adolfocaetanonetto Posted June 26, 2023 Posted June 26, 2023 Ahoy, Old Saiolors. After a long, long time, I return to modellers activities (with my google translate english... I always liked warsails, and a desire is the HMS Victory. But the size (70 meters, high is to much, for now...). I made my model in scratch in 1/100 scale, mainly aircraft. And the stuborn (is correct?, Who doesnt guive up?) insists with the scale. However the sails are always in my mind. So, in these days I rewacht the Pirates of the Caribbean, and the Black Pearl appeared... Oh my Lord... It was a passion. I go to the net and search a lots of images. The plans was difficult, because there are many, but the drawing that I found have poor details. Patiente, lets go anyway! The model was planned in 1/200 scale. Yes... I know... I could make the Victory in this scale. But the details... 😬 I'm crazy, but not like that! the "real" Black Pearl is 55 meters, more or less. inclued the bowstrip (my nautics knowledge is "google dependent"). The materials are mainly paper, cardboard, foam, skewers, whiteglue and superglue. This is the plans that I used. I cut the central structure and glued it in double cardboad. I was the same with the deck. In this case I already cut off the excess cardboard. Now a doubd. In portuguese, these parts are named "cavernas" (caves, in literal translation), I dont know in english. The pieces are glued in foam. Later, I cut the pieces. Finally I cut the parts fittings (I hope this correct). 15
Bandsaw Steve Posted June 26, 2023 Posted June 26, 2023 Good to see you back on these pages. I also will be watching with great interest. 1
ArnoldAmbrose Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 Gidday @adolfocaetanonetto, this will be very interesting to see come together. Sometimes words don't translate well. What you've named "cavernas" I would have named "frames" in English. There are probably other names for them too. But it doesn't really matter. I think we can all understand you and your build. Regards, Jeff. 1
Bertie McBoatface Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 This will be a very interesting project. You have made a good start. 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted June 27, 2023 Author Posted June 27, 2023 12 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday @adolfocaetanonetto, this will be very interesting to see come together. Sometimes words don't translate well. What you've named "cavernas" I would have named "frames" in English. There are probably other names for them too. But it doesn't really matter. I think we can all understand you and your build. Regards, Jeff. Hi, Ambrose. Realy I dont use the translator to "freame" (thanks for help! 😀). I think that the google dont translate correctly. So I write with the wrong word... 😁. In Brazil we say "Dei uma de João sem braço" (I'm played like a John without an arm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣 - I love traslate popular expressions, they are horrible. We use this expression when we do something even though we know it is wrong. And this is something that Brazilians often do, unfortunately. 4
adolfocaetanonetto Posted June 28, 2023 Author Posted June 28, 2023 Mounting sequence! I started the mounting of frames in the central structure/keel, using EVA glue. Between the frames I glue pieces of foam to give resistance. At that time I realized that I needed remove the cardboards glued in the frames, to be able to sand the foam properly., and to give the shape of the hull. I see that the frames had flaws. To resolve this, I glued foam strips in the places with errors. Frames sanded I cuted a spáce to the deck hatches; and glue the ster wall, made of foam. Finaly, I cut the main deck, and I cut the hatches. To test if it are correct, I positioned the piece in its place. In this image is possible see better the frame sanded. 12
Bandsaw Steve Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 👍I’m always very impressed with how much you can do with cardboard. I remember your U-boat project well. 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted June 29, 2023 Author Posted June 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Bandsaw Steve said: 👍I’m always very impressed with how much you can do with cardboard. I remember your U-boat project well. Thanks Steve. I'm glady with your words! The mounting under classic jazz, like Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Glenn Miller and Henry Mancini help! 😉
ArnoldAmbrose Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 Hello @adolfocaetanonetto, I like the way you are making the ship. She looks very good already. Will the stern wall have card over it too? Regards, Jeff. 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted June 29, 2023 Author Posted June 29, 2023 Ahoy, Ambrose. The stern was make with a cardboard with the shape and glued in the foam. After dry, I cut the shape and glued in the central structure/keel; in the piece I cut a groove to adapt in the keel. 1 1
