Mjwomack Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The title says it all really, but I'm supposed to write something in here... Following chat over in Baby Boomers, I've learnt that a while ago @CliffB proposed a Rolls Royce powered GB, but there was very little interest. Well, I'm here to try and turn that motor over again. It's that simple really, anything that had a power-plant by Rolls Royce is in, so it can be cars, shipping, a hanger full of civil aviation, some military type come to mind (I think the early Spitfires had Merlins in them, maybe someone can confirm). One offs, eperimentals, proposals all welcome, I guess a wattiff at a push. For figure modellers, the gents themselves and at a stretch, Rose Royce (as long as you do the flares accurately). The most obscure thing I can come up with is that pre-electrification, Bedford to London commuters rode in a Rolls Royce diesel everyday (the lucky peeps) So, any takers? Clarification of criteria Following some discussion (bottom of p1 into p2 of this thread), the Great Mind of BM is going for a very broad approach to what is Rolls Royce powered. Trusting the maturity of the BM Massif (and they rarely let me down), if you think it's a Roller it is a Roller! So can be licensed Packard, unlicensed clones, can be original RR, nationalised RR, privatised RR The idea is for a diverse and eclectic GB, the 'Bring em All Roller GB' 1. @Mjwomack 2. @CliffB 3. @Pig of the Week 4. @zebra 5. @Richard Humm 6. @vppelt68 7. @theplasticsurgeon 8. @Corsairfoxfouruncle 9. @RobG 10. @psdavidson 11. @Colin W 12. @Wings unlevel 13. @Col. 14. @Ngantek 15. @nimrod54 16. @Jabba 17. @Karearea 18. @Toryu 19. @dnl42 20. @R T Fishall 21. @Beardybloke 22. @Black Knightoo 23. @JOCKNEY 24. @ModelingEdmontonian 25. @Rafwaffe 26. @stevehnz 27. @mark.au 28. @Dave Slowbuild 29. @Bobby No Mac 30. @Skyf24 31. @Celestialsphere 32. @RMP2 33. @Pedro52 34. @Ettore 35. @Romeo Alpha Yankee 36. @SnoMotion 37. @Mancunian airman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig of the Week Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Everything had a Roller in it at one point pretty much, I'm sure I'll find something.. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Of course I'll say yes (but shouldn't this be in the Bunfight Proposals 2025 section?) Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 23 minutes ago, CliffB said: Of course I'll say yes (but shouldn't this be in the Bunfight Proposals 2025 section?) Cheers I presume nothing, maybe you'd moved onto GE or P&W? Seriously thought, I admit to not understanding the new system for GB proposals- but I thought they started off in here until they got the auxiliary power running because once you went across into the 2025 section you were committed to full power runs, and only got one chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Count me in. From the current stash I can do Viper, Merlin, Olympus, Spey, Derwent, Pegasus, Conway, Avon, RB199, EJ200, RB145, Dart, Tay, Nene, RB211, Kestrel and Gnome. So one or two options. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 49 minutes ago, Mjwomack said: Seriously thought, I admit to not understanding the new system for GB proposals- but I thought they started off in here until they got the auxiliary power running because once you went across into the 2025 section you were committed to full power runs, and only got one chance? I'm uncertain too. @Enzo the Magnificent could you clarify please - should proposals for GBs sit here in Chat or be in Bunfight Proposals? Thanks 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, zebra said: Count me in. From the current stash I can do Viper, Merlin, Olympus, Spey, Derwent, Pegasus, Conway, Avon, RB199, EJ200, RB145, Dart, Tay, Nene, RB211, Kestrel and Gnome. So one or two options. That's a solo GB on it's own - how many votes is that worth if this gets to the bunfight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, CliffB said: I'm uncertain too. @Enzo the Magnificent could you clarify please - should proposals for GBs sit here in Chat or be in Bunfight Proposals? Thanks 👍 @Mjwomack is correct. A GB proposal should start off in chat. This is where it gets run up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. Once we have co-hosts and enough people saluting to give it a bit of traction, then we can move it to the Proposals section. That's when the lobbying really starts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 8 hours ago, Mjwomack said: at a stretch, Rose Royce (as long as you do the flares accurately). Maybe Rose polishing a Rolls engined car at the Car Wash... Says he, knowing full well that Rose Royce is a band, not a person. The singer was Gwen Dickey. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, Enzo the Magnificent said: Maybe Rose polishing a Rolls engined car at the Car Wash... Says he, knowing full well that Rose Royce is a band, not a person. The singer was Gwen Dickey. Impressive knowledge, I'd have you in my pub quiz team! And look forward to the model you describe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Humm Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I've got cars, aircraft, tanks and I think a boat with RR engines, so I'm in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Quoting a modelling friend from Scotland, I'll be in with something "boringly predictable". Only in my case, that'd really be boring and predictable . V-P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 9 hours ago, Richard Humm said: I've got cars, aircraft, tanks and I think a boat with RR engines, so I'm in. Tanks- of course! I'd forgotten that AFVs are a great way for us paupers to test drive marquee engine- Rolls Royce v Porsche! