1:48 Boulton Paul Defiant ASR Mk.I *FINISHED*

[Dunny]

3 hours ago, Zephyr91 said:

So, Roger.  Apologies for the digression.

 

Where were we? 

 

Rob

 

 

I think I ought to butcher some plastic Rob...🤣

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

A quick update after last weekend as I've been too busy to post. I spent most of my time rivetting the airframe. Here's one of the the wings in process:

 

 

And the fuselage:

 

 

And here's the whole lot:

 

 

Far from my favourite job but it should make a difference. You can see where I made a slip on the starboard wing - I'm hoping it will be covered by the roundel decal (or I may choose to rectify it 🤩). Finally I did get to throw some paint around:

 

 

That's all for now - onwards and upwards this weekend!

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[Zephyr91]

Nice moves.  I like the rivetting but my patience for that sort of thing went out the door and moved on long ago!  However, it is noticeable on the Defiant in certain lights, so good one!

 

Rob

[2996 Victor]

Great progress, Roger; as Rob says the rivetting on the Defiant is pretty noticeable and you've done a splendid job. The office is looking nice in its IGG.

 

Looking forward to your next update!

 

Cheers,

Mark

[Dunny]

49 minutes ago, Zephyr91 said:

Nice moves.  I like the rivetting but my patience for that sort of thing went out the door and moved on long ago!  However, it is noticeable on the Defiant in certain lights, so good one!

 

Rob

Thanks Rob - certainly in 1:48 the Airfix kit looks rather bare, so hopefully my ham-fisted attempts will enhance the effect!

40 minutes ago, 2996 Victor said:

Great progress, Roger; as Rob says the rivetting on the Defiant is pretty noticeable and you've done a splendid job. The office is looking nice in its IGG.

 

Looking forward to your next update!

 

Cheers,

Mark

Thanks very much Mark - detail painting and weathering to come on the cockpit this weekend!

 

Cheers,

 

Roger

[bigbadbadge]

Nice job on the rivets Roger and great to see some paint going on too.

Chris

[Fritag]

Good progress Roger.  Like the rivets .  Tempted to copy it but one should recognize one’s limitations.  Something to practice on a mule first!

[AliGauld]

Absolutely riveting.

 

 

Well someone had to say it.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Dunny]

12 hours ago, Fritag said:

Good progress Roger.  Like the rivets .  Tempted to copy it but one should recognize one’s limitations.  Something to practice on a mule first!

Thanks Steve. I think perhaps an old kit would be better - a mule could be considered animal cruelty 

2 hours ago, AliGauld said:

Absolutely riveting.

 

 

Well someone had to say it.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

I refer you to my previous comment. Let it now finish...

[mark.au]

I've toyed with doing some riveting on my efforts but shied away from it because of the tedium of the task, and a lack of confidence in my ability to deliver a good result.  I'm looking forward to seeing how your effort turns out, Roger (I can't see the slip on the starboard wing, by the way) because if the result is as good as it looks like it will be, I'm going to give it a shot.

[Dunny]

14 hours ago, bigbadbadge said:

Nice job on the rivets Roger and great to see some paint going on too.

Chris

Thanks Chris - the paint was a necessary antidote to the tedium of rivetting!

8 minutes ago, mark.au said:

I've toyed with doing some riveting on my efforts but shied away from it because of the tedium of the task, and a lack of confidence in my ability to deliver a good result.  I'm looking forward to seeing how your effort turns out, Roger (I can't see the slip on the starboard wing, by the way) because if the result is as good as it looks like it will be, I'm going to give it a shot.

Thanks very much Mark. I do find that rivetting in short bursts is the best way to alleviate the tedium. It is remarkably error-prone however, particularly with my ham fists..

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

A quick update as I've spent a relaxing morning creating in Fusion 360. Taking learnings from  @Fritag's astonishing creations for his TT Defiant project I decided to create the underwing stores for the Defiant. Feeling my way around the rather complex Forms function I eventually landed up with a dinghy profile within the pod which looked suitably 3D:

 

 

Bearing in mind that's only 23mm long I think that'll do! My next job is to create the smoke flares for under the starboard wing, so if I make sufficient progress I might post another update later,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[Dunny]

Hi All,

 

Another quick update. After the 3D wrangling with the dinghy pod I made short work of the smoke flare rack:

 

 

I'm fortunate enough to have a colleague at work who has a 3D printing side hustle, so should be able to get these hi-res printed at a reasonable price! Tomorrow I shall be back onto actual plastic butchery,

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Roger

[AliGauld]

So, you're moving into the 3d stuff too. I thought for a second you were heading down to the crossroads to follow Fritag  but you have someone to print the stuff for you.

