top of that, it is a period of enormous variety in types, countries involved, theatres of operations, markings and so on. Last but not least, it is a period of enormous technological progress. The air force in 1939 still has canvas-covered biplanes armed with a single machine gun. The air force in 1945 is equipped with all-metal jet aircraft armed with missiles. Sorry, but I don’t really buy any of that, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. There are plenty of movies about post-WWII conflicts and many reference books dealing with post-WWII military aircraft (I know this for sure because my bookshelves are full of them). As for "enormous technical progress", the period between the 1950s and the 1980s saw developments in aviation technology that were arguably just as significant as those that occurred during WWII (perhaps even more so) and your comment about "an enormous variety in types, countries involved, theatres of operations, markings and so on" could in my view be applied just as easily to the years between 1950 and 1990. Just take helicopters as an example - as far as I'm aware, they were practically non-existent in an operational context in 1945, but within a few years were in widespread use worldwide and still are right up to the present day. However, relatively few kits of most of these machines done to current standards are available - though in fairness ICM looks like changing that, how long have we been waiting for a decent H-60 series in 1/48? The phrase "enormous variety...countries involved, theatres of operations, markings and so on" could have been tailor-made for the H-60! 3
zigster Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 I put my money on Allison Mustang, let say NA73 to start with...😀 zig 7
Rulaman Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 8 hours ago, Phoenix44 said: classic US World War II fighter in 1/48 I would prefer a P-36 Hawk/Hawk 75/Mohawk. Many, many different boxings, versions possible. Cheers. Frank 7
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