200 years of railways 1825-2025 27 Sept '25- 18 Jan '26

[Mjwomack]

On 8/2/2024 at 9:51 AM, Mark Newton said:

My Japanese cameo is 1/80th scale on 16.5mm gauge track - what’s known as #16 scale in Japan. The other cameo is inspired by the narrow gauge railways of the Belgian Congo, and is HOn30.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark.

So far in my life, I've resisted the train whistle of narrow gauge, but if @bianfuxia's proposed

Makes it as a peacenik through the carnage of the bunfight then I think the urge of a 60cm gauge WW1 trench railway repurposed onto the Lincolnshire potato railways will be too strong!

[2996 Victor]

22 hours ago, Mjwomack said:

Sir, with that profile picture you were always going to participate! Welcome aboard,

TBH since his Emmenence the incredibly trim and agile controller gave us the green light, I've stopped updating the list. As we're fast line, non--stop through bunfight central

Excellent, thank you! I won't be building my profile picture, though, not with that valve gear!

 

Depending on how long we have, I did think perhaps a 4mm/OO micro layout..... Probably being way too ambitious as usual!

 

Cheers,

Mark

[2996 Victor]

22 hours ago, Mjwomack said:

a 60cm gauge WW1 trench railway repurposed onto the Lincolnshire potato railways will be too strong!

There were quite a number of narrow gauge light railways that sprang up in the post-WW1 period using ex-WD equipment. Not necessarily the lightweight track, but certainly locos and rolling stock. These spring readily to mind:

 

Ashover Light Railway

Snailbeach District Tramway

Glyn Valley Tramway

Welsh Highland Railway

Nocton Estates Railway.

 

The Oakwood Press used to publish a Locomotion Paper on the Lincolnshire Potato Railways. The Oakwood Press titles are now published by Stenlake, although not all of them are in print.

 

Cheers, 

Mark

[2996 Victor]

22 hours ago, Mjwomack said:

Lincolnshire potato railways

Looks like it's still in print - link 

 

Cheers,

Mark

[Mjwomack]

1 hour ago, 2996 Victor said:

Probably being way too ambitious as usual!

I knew I wasn't alone!

I think the 'Embrace the madness' strap-line' on the Bunfight sub-forum applies to the whole GB section for me!

 

1 hour ago, 2996 Victor said:

Looks like it's still in print - link 

 

Cheers,

Mark

That's the very book, was fascinated by the topic when it first came out, but resisted the urge, however the other year I picked up a second hand copy for a pound, and that went to the North Norfolk Railway in any case- win-win!

[bootneck]

Hello Michael,

 

I have been learning CAD, via on-line tutorials and videos and 'think' that I am just breaking out of basic and into intermediate.  This GB could be just the platform I need, to test my progress, by drawing, printing and building a home-made steam loco.  I still have a few months to learn and practice more and hope to be ready for the start.  As I mentioned to BMrs in another build, I know nothing about trains, I just like looking at them; therefore my build will be based around plans and photos but not actual knowledge. 

 

I intend, hopefully, to build a British steam loco in a large scale, possibly around 1/32 scale, of something that is not currently available in plastic or resin kit form.

 

cheers,
Mike

[Mjwomack]

2 minutes ago, bootneck said:

I know nothing about trains, I just like looking at them;

Welcome  Mike, and that is absolutely a good enough reason to get a FREE ticket for this GB excursion.

Everyone loves trains (they just don't know it) and this GB is for all things railway so it can be infrastructure and equipment as much as rolling stock; it would be possible to enter a Dragon Rapide for sure, or a bus or a boat.

 

But some 3D printing would be very exciting, I expect some cardboard will appear so all the media (?pl). could appear at the festival of all things choo-choo

[bootneck]

Thanks Michael,

 

I am already practicing for the future with this WiP of a 3D printed Coronation class at 1:35 scale; however, over 60% of those 3D files have been produced for me.  With your GB, I hope to have learned enough about CAD  to make a complete 3D printed model, from design to display, of my own.  I quite fancy doing something like this:

 

cheers,

 

Mike

 

Time to start looking for plans and photos.  

[Paul821]

51 minutes ago, bootneck said:

Thanks Michael,

 

I am already practicing for the future with this WiP of a 3D printed Coronation class at 1:35 scale; however, over 60% of the 3D files have been produced for me.  With your GB, I hope to have learned enough about CAD  to make a complete 3D printed model, from design to display, of my own.  I quite fancy doing something like this:

 

cheers,

 

Mike

I

Time to start looking for plans and photos.  

Hopefully nothing less than the whole train and track. 😂

[bootneck]

28 minutes ago, Paul821 said:

Hopefully nothing less than the whole train and track. 😂

    I don't think the room in my little bungalow is big enough for that!

[Bullbasket]

1 hour ago, bootneck said:

Coronation class at 1:35 scale

I would love to see that. One of my favourite locos. I've been on enough trains as a kid, between Euston and Glasgow hauled by various members of the class.  Streamlined casing or not?

 

John.

[bootneck]

2 minutes ago, Bullbasket said:

 Streamlined casing or not?

What's one of them?