This is all alien to me but Ye Gods it looks good.

It's all looking utterly splendid and I'm looking forward to more.

I'm seriously impressed yet again.

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Dunny]

22 minutes ago, AliGauld said:

So, you're moving into the 3d stuff too. I thought for a second you were heading down to the crossroads to follow Fritag  but you have someone to print the stuff for you.

This is all alien to me but Ye Gods it looks good.

It's all looking utterly splendid and I'm looking forward to more.

I'm seriously impressed yet again.

 

Cheers,

Alistair

Thanks very much Alistair,

 

I've used CAD professionally for over 30 years but it's a relatively new addition for me to this wonderful hobby. It's actually pretty straightforward once you grasp the fundamentals of creating forms. Also handy not having to shell out on a printer 🤩

 

Cheers,

 

Roger

[AliGauld]

1 minute ago, Dunny said:

Also handy not having to shell out on a printer 🤩

More importantly not having the clean up afterwards. 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Dunny]

Just now, AliGauld said:

More importantly not having the clean up afterwards. 

 

Cheers,

Alistair

Quite so! Fusion 360 is a free download so you should have a tinker. If you fancy it it's very easy to get stuff made by Shapeways before you commit to a printer...

[mark.au]

3D and riveting, I’ve got some catching up to do.  

[jackroadkill]

3 minutes ago, mark.au said:

3D and riveting, I’ve got some catching up to do.  

 

Yes, I was thinking the same.  I ordered myself a riveting tool yesterday after seeing @Dunny's efforts.  I'm viewing it with some trepidation, if I'm honest.  And as for 3d printing....

[Dunny]

27 minutes ago, mark.au said:

3D and riveting, I’ve got some catching up to do.  

That's what happens when you go and play with jets 

23 minutes ago, jackroadkill said:

 

Yes, I was thinking the same.  I ordered myself a riveting tool yesterday after seeing @Dunny's efforts.  I'm viewing it with some trepidation, if I'm honest.  And as for 3d printing....

You'll be fine JRK - slow and steady is the way. 3D printing (or more importantly CAD) is really not that difficult to grasp, and there's plenty of support on tap here...

[Fritag]

Elegant Fusion design work, Roger.  In my view it’s the production of game changing home-brew additions like this that is  (excuse the awful pun) at the core of the fusion of CAD/Printing with kit building.  It’s certainly why I started exploring Fusion (formulating a pun with ‘chitubox’ was way beyond me….).

 

1 hour ago, Dunny said:

Quite so! Fusion 360 is a free download so you should have a tinker. If you fancy it it's very easy to get stuff made by Shapeways before you commit to a printer...

 

Seconded.  I didn’t invest in the printer until I’d played about with Fusion long enough to be persuaded I was going to stick at it and get adequate of use from the printer.  I didn’t fancy explaining to Mrs F why the fancy new red box in the garage was never used…

 

I’ve said it on other threads , but I think for those of us without a CAD background, the key as to whether we’ll successfully learn and make use of CAD is whether or not we find we enjoy the process for it’s own sake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Fritag

[Dunny]

4 minutes ago, Fritag said:

I’ve said it on other threads , but I think for those of us without a CAD background, the key as to whether we’ll successfully learn and make use of CAD is whether or not we find we enjoy the process for it’s own sake.

Well said Steve, and I think the more it is normalised the more people will understand. Your sterling efforts and the way they are communicated are certainly helping the cause...

Edited April 29, 2023 by Dunny
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[bigbadbadge]

Nice job on the cad work Roger, they look fantastic.

Chris

[AndyL]

Nice work on the riveting. It's noticable on the Defiant ( as per image), but I doubt I'll do that to mine as I'm sure to mess it up!

[JackG]

That is indeed great use of 3D designing into your project.

 

I took another stab at the  colours and incorporated a few more details into the sample artwork.   One item not discussed was the date of when the photo of BA  was taken.   An older posting on these forums stated the blue of the roundel could fade quickly so have lighten/brightened just the blue for the national marking.   Similarly have adjusted the EDSG but only roughly half as much.   The colour work has also incorporated some brightness along the top of the fuselage to mimic the bright sun in the period photo.  A final adjustment of contrast by a factor of 25 before inputting into the b/w film emulator.

 

 

Decided to use the yellow filter as this apparently was the most common one to use with ortho.   It slightly lightens the yellow ring.

 

The final or third step displays what happens when further  contrast is applied to an existing photo.