Dennis_C Posted June 11, 2024 Posted June 11, 2024 1 hour ago, TEXANTOMCAT said: Aggy Paggy is bound to be one scheme people would like I suspect TT Is that G-AGPG? That looks aggy! Or paggy? 1
TEXANTOMCAT Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 8 hours ago, Dennis_C said: Is that G-AGPG? That looks aggy! Or paggy? Yes…. https://www.avroheritagemuseum.co.uk/anson-aggy-paggy-cockpit 1
Dennis_C Posted June 12, 2024 Posted June 12, 2024 (edited) Think someone is bringing a conversion set for that nose! Her original schemes while in Avro possession in overall blue and later in silver with a blue tear-drop cheatline look good as well! Edited June 12, 2024 by Dennis_C 1
Homebee Posted June 14, 2024 Author Posted June 14, 2024 (edited) Released - https://www.valom.net/?page_id=23 - ref. 72164 - Avro Anson C.19 - ref. 72165 - Avro Anson T.21 Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=1002178485031484&id=100057180261512 V.P. Edited August 28, 2024 by Homebee 1
fightersweep Posted June 14, 2024 Posted June 14, 2024 As a Southend lad who spent a lot of time at the museum there, G-AGPG in her Ekco scheme would be pretty welcome. Prentice would also be great eventually. Remember lots of those at Southend too. Can't wait for these Ansons though. One of mine is certainly going to be WD413 as she was circa 1983.
TEXANTOMCAT Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) Received mine today from Jadlam via ebay- £37.95 with free shipping and nearly a fiver cheaper than Hannants from where there would have been postage on top - if I'd gone straight to Jadlam and not used Ebay it would have been £35 with free shipping! Hope that helps someone! I got the the T.21 variant with 1 RFS markings which should be easy to convert to 6 RFS Sywell which is the scheme I want to do. You will need to mask and paint the training bands and there are no stencils, with which the prototype is bedecked. A masking set will be your friend I suspect with the rather complex glazing, that said it is one piece of the 'baseball cap' type, unlike their Valetta which has separate side windows which meant you had to be a one-armed paper hanger to fit it together. It shouldn't be too difficult to separate the side windows if you wanted one open. Framing is clear and chunky so even you wanted to mask the glazing yourself it should be pretty straightforward - I will wait for Peewit and cheat. Moulding wise it is typical Valom, panel line consistency but is generally good, I think the fabric areas are very well done. None of the control surfaces are separate. The side glazing is push to fit without any rebate to aid location which, with the amount of flash - which isn't awful but is present on the smaller parts - will need care. the recesses are quite deep which is actually accurate for the machine. Interior is very basic though you won't see much of the cabin, you will of the cockpit. The cabin has two warren girder type pieces to replicate the interior structure which should work well through the windows. The cockpit would benefit from some dressing up I think and you could open the door in the bulkhead which is moulded closed as is the crew door. Engines are ok but you probably wont see much of them cowled up with the big spinners in situ. What will be the acid test will be the 'sit' of the machine. Parts count is low so it should be a quick build, fit permitting. It is an excellent canvas to work from and seems accurate to my eye. Moulding is sort of Matchbox + - I think that's a fair way of describing it but will be familiar to anyone who has stuck together a Valom kit before. Absolute Kudos to Valom for kitting this variant - I think it should sell extremely well and I hope it does for them - we own them a big debt for filling various gaps in the market and you are spoilt for choice for schemes - our friends at Hannants are no doubt firing up the printers as we speak. I look forward to seeing many on show tables - the last (and I think only) time one could buy this version was from Aeroclub back in the dark ages and that had a vacform fuselage! Well done Valom TT Edited June 28, 2024 by TEXANTOMCAT 2 5
TheyJammedKenny! Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 57 minutes ago, TEXANTOMCAT said: rather complex glazing, that said it is one piece of the 'baseball cap' type, Thanks, sir! Can you share with us some sprue shots when you have a second? We would love to see what it looks like. I wasn't sure I quite understood the above, though I think I do. Are passenger windows molded as a continuous clear panel from fore to aft, or as separate, annoying pieces you need to press fit in? What about the engines? Are they detailed at all? I was hoping they would include resin versions of the Cheetahs m'self, because so much is visible. 1
