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Hmmm this might be an unpopular opinion to some but I would strongly advise to those willing to build a Battle to wait for the FROMM one. After their Whirlwind fiasco I know I will.

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11 minutes ago, AmaruTG said:

to wait for the FROMM one

The Azur kit is in 1/72, though. There's not long to wait for the Azur kit, should be released before summer. 

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54 minutes ago, TheKinksFan said:

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The Azur kit is in 1/72, though. There's not long to wait for the Azur kit, should be released before summer. 

I was under the impression that they were working on an 1/48 as well...

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Stephen said:

How about we wait until we see the plastic? 

I know, but you know what they say, huh ?

Seventy two hundred and twice bitten...

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10 minutes ago, AmaruTG said:

I was under the impression that they were working on an 1/48 as well...

 

There has been nothing from them hinting at a 1/48, so unfortunately no. It's a Special Hobby kit, but is tooled in Ukraine. 

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27 minutes ago, Max Headroom said:

I hope for the best. I believe that the Firefly overall was ok. 
 

Trevor

There are a lot of ways to screw up the Battle and there are a lot of really bad drawings floating around. You know that Trumpeter didn’t measure a (the? - I think there are at least two survivors) real one.

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9 minutes ago, TEXANTOMCAT said:

Ah I see mould sharing- reissue the Fulmar in green and brown camo= Battle.

 

this is the Way.

 

the Trumpeter way 👍

There’s not actually much commonality between the Battle and the Fulmar. I don’t even think the wing planforms are the same. The Fulmar was based on the Battle replacement, the P.4/34.

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45 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said:

There are a lot of ways to screw up the Battle and there are a lot of really bad drawings floating around. You know that Trumpeter didn’t measure a (the? - I think there are at least two survivors) real one.

Then, How to judge it will be accurate or not, if we all have the same limited information/sources?  

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20 minutes ago, VMA131Marine said:

There’s not actually much commonality between the Battle and the Fulmar. I don’t even think the wing planforms are the same. The Fulmar was based on the Battle replacement, the P.4/34.

The propellor goes at the front and the glass goes on top, that'll do.

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9 minutes ago, JFM148 said:

Then, How to judge it will be accurate or not, if we all have the same limited information/sources?  

Well, just look at the effort that Frrom has put into their Battle through the various iterations of their CAD design and their requests for feedback. I’m not optimistic Trumpeter will go to those lengths to get it right because they have rarely done it before and they have ignored feedback even when asked for.

 

If I were Trumpeter, I would just pay Frrom to create a 1/48 scale kit design.

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I've got the Frrom one on pre-order; I'll wait to see what the Trumpeter one looks like before committing to it.

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Considering the size of the Battle IRL,  I'll stick to 1/72. 
But: I hope for others it turns out reasonably close to what it should be. Who knows? Their big Hurri II wasn't bad at all.

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2 hours ago, VMA131Marine said:

Well, just look at the effort that Frrom has put into their Battle through the various iterations of their CAD design and their requests for feedback. I’m not optimistic Trumpeter will go to those lengths to get it right because they have rarely done it before and they have ignored feedback even when asked for.

 

If I were Trumpeter, I would just pay Frrom to create a 1/48 scale kit design.

Isn´t Fromm kit 1/72?  Trumpeter's will be 1/48.    

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28 minutes ago, JFM148 said:

Isn´t Fromm kit 1/72?  Trumpeter's will be 1/48.    

Trumpeter are the  classic  garbage in=garbage out system,

 

IF the research given to their CAD designers is good,  you get an accurate model, if it's bad, you get an inaccurate model.    It is likely to be a easy to assemble and well engineered kit though.  So, if they got decent information, you will get an accurate and buildable model.  

 

But, their track record on British subjects does not inspire confidence.     

So far, we have had had Spiteful/Seafang, DH Hornet/Sea Hornet, Firefly, Defiant, Albacore, DH Vampire, Westland Whirlwind and Sea Vixen from them that have ALL had serious issues in  accuracy,   as well as utterly worthless decals, usually wrong in every important detail.     There maybe other I have forgotten.   

 

Their Sea Hawk was reasonable, as was their Wyvern,  story is the design work came from elsewhere, (IIRC Monochrome from Japan)  and their 1/24th Hurricane got many subtle details right,  missed on many kits,  again implying they had outside input. 

 

HTH

 

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I'd really like a 1/48 Battle so I hope Trumpeter make a reasonable job of it, I'd be quite happy with reasonable.

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4 hours ago, matti64 said:

The propellor goes at the front and the glass goes on top, that'll do.

Hi

     awesome so i will be able to get a trumpy 1:48 hawker henley 

      cheers

         jerry 

 

but hopefully it is a reasonable battle 

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We can but hope that the A team are working on it and they have outside research help. I want a Battle in 1/48, but was hoping that it was somewhere in the Airfix ‘to do’ list, given the many other early war RAF steadfasts they have produced. I hope this, and the Fulmar, doesn’t cruel the pitch.
 

Better make the MPM Fulmar my next build so I have something to compare it to!

 

cheers

 

Steve

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I have built some nice Trumpy kits and I have a couple that are still in the box. My own experience is they can make good kits.  I will wait to see what's in the box and read some reviews.  I have a Classic Airframe one that I could do also so I have a decision to make.

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3 hours ago, Harold55 said:

I have built some nice Trumpy kits and I have a couple that are still in the box. My own experience is they can make good kits.  I will wait to see what's in the box and read some reviews.  I have a Classic Airframe one that I could do also so I have a decision to make.

Classic Airframes messed up the shape of the nose a bit. But I predict Trumpeter will screw up their version MUCH worse since they seem to mostly take the lazy route of just copying the plans out of some book or magazine without checking against either period photos or preserved examples.

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