Backyard Mig - Entropy GB

[Mark Cassidy]

Folks, 

 

This is my first group build so am a bit new to how it all works. I saw this image on reddit and fell in love with it, I would love to know where this Mig actually is, I've decided its Russian but it might be a Chinese J/F-6 . 

 

 

Im going to use some artistic licence, Im swapping out the Mig-19 for a Mig-15 having read the build reviews of the one Mig-19 I could find online. I've went for Eduard's weekender Mig-15 in 1/72. Im intending to try a number of new techniques with this build. First am going to try and make my own corrugated fence out of old coke cans, next am going to try and do a brick wall from blue foam, and third am going to make an outhouse from coffee stirrers.   

 

Am thinking of building a dio with 2 or possible 3 sides, one with the Fence, one with the brick wall and the third possibly with the buildings. I also considering printing up a jet engine to lie abandoned next to the Mig. 

 

Any thoughts tips or hints then please share.

[Trevor L]

That's an interesting setting.

It's unusual, but who wouldn't like an aircraft in their garden!?

[Marklo]

Should be good. Welcome to the GB.

 

Just build your model, post images as you go especially of anything significant or particularly interesting. When your done take a few (hopefully) high quality photos of the build and post them along with a link to the build thread on the gallery and that’s pretty much it.

 

One thought, coke cans are easy enough to work, a tin snips or a good scissors will cut them, but unless you anneal them they are very springy and hard to get to hold a bend.  I’d recommend takeaway foil containers, much more malleable and can be picked up in Tesco or Dealz quite cheaply. If you make a form from wood or plastic you can then just planing the foil over it to make nice consistent panels.

 

This is technique I used for the corrugated panels on the J6 and should work well for corrugated iron  in 1/72.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Marklo

[Mark Cassidy]

That's a brilliant idea mate thanks I did see someone use a tooth paste tube squeezer to di corrugated sheets , but I will try ur technique first mate. I only really need them flat , like the sheets u get in a roof, am not brave enough to try bends and curves yet lol 

 

I will be sure to keep you up to date.

[Muchmirth]

Great entry. Looks promising, plus that kit choice should be good. 
   To put my 2 pence worth in. I’d stick with just too sides of the dio otherwise you might risk encasing the model in the middle, which may take away viewing points but it’s your build and you do what you like most. 
 Best of luck! 
Paul

[Bobby No Mac]

Welcome along to the Wrecking Crew, that's an awesome reference pic. I feel that Soviet subjects are perfect for a bit of entropy. Best of luck with your build 😎

[Mark Cassidy]

12 hours ago, Muchmirth said:

Great entry. Looks promising, plus that kit choice should be good. 
   To put my 2 pence worth in. I’d stick with just too sides of the dio otherwise you might risk encasing the model in the middle, which may take away viewing points but it’s your build and you do what you like most. 
 Best of luck! 
Paul

Paul

 

Mate thanks am beginning to think 2 sides i ambitious enough mate thanks. 

 

I want to try like a burnt effect on the corrugated fence and some graffiti , that will be a first for me lol so I think a fence with a wall and partial bit of a building. 

 

I've nearly cleared 1 of 2 dios I have on the bench, I have some blue foam on order for later this week so hopefully next weekend i will get started. 

[Mark Cassidy]

20 minutes ago, Bobby No Mac said:

Welcome along to the Wrecking Crew, that's an awesome reference pic. I feel that Soviet subjects are perfect for a bit of entropy. Best of luck with your build 😎

Me too, there's so much stuff lying around that country seemingly in a state of decay , its brilliant. I would love to know the back story to that mig, but it seems there is only that one reddit image and that reddit has closed down .

[Mark Cassidy]

So calamity struck in one sense today somehow I managed to split my nozzle on my airbrush and since am still waiting for the blue foam to start the buildings I have been trying to do what I can , I started scratch building the outhouse today, I took Marklos advice and also found a video on you tube about making tin sheets as well. I think it worked really well, the outhouse was built with stirrers liberated from Starbucks lol 

 

I think it looks reasonable, its a little larger that the true 1/72 scale, but I think it works

 

Next steps, so I need to 3d print a water bucket that I am going to fill with putrid algae laden water, or resin lol, I also was thinking of scratch building a pallet , I wanna print a wheel barrow and a barrel, and I want to add some mould or green slime growing up the walls.

