Slater Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Luckily there seems to be no fatalities. "The Defence Flight Safety Bureau is investigating the cause of the crash, which eyewitnesses said involved sparks and an explosion at the top of the rotor blades. A damaged blade was visible on the beach where the helicopter was stranded before being lifted onto a naval vessel for examination. Defence officials have not commented on the possible causes of the malfunction, but some insiders have claimed that Australia has failed to properly maintain and manage the complex MRH-90 fleet." https://www.defencetoday.com/air/air-platforms/australia-grounds-mrh-90-taipan-helicopter-fleet-after-crash/ Edited March 27, 2023 by Slater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Blah blah ...blame the maintainers....on the plus side suceessful ditching and everyone safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 "failed to properly maintain and manage" is not the same as, "blame the maintainers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Whereas "some insiders have claimed that" is journalese for We always agree with anything that puts a public agency in a bad light and we'll point it out in a way that makes you think it must be true while carefully not explicitly saying it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Glad the crew all safe and made it safely back to the bar. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairystick Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 7:49 AM, junglierating said: on the plus side suceessful ditching and everyone safe On the plus side, another of those horrible bits of junk crashes (hopefully not to return to the skies and insult us with its presence, ever again!). (Yes, I hate NH-90's). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 hours ago, hairystick said: Yes, I hate NH-90's. Who doesn't? That said, somehow they've sold nearly 500 of them! Glad the crew are out OK! Very curious to find out the cause... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, wellsprop said: Who doesn't? That said, somehow they've sold nearly 500 of them! Glad the crew are out OK! Very curious to find out the cause... Amazing is it? On 3/27/2023 at 8:29 PM, Sabrejet said: "failed to properly maintain and manage" is not the same as, "blame the maintainers". Valid point ....lets have a bow tie cause event 🤔😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Interesting that Australian is replacing the MRH-90 with the 1970's-designed Blackhawk (although I'm sure that a UH-60M is considerably improved over a UH-60A). I would have thought that the newer design would ordinarily have the advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Slater said: Interesting that Australian is replacing the MRH-90 with the 1970's-designed Blackhawk (although I'm sure that a UH-60M is considerably improved over a UH-60A). I would have thought that the newer design would ordinarily have the advantage. Let's just say that Australia hasn't had a particularly happy time with its MRH-90s. On paper, a superb bit of kit. In service... nah. I believe that the other nations who fly it are less than happy also. I work with an ex-Australian Army airframe fitter, and he hasn't got much that's good to say about it. Tiger has proved much the same, Airbus overpromised and underdelivered, by quite a large margin, which is why Australia is buying ugly Apaches ASAP. (Not that Tiger's a beauty mind you, they're almost a caricature of an attack helicopter). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 8 hours ago, wellsprop said: Glad the crew are out OK! Very curious to find out the cause... Maybe testament to the design? Everybody OK seems quite an achievement in a crash! Or was it benign after all, more like a ditching? There certainly seem to be some flaws in its maintenance design... / setup indeed, true! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 Looks like Norway is buying six MH-60R's to replace some of it's NH90's.: https://breakingdefense.com/2023/03/norway-approves-1-1-billion-mh-60r-seahawk-deal-for-partial-nh-90-fleet-replacement/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVY870 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 10:44 AM, Rob G said: Let's just say that Australia hasn't had a particularly happy time with its MRH-90s. On paper, a superb bit of kit. In service... nah. I believe that the other nations who fly it are less than happy also. I work with an ex-Australian Army airframe fitter, and he hasn't got much that's good to say about it. Tiger has proved much the same, Airbus overpromised and underdelivered, by quite a large margin, which is why Australia is buying ugly Apaches ASAP. (Not that Tiger's a beauty mind you, they're almost a caricature of an attack helicopter). MRH-90's, tigers and the Spartan have all been a nightmare. Safe to say the ADF has had enough of Eurotrash, no wonder we went for the US subs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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