rob Lyttle Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 I am loving this already 😊😎 Who needs a kit?? NOT THIS GUY.... ❗⚠️ Bravo, Adolfo, so far. A bunch of card and foam board and.... Boom.! I really need to watch this. I'm not a ship builder, or sailing ships at all. I mostly build aeroplanes. But now, by accident 🤔, I have the old Revell HMS Bounty kit and for some reason I'm hooked and addicted. I have a LOT to learn and I think this wip thread could have some information that I will need. 👍 Also Google translate is very very funny and entertaining 😄 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted July 4, 2023 Author Posted July 4, 2023 6 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: I am loving this already 😊😎 Who needs a kit?? NOT THIS GUY.... ❗⚠️ Bravo, Adolfo, so far. A bunch of card and foam board and.... Boom.! I really need to watch this. I'm not a ship builder, or sailing ships at all. I mostly build aeroplanes. But now, by accident 🤔, I have the old Revell HMS Bounty kit and for some reason I'm hooked and addicted. I have a LOT to learn and I think this wip thread could have some information that I will need. 👍 Also Google translate is very very funny and entertaining 😄 Thanks, Rob. Realy scratch is a challenge: escolher o material que melhor se adapta para o que desejamos fazer é uma peripécia; além disso, são muitas tentativas e erros (muitos erros). And lets go for more mounting! I increased the resolution of the images for better viewing. Here I build the hull, using thin cardboard. Each card strip was glued between two foam frames, with eva/foam glue. When I noticed that the shape of frame was wrong I sanded it. The card strips were glued one on the edge to the other; "If a place was no cardboard" (I realy dont speak this... 🤐), I glued a card strip there. .I placed the main and top decks in theis places to cut the hull in th correct local. The hole is the place of the main mast. The stern will cuted later. The hull was sanded. 10
Bandsaw Steve Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Quick progress- it’s taken me 4.5 years to get Xantho to this point! 🤣 3
adolfocaetanonetto Posted July 4, 2023 Author Posted July 4, 2023 Hy Steve. I actually have the model assembled a little bit advanced, but editing the images and thinking of an explanation (in english... british english 🧐) that is at least didactic takes time. Dont forguet that I was born and live in Third World, in a Latin American Bananas Republic - governed early by a antivax, and now by a condemned corrupted, both supporting a tyrant that invades another country - I want political refuge, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😫. 1
Bandsaw Steve Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 Cripes! When you put it that way It sounds like the Black Pearl is facing some unfavourable winds. Still, I’m sure Captain Jack Sparrow and crew would be undeterred, press on Regardless I say! 🏴☠️ 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted July 7, 2023 Author Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) Hi, fellas. I started the hull and decks planks. I saw a guy in Youtube building a HMS Victory scratch with cardboard, like me. But to made the planks he use dry banana leaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😶. Well, if he can, we maybe can. I live in a bananas republic, and the bananas growhup in the alphalt (🤥), with the monkeys jumping between then (😁). Realy, my neighbor have some babanas trees. And this is an advantage of living in a tropical country, and this I love in Brazil: fruits, vegetables, bean, rice, all fresh!!!! Sometimes my wife and I (yes, I married yet... I think) buy beans directly from the farmer - live in a small city help! I take the leaves and I wait dry. Was raining and the leafs was wet. Look the pattern of stains... this will a good result. After dry. I put the leaves under a wooden plank and a lot of weight on the plank, to . To my delight it didn't work, and the leaves remained wrinkled. Finally I glue the leaves in A-4 paper using white glue, using a piece of plastic to smooth the leaves while the glue dried. I think that is good! I cutting lots and lots of strips, 1,5 mm more and less. I glues the "banana planks" in the decks (in this case is the stern deck). The excess will cut off later. The stear deck ready with the mast hole. And the bow deck started; look that I cut off the hatch, and I glued the planks to match with the hatch edge. In Brazil we say that "isso é serviço de preso!" (this is prisioner work), a boring work, repetitive. But I liked the result The main deck 😫. I went as far as I could; at a certain point I couldn't see anything else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its was time to rest! Edited July 7, 2023 by adolfocaetanonetto 12
Dancona Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 You my friend, are a modelmaking force of nature, totally unstoppable, absolutely brilliant use of banana leaves 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted July 14, 2023 Author Posted July 14, 2023 More mounting. The structure hull is ready, with the bulwark with corretc shape? (Is it correct? The walls over the decks, to protect the crew to do not fall in sea?) In the bow deck I used depron to raise the height. Card pieces was glued to prolong the bulwark. So, I mounted the bow deck and I started building the hull planks. First I mounted the inner planks, in the bulwark Later I started mounting the hull planks. I was glued one by one, gluing an end before; after dry, I was glue the rest. You see that I cut off the excess of the inner planks in the bulwark. In the stern the outside planks still with excess. and the process continues... and never ending... 😬. Oh Lord! to make the hull bottom I glued some cardboards to reinforce the structure; it was soft and there was a depression when I squeezed it. After I sanded. To continue the planks, I glued those that stay in the keel. Here I cut off the excess of the planks in the stern. Here you see how I glue the planks, starting in an end, and gluing the rest after the glue dry. And the result. Realy I liked. But was a hard work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8
ArnoldAmbrose Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, adolfocaetanonetto said: And the result. Realy I liked. But was a hard work But very well done. Are you going to paint the hull or leave those planks in their natural form? Regards, Jeff. 1
adolfocaetanonetto Posted July 14, 2023 Author Posted July 14, 2023 Ahoy, Ambrose. I think that I will use a wash in the hull, to make it more dark, and to hidden the white of the carboard. In hands, the banana leaves realy like wood! 1
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