 

Im thinking ahead here but... has anyone done flat tyres on aircraft before, am not talking bulged, I mean this mig has been sitting years in the same place.  and tips or hints, I have some wheels in the spares box I can practice techniques on. 

 

Im also thinking too about how to dent the drop tanks, they always seem to get battered to hell I suspect people climb up on them. I wondered about heating the plastic then denting it somehow.

[Trevor L]

Nice outhouse, and good to see Starbucks has some practical use.

Re flat tyres, I put a little guide in my build for rubber tyres.

I haven't tried the method before, but I'm going to give it a go.

 

For plastic tyres you could cut away the bottom part then use filler to create a bulging flat area.

 

[Muchmirth]

Nice outhouse, the rusty roof looks good! 
  With the putrid water, to save a few bucks I’d tint some clear gloss varnish with greens or browns to make murky water (cheaper than resin for a 1/72 bucket). 
  With the tyres I was actually going to suggest Trevor’s build above as would look really good. Alternatively if the tyre is hollow ive seen someone put a screw into the under side of the wheel and tighten it to the solid leg which holds the wheel. 
   With regards to the dents if you have multi tool/dremel then thinning the plastic from the inside before assembly and then a bit of pushing from the opposite side may dent it nicely. If you don’t have a mutitool then sanding/filing by hand and maybe a very gentle flick from a lighter may make it dent.

Paul

[Marklo]

Love the outhouse.
 

Toilet paper and pva are actually good for water effects.

 

 

[Retired Bob]

13 hours ago, Mark Cassidy said:

Im also thinking too about how to dent the drop tanks, they always seem to get battered to hell I suspect people climb up on them. I wondered about heating the plastic then denting it somehow.

I use sprue goo as a filler (small bits of sprue melted in Tamiya thin glue) I've noticed that when a lot of this is used inside a radome so that I can file and change the shape, the plastic becomes soft for a while, at this stage you could push it in to make dents.  It's worth an experiment, using heat would be difficult, there is such a fine line between the plastic getting soft and starting to burn.

[Muchmirth]

44 minutes ago, Retired Bob said:

I use sprue goo as a filler (small bits of sprue melted in Tamiya thin glue) I've noticed that when a lot of this is used inside a radome so that I can file and change the shape, the plastic becomes soft for a while, at this stage you could push it in to make dents.  It's worth an experiment, using heat would be difficult, there is such a fine line between the plastic getting soft and starting to burn.

Actually Mark, Bob is right don’t use heat… it’s a bit too risky and the effect can’t be controlled that easily.

Paul

Edited July 5, 2023 by Muchmirth
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[Mark Cassidy]

Guys thanks so much I messed around with a spares tyre in a pan with water that didn't pan out too good so am going to try the other method and see how I get on and will update you all.

 

I have a dremel like tool, and I will give that a bash. On that note I saw a video of a guy thinning mud guards for a rusty vintage car build it was like a ancient Ford pickup, he thinned parts of the doors as well from the inside with a dremmel and from the outside it looked that way where holes were rusted through , like just a bit and no more, it was really effective technique.

 

I will also give the glue softened dropbtank a try I have a few of those lying around too. 

 

I like the video on water effects I do have some vallejo still water , so I will experiment and see how I get on. 

 

 

Thanks again guys really appreciate your help

 

Mark

 

 

[Mark Cassidy]

So a wee update, and I do mean wee lol 

 

It weirdly doesnt look like much that I have done but it seemed to eat up a crazy amount of time. 

