1/72 & 1/48 - Bréguet XIX resin kits by Grand models - 3D renders+1/72 parts

[Homebee]

Next Grand models resin kits are Bréguet XIX, first in 1/72nd and later in 1/48th scale.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/christos.koutalianos.9/posts/pfbid0LfZYYxBmB3xfJzpYTZnVcpewzkSdmouoGQ82M4oTnsu8ymerTJvPNGgEXJHziGqpl

 

 

 

 

V.P.

 

Edited April 13, 2024 by Homebee

[gunpowder17]

How is it actually pronounced?  Ive heard bri gay , and brij way.

[Graham Boak]

I pronounce it Braygay.  Or possibly Bregay.   I've never heard a Frenchman pronounce it, but I'm pretty sure that's how it was used in my Warton days on the Jaguar programme.  It is certainly the usual pronounciation of an "et" ending.  It is quite possible that it varies depending what part of France it comes from: not everyone speaks the Parisien dialect.

[ChristianK]

This is how the French pronounce it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tz5PUiOsDs

 

Cheers,

Christian

[JWM]

3 hours ago, ChristianK said:

This is how the French pronounce it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tz5PUiOsDs

I hear "BREGE" 

The new kit of Breguet XIX in 1/72 sounds exciting for me. I wish injected, but perhaps the resin will be nice to work with. I have two build from Polish Hit-Kit, but I 'd like two more

Cheers

J-W

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by JWM

[MarkoZG]

Given how silly looking their Potez XXV was, I wouldn't lay too much hope in this kit, rather wait for Special Hobby/Frrom to release their.

[28ZComeback]

I cannot wait for the 1/48 kit. I would love to see 1/48 A2 for the Royal Hellenic Air Force. 

Edited July 23, 2023 by 28ZComeback

[gunpowder17]

Interesting looking plane. I must admit i have not heard of this manufacturer

[28ZComeback]

7 hours ago, MarkoZG said:

Given how silly looking their Potez XXV was, I wouldn't lay too much hope in this kit, rather wait for Special Hobby/Frrom to release their.

Ok has Special Hobby announced a XIX? Also the Potez 25 came out in 2017 as I recall. Technology has changed since then, so hope grows.  Thank you.  

Edited July 23, 2023 by 28ZComeback

[KRK4m]

From my point of view, this is not welcome news...

Again, part of the market will be clogged with it, which pushes away the chance for a decent injection model of this aircraft, for which I have been waiting for many years, by the next months or years.

It is one of the last four aircraft missing to close my 1:72 collection - the others are La-9, Ki-21-2 (waiting for ICM) and Farman F.40.

Well, hope dies last.

Cheers

Michael

[28ZComeback]

30 minutes ago, KRK4m said:

From my point of view, this is not welcome news...

Again, part of the market will be clogged with it, which pushes away the chance for a decent injection model of this aircraft, for which I have been waiting for many years, by the next months or years.

It is one of the last four aircraft missing to close my 1:72 collection - the others are La-9, Ki-21-2 (waiting for ICM) and Farman F.40.

Well, hope dies last.

Cheers

Michael

I don't think Special Hobby or anyone else is too concerned with Grandmodels.  

[Paul Thompson]

Well, the Freightdog/Grand Puma engined Airco DH4 conversion was a welcome and interesting beastie, with a few rough edges but nothing too problematic, and generally accurate (and in the context of the thread, I'm referring to the Grand supplied components). Having built but not quite finished models of various engined versions of the Breguet XIX by HitKit , Airmodel, and that French resin company I always forget the name of, in 1/72nd, I'll be glad to see what they make of it, although for my purposes 1/72nd will be adequate.  And I'm not into ignoring a new model just because I hope there will eventually be a better one comes along, 'cos it may never happen, although I understand the point about deterence.

 

 

Paul.

[JWM]

I was corresponding with Frrom about possibility of their release of Breguet XIX.  They would love to do this but the problem is in the lack of verified and detailed documentation. So my ask to all BM forum members is: DO YOU KNOW A VERIFIED DRAWINGS of Breguet XIX (any engine variant) - if yes please offer it to Frrom... (I hope @Gilles_53 do not mind, that I am writing this...)

Regards

J-W

 

 

[Pameinos]

It is known that "verified detailed drawings" do not exist.

Possibly engineering/construction drawings may be found if you are brave enough to fight the laziness and bureaucracy of the Armee de l' air museum. The two surviving examples are special racer versions of the Breguet XIX, not useful to 3D scan but can be used to take some measurements. You need an aviation engineer/historian who can study/interpret construction drawings and measurements,  then pass the info and survey the job of the 3D artist who will design the mold. Who can afford this? Tamiya maybe...

