Whitewolf Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Can anyone recommend a very good 1/48 Spitfire seat (resin) that comes with an empty flare rack? I have the Barracuda seat, but the resin rack moulding in my example is quite poor. Quickboost and Ultracast do nice seats, but for some strange reason, the ones I've seen don't include a flare rack? Thanks Edited January 31, 2023 by Whitewolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I'd be inclined to use some evergreen strips, and a drill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, alt-92 said: I'd be inclined to use some evergreen strips, and a drill. Yes, I could do, but if a seat exists, I would be happy to buy one. Its a bit strange that the flare rack is not included with the seats? Without it they are not very accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 A lot of Spitfires didn't have the racks fitted. At least some of the Eduard kits supply them in both polystyrene and photo-etch, so there should be plenty of those floating around in people's spare boxes. I suggest you put up a request in the Wanted section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Work In Progress said: A lot of Spitfires didn't have the racks fitted. At least some of the Eduard kits supply them in both polystyrene and photo-etch, so there should be plenty of those floating around in people's spare boxes. I suggest you put up a request in the Wanted section. Not all did, but the one I'm building had it fitted. Various seats, resin, etched and plastic kit parts all come in differing sizes, so unfortunately it's not a straight forward case of raiding the spares box, I have a very nice rack that is too small for the Barracuda seat....hence it would be good to find one that actually comes with one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Don't some Eduard sets have the rack in PE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: Don't some Eduard sets have the rack in PE? Yes they do, but are normally sized for etched seats in the packs which is useful providing the set for the aircraft you are building is still available.....in the case of 1/48 Spitfire PRXIX it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 That much of a difference in seats /racks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Whitewolf said: I have a very nice rack that is too small for the Barracuda seat....hence it would be good to find one that actually comes with one... That is why I suggested using plastic stock sheet/strips and drilling the holes It's easier to get it to fit your seat that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 This even comes with the matching seat! https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-49648-spitfire-prxix-interior-sa--214346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 14 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: This even comes with the matching seat! https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-49648-spitfire-prxix-interior-sa--214346 Sure does, but appears unavailable at the moment unless someone on here has one they don't want or can point me in the direction of one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 14 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: That much of a difference in seats /racks? Surprisingly yes. The seat Airfix provide is a lot smaller than the Barracuda seat for example, every manufacturer seems to have slightly different sized seats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Whitewolf said: Surprisingly yes. The seat Airfix provide is a lot smaller than the Barracuda seat for example, every manufacturer seems to have slightly different sized seats.... 😂 I meant the 1:1scale ones. Kitmakers sometimes have trouble deciding what scale stuff is....😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bozothenutter said: 😂 I meant the 1:1scale ones. Kitmakers sometimes have trouble deciding what scale stuff is....😉 I couldn't comment on differentions in size of the real thing, but kitmakers should in theory scale that down, but seem to be very inconsistent in doing that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix44 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Whitewolf said: I couldn't comment on differentions in size of the real thing, but kitmakers should in theory scale that down, but seem to be very inconsistent in doing that lol I suspect cockpits are a question of getting everything to fit together rather than true scale dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phoenix44 said: I suspect cockpits are a question of getting everything to fit together rather than true scale dimensions. Could be, the overall dimensions of the kit no doubt influence other things including cockpit fittings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Ok, solved! Eduard do a lovely etched rack in their cockpit set for Airfix Spitfire FR XIV which coincidentally fits the Barracuda seat beautifully. It would appear the seats supplied in the Airfix 1/48 PRXIX & FR XIV differ greatly in size despite the fact they should be the same....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Dunno if this helps at all, but on the racks at BBMF last week: https://ibb.co/G0pscg0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ossington 2 said: Dunno if this helps at all, but on the racks at BBMF last week: https://ibb.co/G0pscg0 Which Spit is that seat from? I'm assuming TE311? Edited February 19, 2023 by Whitewolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Ultracast do early seats with the flare rack, with and without harness ... https://www.ultracast.ca/1-48-Spitfire-s/170.htm?searching=Y&sort=7&cat=170&show=30&page=3 48198 48199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Tail-Dragon said: Ultracast do early seats with the flare rack, with and without harness ... https://www.ultracast.ca/1-48-Spitfire-s/170.htm?searching=Y&sort=7&cat=170&show=30&page=3 48198 48199 It's a very nice seat but only fitted prior to 1940. They also do a later seat, but strangely minus the rack. As it transpires the Eduard etched rack is fully compatible with the Barracuda seat and later Ultracast seats. If Barracuda supplied a decent resin rack the problem wouldn't have arisen, but that's modelling for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The BBMF photo was taken of the rack adjacent to Spitfire IIa KL-B P7350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Ossington 2 said: The BBMF photo was taken of the rack adjacent to Spitfire IIa KL-B P7350. It appears to be an early metal 'Trough' seat, as fitted to the early Mk1s, P7350 is a 11a and has the later plastic 'Lozenge' seat, its probably for display purposes only, unless they intend to swap it at somepoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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