 

So I finished the toilet and realised I needed a door for the toilet, so built painted and weathered that. I also got some candy floss stick fence posts and coffee stirrer fence slats. I had it all done and then realised I had scaled it to be as big as a house lol so pulled it to bits and did the rough maths and think i got it reasonable right, the posts will need trimmed when I go to set it in place.  I also started the process of creating tin sheets for the fence as well.  I intend to have the fence partly old weathered slats and corrugated rusty tin sheets, I want to pull up the tin sheet showing how the "kids" have been getting in to the yard. 

 

Im intending to do some stuff with the fence once completed, first I want to stick an oil barrel next to it thats been set on fire and its spread and burned or charred part of the fence. Second I want to add some graffiti tags on the fence where the bored teens have been in and messing around, drinking and getting high.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I finally managed after much messing around with resin to get the bucket exactly the way I wanted it, I used vallejo still water about 3 times and somehow it seemed to evaporate and climb up the side and leave a weird bubble in the bottom, rather than drying level, so after the third attempt at it I got fed up and tried some clear resin for the 3D printer, I hardened it with a UV torch and then I added some of hobbycrafts acrylic green ink thats a proper putrid green, like just the colour of algae and then i added a pinhead amount of yellow whilst it was still wet so I hop I have managed to capture it reasonably well a scummy algae encrusted bucket. 

 

 

 

Ive been thinking about what to add in like accessories wise , and I found some 3d files for shovels , axes I also wanted to add some symbolism into the dio, so I decided to get a bust of stalin printed up and I am going to attempt to complete it where its started to corrode into that lovely blue colour, I want to give the impression that its been dumped there a long time ago and forgotten. That will let me try the new technique to me of drybrushing highlights. The next thing I wanted to add was a more modern twist and I decided that I would add an abandoned washing machine into the yard like its just been dumped there. and perhaps one or two other subtle nods to current events. 

 

I did consider a rusted out lada shell but dont have the space. 

 

The best news is though , my order of model foam sheets is awaiting my collection so I will hopefully get those Sunday and this will let me get to grips with the building and the brick wall.

 

Lastly a bit of advice, I am looking for a couple of 1/72 car or truck tyres, has anyone come across them? I have looked at 3D printing them but they are all solid and that I kinda need them hollow, I did consider doing them in a 3d printed silicone mould but that seemed a right pain, anyone any suggestions? If they are out of scale that ok 1/35 land rover tyres can become 1/72 dumper truck tyres for example.

 

Anyway sorry thats so long 

 

Regards 

 

Mark

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Mark Cassidy

[Bobby No Mac]

Cracking progress, Mark. I'm loving the corrugated metal.

 

On 08/07/2023 at 00:43, Mark Cassidy said:

I am looking for a couple of 1/72 car or truck tyres, has anyone come across them?

 

A cheap option could be rubber O rings used in plumbing, like these.

 

I'm pretty sure that's the set I got a long time ago for reasons long since forgotten. This is how the smallest two sizes compare with a 1/72 pilot:

 

 

 

[Mark Cassidy]

8 minutes ago, Bobby No Mac said:

Cracking progress, Mark. I'm loving the corrugated metal.

 

 

A cheap option could be rubber O rings used in plumbing, like these.

 

I'm pretty sure that's the set I got a long time ago for reasons long since forgotten. This is how the smallest two sizes compare with a 1/72 pilot:

 

 

 

That's a billy bonus idea mate I hadn't thought of that one. Cheers. 

 

I should say I fortunately came across AKs book on weathered wood and having read the sections on how to weather fencing I am going to try a couple of techniques I've seen in there today on my fence. Can't wait to see how I get on.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Mark Cassidy

[Mark Cassidy]

So todays update, today was fencing and walls kinda day. I got the chance to try out the foam that arrived yesterday. I got the 30mm thick stuff and to be honest its to thick so when I get some more I will definitely get the 20mm stuff. I cut the stuff I have in half to thin it a  bit and I will back it with MDF. The wall was trickier than I thought to get right, I messed up by not counting the bricks and I didnt get them all equally spaced lines, thats something to improve on. 

 

So I watched a couple of videos on you tube and gave it a go. 

 

 

 

After ruling out the bricks I used some balled foil and then imprinted it in the brick work, then I dug out some bricks and pushed some back in. 