At least Frrom are not so naive as Grand is...

Edited July 23, 2023 by Pameinos

[John Thompson]

12 hours ago, KRK4m said:

It is one of the last four aircraft missing to close my 1:72 collection - the others are La-9, Ki-21-2 (waiting for ICM) and Farman F.40.

Well, hope dies last.

Cheers

Michael

Yes, when, oh when, will we have a decent 1/72 injected La-9? The Steelwork resin kit was very good (or so I hear), but it's no longer available, and probably never will be available again - I can't Google up the Steelwork web site any more, so I guess he's no longer active. The Siga and Gran ones are pretty rough, and the MPM kit is hard to find, decades after it was released; one of MPM's first IM kits, IIRC. Anyway, I'm glad I'm not the only one living in hope...

 

John (Sorry for the digression!)

[Piotr Mikolajski]

5 hours ago, Pameinos said:

You need an aviation engineer/historian who can study/interpret construction drawings and measurements,  then pass the info and survey the job of the 3D artist who will design the mold. Who can afford this?

 

To be honest, such work is done far more often than it may seem. During the 3D design process, errors in 'perfect plans' come to light or construction descriptions from established authors turn out to make no sense.

[dragonlanceHR]

21 hours ago, JWM said:

I was corresponding with Frrom about possibility of their release of Breguet XIX.  They would love to do this but the problem is in the lack of verified and detailed documentation. So my ask to all BM forum members is: DO YOU KNOW A VERIFIED DRAWINGS of Breguet XIX (any engine variant) - if yes please offer it to Frrom... (I hope @Gilles_53 do not mind, that I am writing this...)

Regards

J-W

 

 

Is he British? A nice way of saying no without saying no.

[dragonlanceHR]

13 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said:

 

To be honest, such work is done far more often than it may seem. During the 3D design process, errors in 'perfect plans' come to light or construction descriptions from established authors turn out to make no sense.

^this. There are no perfect plans. What there is is plethora of photos and I applaud anyone who has a go at this bird.

Cheers,

Vedran

[JWM]

On 7/23/2023 at 9:08 PM, John Thompson said:

I can't Google up the Steelwork web site any more,

I have just bumped on it : http://www.steelwork-models.de/ And it works. However, from what is on this page I cannot understand, do the offer currently any kits or not? Especially, that on YT you can bump on a review of new kit Macchi MC 41bis. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwvUsgv5kiY 

 

[Homebee]

1/72nd scale kit parts

Source: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?id=100001652861079&story_fbid=7464045450327143

 

 

V.P.

[Claes]

Was this kit for sale or was it just a fake?

[JWM]

On 4/3/2025 at 5:53 PM, Claes said:

Was this kit for sale or was it just a fake?

On their Webpage https://grandmodels.gr/el/ no trace of it, unfortunately ...

 

[Learstang]

Pity, those resin bits look rather nice. I'm with J-W on this: I'd love to have a good IM kit of this, but I'd probably buy a good resin kit of it. I used to have the old CzechMaster resin kit of it many years ago, now long gone (although I may still have the fuselage hidden somewhere).

 

Regards,

 

Jason

[JWM]

There was  Polish short run Hit-Kit IM Breguet XIX. It has bad PR but I liked it. Only the upper wing was of a too flat chord which I tried to correct.

I constructed one in CASA Lorraine "W-type"  engine and made some resin  copies  of parts and scratching to do Breguet 19.8 with Cyclone of Yugoslavian production.

 

 

 But I still have a demand to do next two - with Jupiter Croatian (or rather ex-Croatian red partisan)  and a Greek one. Maybe even for the third - from Spanish Republican side... 

Regards

J-W

 

[Paul Thompson]

20 minutes ago, JWM said:

There was  Polish short run Hit-Kit IM Breguet XIX. It has bad PR but I liked it. Only the upper wing was of a too flat chord which I tried to correct.

I constructed one in CASA Lorraine "W-type"  engine and made some resin  copies  of parts and scratching to do Breguet 19.8 with Cyclone of Yugoslavian production.

 

 

 But I still have a demand to do next two - with Jupiter Croatian (or rather ex-Croatian red partisan)  and a Greek one. Maybe even for the third - from Spanish Republican side... 

Regards

J-W

 

Nice, and at least you finished them. Mine is still a work in progress, 20 years after I started it. Were your decals okay?

 

Paul.