TEXANTOMCAT Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) No problem TJK No 'pill strip' they are individual ovals to press in without a rebate on either the fuse or the clear part to help you - same for the two lozenge shaped windows on the dorsal seam. You do get an alternative part with an astrodome for the latter though. I've tried to get the light to shine on the fabric detail which is really nice IMHO - same with the rudder definition. If you chuck a load of etch at it, drop the flaps and control surfaces, open the door, scratch an interior, replace the wheels and engines it would be a real show stopper as the basic outline is really nice I think The Cheetahs are ok -pretty basic but by the time they are in the nacelle you should be ok as IIRC they are all black especially with the big thick props and spinners. Hope this helps... IMG_6576 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6577 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6573 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6574 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6575 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6579 by Ben Brown, on Flickr IMG_6580 by Ben Brown, on Flickr Edited June 28, 2024 by TEXANTOMCAT 6 3
TEXANTOMCAT Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 Oh and if it helps here is a link to a nice chap who provides a download of the post war RAF letter font as a zip file - I've used it in the past in Word to print my own decals - it is safe. As such, barring things like station or squadron crests you should be able to do most RAF post war Anson- https://volareproducts.com/new2024/downloads/aircraft-fonts-for-download/ TT
Philly1860 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 Have mine ordered, will be doing in IAC colours & decals. Colin 1
maxdecal Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Philly1860 said: Have mine ordered, will be doing in IAC colours & decals. Colin Max Decals 7225 will have markings for Irish Air Corps Anson XIX No. 141. It's with the printer and should be available late July or early August. Being an early Anson XIX you will have to modify the kit outer wings to the wider chord type as used on the Anson Mk1. I intend to do this by taking the outer wings from an old Airfix or the more modern Special Hobby Mk 1 kit. Edited June 29, 2024 by maxdecal 3
CH-53D Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, maxdecal said: Max Decals 7225 will have markings for Irish Air Corps Anson XIX No. 141. It's with the printer and should be available late July or early August. Being an early Anson XIX you will have to modify the kit outer wings to the wider chord type as used on the Anson Mk1. I intend to do this by taking the outer wings from an old Airfix or the more modern Special Hobby Mk 1 kit. I have one on order, which will also be Irish Air Corps. I have a couple of the old Airfix Ansons in my stash, so one can donate it's outer wings. I also have Max Decals sheet 72-001, which has markings for 141, that I picked up on a trip home to Dublin many many moons ago. It's been carefully stored, so hopefully still good, but I'll definitely be buying 7225 when it comes out. Edited June 29, 2024 by CH-53D 1
Ptmvarsityfan Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 Kit looks very good but once again Valom don't include the cheat lines in the decal sheet! I've still got a couple of order though from Clifton Curios, my favourite model shop in Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire! Cheers, Paul
Philly1860 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 8 hours ago, maxdecal said: Max Decals 7225 will have markings for Irish Air Corps Anson XIX No. 141. It's with the printer and should be available late July or early August. Being an early Anson XIX you will have to modify the kit outer wings to the wider chord type as used on the Anson Mk1. I intend to do this by taking the outer wings from an old Airfix or the more modern Special Hobby Mk 1 kit. Great news Joe. Looking forward to their release and the others in the pipeline too. 2
fightersweep Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 Just a quickie. Is there any external differences between the C.19 and T.21? Edit: Jadlam wesbsite showing as out of stock. I went with Tiger Hobbies on eBay. Cheers! Steve