[Mjwomack]

35 minutes ago, Paul821 said:

Hopefully nothing less than the whole train and track. 😂

Clearly you've been listening to the collected speeches of our great leaders😄

[Mjwomack]

46 minutes ago, bootneck said:

What's one of them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Coronation_Class 

 

The first photo is rebuilt with the streamline casing removed, the second photo is that 'as built' version with the streamlined- smoother casing on the boiler. Complex curves, but what a looker and possibly easier in 3D printing as less pokey out bits (as if I know!)

2 hours ago, bootneck said:

Thanks Michael,

 

I am already practicing for the future with this WiP of a 3D printed Coronation class at 1:35 scale; however, over 60% of those 3D files have been produced for me.  With your GB, I hope to have learned enough about CAD  to make a complete 3D printed model, from design to display, of my own.  I quite fancy doing something like this:

 

cheers,

 

Mike

 

Time to start looking for plans and photos.  

With no idea at all about 3D printing, I'd guess that this is easier as it's a simpler shape.

[bootneck]

 

3 minutes ago, Mjwomack said:

The first photo is rebuilt with the streamline casing removed, the second photo is that 'as built' version with the streamlined

Ah!  I thought bullbasket was referring to the pannier.

cheers,

Mike

[Bullbasket]

I never saw one with the streamlined casing, as I think that it was removed soon after the war. But my preference is for them when they were rebuilt. They were a handsome looking loco and really deserved their 8P power classification.

 

John.

[Enzo the Magnificent]

4 hours ago, bootneck said:

I intend, hopefully, to build a British steam loco in a large scale, possibly around 1/32 scale, of something that is not currently available in plastic or resin kit form.

 

 

*cough*  Claughton. *cough*

[Enzo the Magnificent]

37 minutes ago, Bullbasket said:

I never saw one with the streamlined casing, as I think that it was removed soon after the war. But my preference is for them when they were rebuilt. They were a handsome looking loco and really deserved their 8P power classification.

 

A number of them were built without the streamlined casing.  They were informally known as the City class.  You can always tell a streamliner which has had its casing removed because of the odd downward curved shape of the smoke box in front of the chimney.

[bootneck]

 

20 minutes ago, Enzo the Magnificent said:

*cough*  Claughton. *cough*

Too big and complicated to get finished within a GB timeframe.  I am currently building a Coronation class at 1:35 and, even with the help of @PeteH1969, it is taking weeks to work out and produce all the complex parts from scratch.

 

16 minutes ago, Enzo the Magnificent said:

You can always tell a streamliner which has had its casing removed because of the odd downward curved shape of the smoke box in front of the chimney.

Do you have a photo of that part?  I'm not sure of what is meant by that.

 

cheers,
Mike

[Mjwomack]

1 hour ago, bootneck said:

 

Too big and complicated to get finished within a GB timeframe.  I am currently building a Coronation class at 1:35 and, even with the help of @PeteH1969, it is taking weeks to work out and produce all the complex parts from scratch.

 

Do you have a photo of that part?  I'm not sure of what is meant by that.

 

cheers,
Mike

Thew problem was Mike that I could understand what @Enzo the Magnificent was saying but not how to explain it, then I fund this

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/8p-46220-46257-4-6-2-lms-stanier-princess-coronation-or-duchess/ 

 

Follow the top line between the chimney or funnel (as per your nationality) and the front of the smokebox and it should make sense

 

HTH

 

[Paul821]

Any discussion about details of loco's leads to the same answer - find as many images of the loco you wish to model. These photos need to be dated both between the workshop dates either side of the modelled date. Alsotake into account anylivery or numbering changes. The LMS Pacific's are a case in point as the Wikipedia entry shows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Coronation_Class.

 

Or you could just say if it looks like a particular loco then that's ok.

 

[bootneck]

That's quite informative, thank you.  The Coronation that I am currently building is 6235/46325 City of Birmingham which would be a de-streamlined but without the slopey firebox.

 

15 minutes ago, Paul821 said:

Any discussion about details of loco's leads to the same answer - find as many images of the loco you wish to model. These photos need to be dated both between the workshop dates either side of the modelled date. Alsotake into account anylivery or numbering changes.

I am quite fortunate in that the City of Birmingham still exists, at the Science Park in Birmingham; therefore, visual information is still available and I just need to get up to Brum to take photos..  My interest in it is that I saw it being delivered to the earlier Science Museum back in the 1960s.

 

Which is all rather irrelevant as I won't be building this for the GB.

cheers,
Mike

[Bullbasket]

Here you go Mike. Just to let you know what it looks like, 6229 Duchess of Hamilton. The front of the smoke boxes were made like that because of the slope of the streamlining.

 

John.

[bootneck]

Thanks John,

Mike

[Mjwomack]

35 minutes ago, bootneck said:

That's quite informative, thank you.  The Coronation that I am currently building is 6235/46325 City of Birmingham which would be a de-streamlined but without the slopey firebox.

 

I am quite fortunate in that the City of Birmingham still exists, at the Science Park in Birmingham; therefore, visual information is still available and I just need to get up to Brum to take photos..  My interest in it is that I saw it being delivered to the earlier Science Museum back in the 1960s.

 

Which is all rather irrelevant as I won't be building this for the GB.

cheers,
Mike

That's a cracking diorama right there -love the detail of the bloke leaning against the wheel- a very well planned mode!