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Spot of the day - Part 7


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6 hours ago, Tyas said:

MX-5-based? Looks like a windshield frame from NB MX-5.

So... an MX-250.

 

2 hours ago, Farmer matt said:

Its registered as a 1999 'BMW Tribute 250'.

Which a bit more goggling reveals as being Z3 based.

 

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Well it had me fooled !! 

Gary

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The Gilbern Invader was an impressive bit of kit, as was it's predecessor the Genie.  The Tribute 250 was a really well designed and built kitcar, one of the best around at the time.  It was indeed Z3-based and IMHO the ideal mix of BMW mechanicals and a decent elegant old-school bodyshell as opposed to the testosterone-special BMW one.

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The deception is aided by the location. You would be half expecting, and indeed wanting, to see something special. 

Its still a nice looking car, far more attractive than its donor, and probably a lot less grief to own than an original 250. If it wasn't for the Irish plates probably a lot more people would be taken in, certainly if it was just passing by. Its not as if you fall over 250s every day to compare it with.

The drawback I feel in some ways is that if someone is lucky enough to be driving around in a proper rarity, they probably have to spend half their time convincing sceptics that its not a kit.

 

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2 hours ago, Farmer matt said:

The deception is aided by the location. You would be half expecting, and indeed wanting, to see something special. 

Its still a nice looking car, far more attractive than its donor, and probably a lot less grief to own than an original 250. If it wasn't for the Irish plates probably a lot more people would be taken in, certainly if it was just passing by. Its not as if you fall over 250s every day to compare it with.

The drawback I feel in some ways is that if someone is lucky enough to be driving around in a proper rarity, they probably have to spend half their time convincing sceptics that its not a kit.

 

Matt

Great analysis Matt ! Your right in suggesting I was expecting it to be the real thing because this particular stretch of road , the A170 from Thirsk to Scarborough passing the now very famous Mathewsons , has always been a magnet for classic cars , more so this week with the weather we've got . 

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Back to dashcam quality shots, but here's one I saw on the way back from work this evening.

 

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I've got to admit I can never tell the difference between an XK120 and an XK140 though. But not often you see either away from a museum or car show.

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The star of the "IAA mobility 2023" in Munich:
Porsche Mission X.

 

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I think this is one of those cars the production of which is sold out before they even start it. If ever they will produce the Mission X.

 

And this one is more conventional. When taking the photos I had a conversation with another guy admiring the car. And then he told me that he owns a 911 himself and is driving the car from time to time. Lucky man.

 

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It looks like Porsche has completely lost the plot to me.

No doubt the Transformer franchise will pick up on it. But, come on, sit it next to that red 911 and it starts to look ridiculous. It can probably be tuned by a bloke on mars with a laptop and exceed 200MPH but sat next to the pure simplicity of the early 911 it looks daft.

 

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On 9/7/2023 at 5:44 AM, Spiny said:

Back to dashcam quality shots, but here's one I saw on the way back from work this evening.

 

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I've got to admit I can never tell the difference between an XK120 and an XK140 though. But not often you see either away from a museum or car show.

I think that's an XK120. The '140 had fewer grille slats, spaced more widely apart.

1 hour ago, TonyW said:

It looks like Porsche has completely lost the plot to me.

No doubt the Transformer franchise will pick up on it. But, come on, sit it next to that red 911 and it starts to look ridiculous. It can probably be tuned by a bloke with a laptop on mars and exceed 200MPH but sat next to the pure simplicity of the early 911 it looks daft.

 

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Hear, hear!!

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I'm definately of an age where I'll moan at just about anything, but this one has really got me shouting at clouds.

A car that will almost certainly be faster than the driver, and equiped to save him from him/her/ they /self to boot, isn't my idea of progress, improvement, fun, or anything other than a cynical money grab while it lasts.

The sun seems to me to be setting on the whole car concept and the manufacturers seem to be determined to hasten the demise. An overpowered Morris Minor would give everything the nutter X offers for the driver withhout upsetting the tree huggers.

 

Rant ends.

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8 hours ago, TonyW said:

The sun seems to me to be setting on the whole car concept

 

I think it  might be more that the sun is setting on the enthusiastic driver concept? I'm looking at changing my 2009 Grand Vitara (a car that despite its looks and bulk you can have much fun in!) and it's new model replacement is loaded with 'tech'  - things like hill start assist - I'm sorry if you can't do a hill start you don't get a licence, lane departure warning - you can't stay alert enough to keep the car in your lane? - you don't get a licence, etc etc. 

 

I suppose it's always been the case that the vast majority of 'drivers' just see the car as a means of transport from A to B, but all manufacturers now seem to want to dumb down driving to the simplest way of systems operating - probably leading to the inevitable wholesale addoption of driverless electric cars...!! 

 

And tbh, when you say;

 

11 hours ago, TonyW said:

come on, sit it next to that red 911 and it starts to look ridiculous. It can probably be tuned by a bloke on mars with a laptop and exceed 200MPH....

 

...can you not also say that about the latest generation 911GT3 RS - don't get me wrong I love every generation of 911, but the latest cars are like chalk and cheese when compared to the purity of an original, long bonnet car....  :)

 

I guess it comes down to Porsche, like all other manufacturers, has to adapt to survive?

 

Keith

 

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The increase in ( largely irritating to most of us) tech is partly down to 'health and safety', but seems to overlook the fact that as a result many people now seem to have no concept of how to actually drive, which can only be dangerous. Just input your destination, listen to the prompts, wonder what a couple of bongs were for, arrive.

Read the road ahead? Anticipate the actions of others? Adjust your driving to the conditions?

Sorry mate, no buttons for those, so they don't happen.

 

Sorry for thread drift rant.

Matt

 

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54 minutes ago, Farmer matt said:

'health and safety'

Safety yes but i'm not sure about the health bit,every time i look under the bonnet or get in a modern car my son's got a 5 year old Fiesta and see all the unnecesssary gizmos and electronic rubbish my blood pressure goes through the roof.....

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1 hour ago, Farmer matt said:

The increase in ( largely irritating to most of us) tech is partly down to 'health and safety', 

 

Which is ridiculously ironic when manufacturers are allowed to put stupid touch screens in allowing you to change functions like ventilation, change the radio station, and numerous other things that can far more easily and safely be done by traditional knobs and switches! Talk on your mobile phone whilst looking at the road ahead - illegal, head down going through numerous menus trying to turn the fan off - that's fine and dandy!!

 

Keith

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To keep the thread on course, here's a spot of the day from me. A bit of a cheat though, as it's sat on my drive. I did spot it just now, while walking through the garden.

 

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A '70 Morris Minor.  The latest addition to the fleet a short time ago, bought as an antidote to all the modern doohickery bells and whistles that I find so irritating. It will be used as a daily.

It's about as eco friendly as you can get. Already built, so no energy input into manufacture. Light weight, skinny tyres and a tiny but highly tunable A series engine to keep things fun at low relative speeds.

Tax free, very low insurance rates and smiles from Joe Public while it's trundeling around.

It can be fixed with a lump hammer and bailing wire and won't loose a penny in value as long as I keep the maintainance up. If there's a fault to the plan, I havn't found it yet. If I find I need a bit more load space, I'll chop it in against a Traveller.

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