Natter Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 11:26 AM, maxdecal said: Being an early Anson XIX you will have to modify the kit outer wings to the wider chord type as used on the Anson Mk1. I intend to do this by taking the outer wings from an old Airfix or the more modern Special Hobby Mk 1 kit. Oh-kay. My Valom Anson arrived yesterday and this afternoon I dug out the Special Hobby and Airfix Ansons from my stash for some comparisons. This has left me in a conundrum regarding the aileron types fitted to the Irish C.19s. Firstly, the Special Hobby Mk.1 Late (SH) lower wing overlaid on the Valom lower wing. You can see there is a noticeable difference in chord that will require some work to correct if you decided to do a complete wing-swap: SH lower over Valom Should you follow this route there is some challenging work to do on the upper wing sections, though the SH kit has the smooth nacelles as well as the resin nacelles with the cyliner head fairings. The chord at the root of the wings of the SH and Valom kits is very different, and the faired curve to the fuselage is therefore in a different place. The fit profile of the wing uppers to the fuselage halves at the two root sections is different too: SH upper over Valom The Airfix wing. Well, we know the Airfix wing is 'of its time' in terms of moulding and detail, but I would sacrifice an Airfix Anson before I would sacrifice a SH Anson. Joe ( @maxdecal) notes the possibility of using the outer secions of the Airfix wings and mating them to the Valom wings. Yes, some work to do, but probably better than wasting a SH kit. Airfix upper over Valom Now to a thornier question that someone may be able to answer, please. Help! Ailerons... Ailerons Valom over SH The Valom wings have the short ailerons of the tapered wings, the SH and Airfix kits have the long ailerons, but I can't see from the limited photos I have found what length on ailerons were fitted to the Irish C.19s. Perhaps like this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/smon/8003973950/in/photostream/ Note: inserted as a link as I'm not sure about copyright.
Ptmvarsityfan Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 Off the top of my head I think this difference in chord could be correct, all mk 1 's had wooden wings of a different profile than the metal wings of the last versions of the 19 and the earliest 19s also retained the earlier wings I suspect the Irish examples had the earlier wings while Valom have modelled the metal winged versions. Hope this makes sense! 1
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/7/2024 at 12:29 PM, fightersweep said: Is there any external differences between the C.19 and T.21? For your purposes, they are minor. The C.19 has an extra frame on the canopy each side, just above the pilot's head. There may be different radio antennas fitted in different locations. Also, I think the C.19 lacked the cabin roof windows. Bottom line is that the kits are identical aside from decals, I'm pretty darn sure. But I've been known to be wrong... 1
fightersweep Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 @TheyJammedKenny! Thanks! That's good to know. I've opted for the T.21! 1
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 15, 2024 Posted July 15, 2024 Has anyone in the group started on one, even just to tape it together and show us how it looks? @TEXANTOMCAT, I'm looking at you...!
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 15, 2024 Posted July 15, 2024 1 hour ago, TEXANTOMCAT said: waiting for a masking set I'll tell KV to get right on it!! 1
VMA131Marine Posted July 16, 2024 Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/7/2024 at 9:50 AM, Natter said: Well, we know the Airfix wing is 'of its time' in terms of moulding and detail, but I would sacrifice an Airfix Anson before I would sacrifice a SH Anson. The very first release of the Airfix 1/72 Anson has smooth wings, they added the ribbing later for some odd reason. These kits are the ones issued in bagged form, all the boxed issues have the ribbed wings. 2
fightersweep Posted July 19, 2024 Posted July 19, 2024 On 7/15/2024 at 3:05 PM, TEXANTOMCAT said: Not yet mate- waiting for a masking set ! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Peewit on that front. I think I'll send them an email and ask. 1
Homebee Posted October 22, 2024 Author Posted October 22, 2024 New boxings announced Source: https://www.valom.net/?page_id=1137 - ref. 72168 - Avro Anson C.19 - Irish Air Corps - ref. 72169 - Avro Anson T.22 V.P.
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