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 37 minutes ago, vppelt68 said: Quoting a modelling friend from Scotland, I'll be in with something "boringly predictable". Only in my case, that'd really be boring and predictable . V-P N1340N would be right up your street... https://www.aerovintage.com/2022/11/25/the-unique-turboprop-b-17/ Think I'd better start a list for my aged brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I'm certain that I could find something, if this goes into proposals, and is successful at Bunfight. Unvouched subjects include: Italeri AMX (RR Spey), Airfix Hawk (RR Adour) 3 Airfix Harriers (RR Pegasus) Spitfire (RR Merlin) Spitfire (RR Gryphon) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I find that a few tanks were powered by Rolls Royce Meteor’s. Add me to the list with something armored or if that fails one of my 25+ spitfires. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig of the Week Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 56 minutes ago, Mjwomack said: Tanks- of course! I'd forgotten that AFVs are a great way for us paupers to test drive marquee engine- Rolls Royce v Porsche! Even a scumbag like me had been behind the wheel of a RR engined thing, Humber Pig in this case 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Hmm. Even picking things powered by just one engine type, for example the 'R', could keep you building for many moons. Doubly so in this case, as many of the things that they powered aren't available as kits, ensuring that a lot of scratchbuilding would be required. Not by me, mind you. I have difficulties finishing a Matchbox kit OOB in a GB time frame, so a scratchbuilt anything ain't gonna happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 4 hours ago, Rob G said: Hmm. Even picking things powered by just one engine type, for example the 'R', could keep you building for many moons. Doubly so in this case, as many of the things that they powered aren't available as kits, ensuring that a lot of scratchbuilding would be required. Not by me, mind you. I have difficulties finishing a Matchbox kit OOB in a GB time frame, so a scratchbuilt anything ain't gonna happen. But there are Matchbox kits of RR powered beasts, so I'm taking that as an expression of interest - Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I assume you'll only accept proper Rolls Royce Merlins, and not the license built Packards? That'll be fine, I'm just checking to be sure - Special Hobby just announced a new run of their Merlin Warhawks, but there'll be other GB:s for that one 😉. V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig of the Week Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 You can tell by the layer of dust how long my rather battered olde Airfix Rolls has been on't top shelf... Don't suppose Airfix still do this one as a "retro", or indeed any of the other cars. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngantek Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 25/02/2024 at 09:45, zebra said: Count me in. From the current stash I can do Viper,[...] Olympus,[...] Pegasus, [...] Gnome. So one or two options. Question here, what qualifies as Rolls-Royce? Is it only things designed under the RR brand (would exclude the above), or only those produced under RR (would exclude, for example, the Pegasus radial but not the V/TOL), or anything with a history that is now under the RR banner? I expect the latter would probably encompass the vast majority of UK aviation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 59 minutes ago, Pig of the Week said: You can tell by the layer of dust how long my rather battered olde Airfix Rolls has been on't top shelf... Don't suppose Airfix still do this one as a "retro", or indeed any of the other cars. If you've got £20 to spare https://www.kingkit.co.uk/product/airfix-cars-motorbikes-trucks--1315-1911-rolls-royce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, vppelt68 said: I assume you'll only accept proper Rolls Royce Merlins, and not the license built Packards? That'll be fine, I'm just checking to be sure - Special Hobby just announced a new run of their Merlin Warhawks, but there'll be other GB:s for that one 😉. V-P 46 minutes ago, Ngantek said: Question here, what qualifies as Rolls-Royce? Is it only things designed under the RR brand (would exclude the above), or only those produced under RR (would exclude, for example, the Pegasus radial but not the V/TOL), or anything with a history that is now under the RR banner? I expect the latter would probably encompass the vast majority of UK aviation. I don 't know!!!! I think this is the advantage of the new 'two-stage' approach to GB proposals, this sort of thing can be tossed around by the mighty BM mind, before going. onto the next stage. In my simple way, I probable veer towards RR Banner, (though not necessarily ',.. history of'. Trying to flesh that out a bit, Alas no to Packards, because they're Packards. If it's commonly referred to as R/R, so R/R Merlin or R/R Olympus, it's allowed. Or A R/R Phantom to go towards cars, What do peeps think to the idea ofd pre-1971- borrowing in part from the thinking of the Baby Boomers Gb, but also to fit in with the date of receivership and a what I'd see as a significant change (liquidation) Or 1987 (re-privatisation if that's a word). Thoughts welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig of the Week Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Hmm, with the Airfix Roller, I think I'd just have a look on evilbay and see if I could get a cheapo one without all the original bag / header card 'collectible' business 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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