 

 

 

A coat of burnt umber and viola, am not sure if it needs another coat or if I can just start to do highlight bricks 

 

 

On the fence front I got it all painted and washed with  brown oils, I made a mistake of building the frame, I used a glue gun to stick the frame together, glued in the frames I intended to char and then it went a bit wrong, when I started burning the slats of the fence, everything ended up disasembling itself in a stick mess. so next time I will char first build second.  I think I managed to get it back though. The corrugated sheets am going to redo with the airbrush, the paint lifts at the slightest touch which is a pain.  So I have two ideas on toying with , 1 is a bit of graffiti scrawled across it in Russian or some really old soviet style really badly faded posters espousing some "new soviet man" type slogan. 

 

Any thoughts would be welcome 

 

 

 

It needs weathered with some green slimy mould like the toilet. 

 

So I played around with the layout today, I realise that I have overscaled the buildings , so I need to either trim the lower ed of the wall to create a greater height differential between the two.  To be fair the intention is that the ground will be significantly raise  anyways. 

 

 

 

Next steps is to start the buildings that the white foam will become. 

 

Regards

 

[Trevor L]

Good progress, with some nice effects created.

[Muchmirth]

Shaping up!

[Marklo]

I get the overall feeling that you’re enjoying the build, and I think it shows in the work so far. Looking forward to seeing it progress.

[Mark Cassidy]

4 hours ago, Marklo said:

I get the overall feeling that you’re enjoying the build, and I think it shows in the work so far. Looking forward to seeing it progress.

I definitely am thanks, I think it is down to the fact that I am pushing myself and trying new techniques and things, and also I have "saved up" my entropy dio ideas since at least December last year waiting for the group build to start. 

 

So yeah I think I am lol

[Mark Cassidy]

HELP!

 

So I need some advice, if I may, I following a video tutorial, on building a wall , got it all looking good IMO , varnished it vallejo matt varnish , mixed up some tile grout with some grey and applied it, I then tried to take the grout off and it started to run and cause the brick colour to run.  What did I do wrong, did I use the wrong varnish or should I have dilluted it? how do I stop the paint underneath running off? I thought the varnish would have stopped that? should I have used say an enamel varnish instead or pledge?

 

UPDATE  I am a t🤬t, I've just realised I have a tube of oils called "brick red"  doh ! Perhaps oils are the way forward for brick walls, I think I might be able to rescue this if I touch it up and stuff after everything dries. 

 

Any thoughts ?

 

Cheeers

 

Edited July 11, 2023 by Mark Cassidy
Update

[Muchmirth]

9 minutes ago, Mark Cassidy said:

HELP!

 

So I need some advice, if I may, I following a video tutorial, on building a wall , got it all looking good IMO , varnished it vallejo matt varnish , mixed up some tile grout with some grey and applied it, I then tried to take the grout off and it started to run and cause the brick colour to run.  What did I do wrong, did I use the wrong varnish or should I have dilluted it? how do I stop the paint underneath running off? I thought the varnish would have stopped that? should I have used say an enamel varnish instead or pledge?

 

Any thoughts ?

 

Cheeers

 

Ok one thing to me it looks good. It looks just like a brick wall. In fact I’d be happy with that result. 
    If your not happy you could retouch with paint? 
    I don’t tend to varnish my XPs foam walls. Maybe steer away from enamel varnish as my be solvent enough to dissolve the foam. I usually prime my foam with water/pva or grout or polyfiller  after carving.
  Some times I use grout after paint and sometimes if happy with the look and don’t want to change it I don’t use any grout at all.
   But if I do use it I don’t wait for the paint to fully cure off, I put the grout on after an hour or so then use a baby wipe to rub it off (rubbing hard) and use the running grey grout to my advantage to unify the colours and the grey dulls down the original paint colours (as it does this I make them far to bright at the start as the grey will knock it back some). 
  check this geezer out he’s my guru: just amazing: I basically started to copy him directly. I even used his jig idea as it save a load of time:

All the best

Paul