Sturmovik Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hi guys! I plan (if everything goes smoothly) on getting Tamiya's He 219A-7. Box schemes are fairly dull, black over light blue or the latter colour covering the entire aircraft. Since the He 219, for me, borders Luft 46, I would like to get some inspiration for a whiffer camouflage. I was thinking on RLM 02 on the lower surfaces, making the aircraft some sort of prototype, with the top sides painted in the regular splinter pattern of RLM 74 and 75 the Bf 110 have. Another idea was of a splinter of RLM 81 and 82 over 76. I also though on painting the wings in a combination of RLM 76 with 75 and, last but not list, a camou of RLM 77 and 81. However, if any of you have a website where I can input the airframe and colours so I can make my own mixes, I'd be very grateful. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, Sturmovik said: Box schemes are fairly dull, black over light blue or the latter colour covering the entire aircraft. THere was a scheme with the uppers in 75, and that had a squiggle pattern sprayed over it in 76, the NASM machine is in this scheme. and there were some in a defensive scheme, with green or brown uppers "As if it were not interesting enough, this "Uhu" has got a so called "Liegeplatz-Tarnung" (Airfield-Hiding-Camo) of RLM 83 dark-green sprayed over the RLM 75/76 camouflage. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen Barett Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 RLM 78/79 and RLM 80 squiggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 41 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: the NASM machine is in this scheme. Saw that one. It's even mentioned the squiggles are in the blue-green RLM 76 (or 84). Still fairly boring for me. 41 minutes ago, Jochen Barett said: RLM 78/79 and RLM 80 squiggles. Isn't that a desert camouflage? I'm after a what if nightfighter one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 RLM 85 and RLM 86 splinter camouflage with RLM 87 mottle and RLM 88 undersurfaces. Unit markings in RLM 99. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Hi As it is a whif maybe do it as survivor that entered the west german airforce in '56 pretty sure some mosquito NF was still in service with some AF in '50s or this as luft 46 https://imodeler.com/2020/01/vandy-vandas/ cheers jerry Edited January 15 by brewerjerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 What if the German Navy were using a couple for Radar trials? Possibly with anti ship missiles? Low level. blocks of grey paint with green lines? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Ed Russell said: RLM 85 and RLM 86 splinter camouflage with RLM 87 mottle and RLM 88 undersurfaces. Unit markings in RLM 99. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations Never heard of those RLM shades. Don't you mean 75, 76, 77 and 78? 1 hour ago, brewerjerry said: maybe do it as survivor that entered the west german airforce in '56 Don't have the adequate decals for that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 45 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: What if the German Navy were using a couple for Radar trials? Possibly with anti ship missiles? Low level. blocks of grey paint with green lines? It has to be a nightfighter. I'm going what if, but I want to base it on an IRL machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 minutes ago, Sturmovik said: Never heard of those RLM shades. Don't you mean 75, 76, 77 and 78? No, what I quoted is correct for a "what-if" 😀 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I have always thought the point of what if it was that you could do it however you liked. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 48 minutes ago, Bertie McBoatface said: you could do it however you liked. Ooooh no! RLM 85, RLM 86, RLM 87, RLM 88 and RLM 99 are strictly controlled colours!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen Barett Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, Sturmovik said: +++ Isn't that a desert camouflage? I'm after a what if nightfighter one. It's a desert night fighter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I went through a brief and abortive whiff period in the late 00s. I used to download a three-view line drawing of my chosen subject and just open it in MS Paint and try colouring it in with different paint schemes to see what they looked like. The colours don't have to be exact matches, just to see what the different patterns and overall effect looked like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdna Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 In 1946, the 'Whif RLM' identified neon yellow and luminous pink as the most effective nightfighter colours, applied in diagonal stripes. Prove me wrong.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 There was one Heinkel He 219 Uhu that was painted completely in white. Saluti Giampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Troy Smith said: THere was a scheme with the uppers in 75, and that had a squiggle pattern sprayed over it in 76, the NASM machine is in this scheme. and there were some in a defensive scheme, with green or brown uppers "As if it were not interesting enough, this "Uhu" has got a so called "Liegeplatz-Tarnung" (Airfield-Hiding-Camo) of RLM 83 dark-green sprayed over the RLM 75/76 camouflage. " I am sorry but RLM 83 is dark blue.The dark green most probably is a variation of RLM 82. Saluti Giampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdna Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, GiampieroSilvestri said: I am sorry but RLM 83 is dark blue.The dark green most probably is a variation of RLM 82. Saluti Giampiero Troy is simply quoting from the 2016 article. Hence the quotation marks.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFlyHalf Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I'd paint it in a standard RLM75 overall covered in lots and lots of small dots of invisible ink. Camouflage ? Spot me if you can ? 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: I have always thought the point of what if it was that you could do it however you liked. 🤔 It is. However, I suffer from a lack of imagination when it comes to German whiffery. SonI try to base myself in something real, such as the Bf 110G-4s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 12 hours ago, Alan P said: I used to download a three-view line drawing of my chosen subject and just open it in MS Paint Man, I was so tired yesterday that didn't think on downloading an MS Paint app. I'm just doing what you did. Great success! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, Werdna said: In 1946, the 'Whif RLM' identified neon yellow and luminous pink as the most effective nightfighter colours, applied in diagonal stripes. Prove me wrong.... Pink would suit sunset operations. Pink and orange. And some blue. Silver/white for the clouds. Maybe a green flash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 13 hours ago, Ed Russell said: Ooooh no! RLM 85, RLM 86, RLM 87, RLM 88 and RLM 99 are strictly controlled colours!. If any of them ain't pink, I ain't going! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 RLM 85 (dunkel rosafarben), RLM 86 (mittelrosa), RLM 87 (leuchtend rosa), RLM 88 (grau rosa) and RLM 99 (gelb rosafarben) Forgive me for not taking Luft46 and whatifs seriously. However, to my shame, I have made several, some on here! Example https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234986347-fieseler-167-two-builds-the-fi167f-fantasy-and-the-fi167-reality/ 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdna Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 There's a whole new genre opening up here - I like it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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