wellsprop Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Hi, I'm after drawings/plans of the Bloodhound missile, is anyone able to help? I have found this post, but it seems the drawing is not accurate. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Mk 1 or Mk 2? @bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 Both? Mk ii is preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 We have a Mk 1 but no drawings. Filton have a Mk 2 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This one is at Tattershall Thorpe camp if that's any help? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipNAR9AUDqJSj1QAK2O1HviTGedolCui3ZtlPbtN=s680-w680-h510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 21/01/2023 at 07:59, Pete in Lincs said: This one is at Tattershall Thorpe camp if that's any help? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipNAR9AUDqJSj1QAK2O1HviTGedolCui3ZtlPbtN=s680-w680-h510 Interesting launch ramp! We have a launcher and a trailer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 You might be amused to hear that it is not only plastic modellers who have trouble with plans. Back in the early 1960s the Bloodhound design team were puzzled by a discrepancy between the flight test results and the wind tunnel data. It was eventually discovered that there was an 1/8 inch error in the length of the wind tunnel model. I do not know the overall size of the model but 1/8 inch was quite significant. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigVern1966 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Absolutely true that story, Bristol's and RAE's aerodynamicists were pulling their hair out trying to work out why the data from Bloodhound Mk 2 models in wind tunnel tests and the data coming off the firings of full sized test vehicles were so much off (25% was the figure it memory serves). I do have photos of the actual report that states what the error in the model was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigVern1966 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I'm working some for both the Mk 1 and the Mk 2. Around 90% complete for both. Got to get the measurements of the Mk 2 Boost Fins as they were not the same as a Mk 1 (angles were the same but the Mk 2 fin was longer in span and shorter in cord). There are only two 2 Mk 2 missiles in the UK that are almost accurate and on display, the one at RAFADRM Neatishead and the one at Aerospace Bristol. The three at Cosford, The Helicopter Museum and Muckleburgh Collection are Service Evaluation Missiles (Pre Production) built for trials at North Coates between 1962 and 1966 which had major differences with what was put into production (mainly in the shape of the ramjet stub wings and rear ramjet mounts),. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, bigVern1966 said: I'm working some for both the Mk 1 and the Mk 2. Around 90% complete for both. Got to get the measurements of the Mk 2 Boost Fins as they were not the same as a Mk 1 (angles were the same but the Mk 2 fin was longer in span and shorter in cord). There are only two 2 Mk 2 missiles in the UK that are almost accurate and on display, the one at RAFADRM Neatishead and the one at Aerospace Bristol. The three at Cosford, The Helicopter Museum and Muckleburgh Collection are Service Evaluation Missiles (Pre Production) built for trials at North Coates between 1962 and 1966 which had major differences with what was put into production (mainly in the shape of the ramjet stub wings and rear ramjet mounts),. I photographed the one at former RAF Laarbruch in 2010, and can send the set of ~20 photos if that's any help.. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 21 minutes ago, Rob de Bie said: I photographed the one at former RAF Laarbruch in 2010, and can send the set of ~20 photos if that's any help.. Rob Would be good for the Walkaround section Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 hours ago, Julien said: Would be good for the Walkaround section Rob. I'm not familiar with the instructions for that section. I can send the photos as a set if you're interested in uploading them? Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 08/03/2023 at 16:48, Rob de Bie said: I'm not familiar with the instructions for that section. I can send the photos as a set if you're interested in uploading them? Rob Contact @Julien, it's his department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Enerdal Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Sweden bought both Mk1 an 2, only Mk2 were fielded, though. Several remain in Sweden, on museums and as gate guardians. There is also s missile museum in Arboga in central Sweden and the Swedish War Archives, both may have drawings/plans. Can I be of any specific assistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigVern1966 Posted Wednesday at 11:20 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:20 AM On 3/12/2023 at 11:59 AM, Tomas Enerdal said: Sweden bought both Mk1 an 2, only Mk2 were fielded, though. Several remain in Sweden, on museums and as gate guardians. There is also s missile museum in Arboga in central Sweden and the Swedish War Archives, both may have drawings/plans. Can I be of any specific assistance? Most Museums don't stock that type of stuff. If they have the tech publications, they are next to useless as a lot of drawings are from prototypes which were modified in later years and have major changes. Also Most missiles in Museums are Drill / Training or Display missiles that are missing bits or are made out of prototype and pre production parts. The Rb-68 missile at the Swedish Air Force Museum is one example, it has Drill Rb-365 boost motors on it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Enerdal Posted Thursday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:12 PM I can ask the two museums if they have detailed drawings. The war archives certainly have such of other items, I have myself copied detailed drawing of the Ju86/B3 and the Gladiator/J8. But randomly travelling around the country in search of missiles that may not be ”accurate” sounds futile, can anyone point me (and friends)in any particular direction, I (we) may perhaps be able to assist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Enerdal Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) -The Swedish missiles museum Arboga, their homepage here. I don't know what kind/version of missile they have and is shown in their homepage, but I know where the museum is. The missile is outside and the fins can be measured and or photographed easily. I'll call them tomorrow and will try to find out what kind of technical info they have in their archives. The museum is a couple of hours drive from here, but I can get there within a couple of months from now. I have other reasons to get close to Arboga later this spring. -The Swedish war Archives have just moved to new locations, a suburb outside of Stockholm (where I live). I have not been able to find any listings on their homepage, but I admit that I'm not good at searching in their registers. I will call them tomorrow and try to find out if they have any drawings. I can get there soon if they have information. -Finally, one of the Swedish program managers for our Bloodhound missile system is an old colleague of mine. He was responsible for some of the test firings. Now retired, but I will ask for advice if he knows of any specific info. Edit: just found a promising page (in Swedish), here. Will dig further.. Edited 19 hours ago by Tomas Enerdal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago The Helecopter museum Western Super Mare have a missile & should have the manual for it in there files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago We do have the missile and launcher on display; however, I haven't come across any manuals yet. I'll check again next week. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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