hsr Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Is any company working on an accurate 1/72 T-37? I have the Hasegawa one working to the top of the pile and it is really an A-37 not a T-37 so will take a lot of work to get it close, but only close. This would definitely be in Swords wheel house but they are silent on the subject. Anyone hear any rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I've moved this to the relevant area, as it's not a rumour, just a speculative question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Been thinking about a T-37 for a long time. Spent enough time researching shapes to have built a couple. Finally concluded that you can make one from an Academy A-37. Mostly involves leaving parts off (thank you Academy for a thoughtful parts breakdown). The real challenge comes with the engine bays. Those on the A-37 were bigger than on the T-37 due to larger engines. But where? Seemingly endless gazing at photos has convinced me that the bulge is on the lower side. Upper side contours seem unchanged. I think the Academy plastic will allow for for quite a bit of reduction on the lower side. Of Course splitter plates are required on the T-37. My candidates come from the Hasegawa F8F-8 Cougar. They are just about the right size and they were not used on all Cougars. I have a selection left over from a 5 Cougar build. That’s my plan and I’m sticking to it! Any wisdom or corrections welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, Trenton guy said: That’s my plan and I’m sticking to it! Any wisdom or corrections welcome. Why the Academy and not the Hasegawa, what are it's advantages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 The Academy is a much newer kit. It has recessed panel lines, clearer and more precise clear parts, the conversion friendlier parts breakdown and the parts to do an open canopy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, Trenton guy said: Been thinking about a T-37 for a long time. Spent enough time researching shapes to have built a couple. Finally concluded that you can make one from an Academy A-37. Mostly involves leaving parts off (thank you Academy for a thoughtful parts breakdown). The real challenge comes with the engine bays. Those on the A-37 were bigger than on the T-37 due to larger engines. But where? Seemingly endless gazing at photos has convinced me that the bulge is on the lower side. Upper side contours seem unchanged. I think the Academy plastic will allow for for quite a bit of reduction on the lower side. Of Course splitter plates are required on the T-37. My candidates come from the Hasegawa F8F-8 Cougar. They are just about the right size and they were not used on all Cougars. I have a selection left over from a 5 Cougar build. That’s my plan and I’m sticking to it! Any wisdom or corrections welcome. The F9F-5 was the Panther and it had straight wings. The Cougars were all swept wing aircraft. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV O Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 24 minutes ago, e8n2 said: The F9F-5 was the Panther and it had straight wings. The Cougars were all swept wing aircraft. You must have taken a short cut in the reading. Though there is a typo in the type (F9F-8), Trenton is just saying that he has some intakes splitter plates left from his 5 previous builds as all Cougars did not use them, the Blue Angels for instance. And so, is able to use them on the T-37. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 22 hours ago, Trenton guy said: Been thinking about a T-37 for a long time. Spent enough time researching shapes to have built a couple. Finally concluded that you can make one from an Academy A-37. Mostly involves leaving parts off (thank you Academy for a thoughtful parts breakdown). The real challenge comes with the engine bays. Those on the A-37 were bigger than on the T-37 due to larger engines. But where? Seemingly endless gazing at photos has convinced me that the bulge is on the lower side. Upper side contours seem unchanged. I think the Academy plastic will allow for for quite a bit of reduction on the lower side. Of Course splitter plates are required on the T-37. My candidates come from the Hasegawa F8F-8 Cougar. They are just about the right size and they were not used on all Cougars. I have a selection left over from a 5 Cougar build. That’s my plan and I’m sticking to it! Any wisdom or corrections welcome. Except for the Cougar bit, that I do not know, I agree with every bit you write. I've started such a conversion, but creating those belly panels isn't so easy. I don't have decent photos to show unfortunately. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Humm Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 There was a brief description of a T-37 conversion for the Hasegawa A-37A in Replica in Scale Volume 3 Number 1 in 1975. This was deletion of the fuselage lumps and bumps, filling the holes in the lower wing panels, removing the wing tanks and building up the wing tips, and replacing the undercarriage , though the last isn't that obvious. As there is also a conversion to the A-37B involving building up the engine area and exhausts, it sounds like the original Hasegawa kit might be a better place to start, though as they sell it as an A-37A/B these days, there may have been alterations made to the mould. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 According to Scalemates there has never been a change to the 1970 molds, just rebox and new decals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 We do need a T-37 in 1.72 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Here's my conversion, partly done, with the original Academy kit shown too. The difference in engine 'nacelles' should be clearly visible. Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Rob de Bie said: Here's my conversion, partly done, with the original Academy kit shown too Interesting. Are you doing a WIP? Thanks Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 4 hours ago, hsr said: Interesting. Are you doing a WIP? No, I don't, mainly because some projects take years, and that doesn't work on forums. But I will eventually put a report on my own website. But that could take a few more years - too many projects, too little time! Rob Edited January 3 by Rob de Bie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) The Academy kit's out of the box: The aerobatic team: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/16181535774/in/photolist-qi8apF-qDUvzh-qDUAQ7-qXv1S3-AWNmpJ-2kvganD-dEKPcU-rAU9XB and the strike aircraft: here from ROKAF: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/16803856025/in/dateposted/ and here too: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/16380630862/in/photolist-qi8apF-qDUvzh-qDUAQ7-qXv1S3-AWNmpJ-2kvganD-dEKPcU-rAU9XB/ with a new owner. modelldoc Edited January 4 by modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Here are some photos that may be useful. I took them with the same conversion in mind. Regards, Carlos More here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/70648695@N03/albums/72177720304967262/with/52606890260/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, CarLos said: Here are some photos that may be useful. I took them with the same conversion in mind. Very helpful Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 More photos added to the Flickr album. I may add some more when I find them! Carlos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 hours ago, CarLos said: More photos added to the Flickr album. I may add some more when I find them! Carlos Excellent, many thanks! These are the best shots of that darned nacelle that I've ever seen. It's clear they were made by a modeller! Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f5guy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 hours ago, CarLos said: More photos added to the Flickr album. I may add some more when I find them! Carlos Yes, VERY helpful! thanks, Fred K. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT7567 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Having the Hasegawa "Willie Tweet" boxing in the stash, a conversion (or hope for an accurate kit) has been on my wish list for well over a decade. In digging for the partial cutaway image I remembered seeing that illustrates the T-37 profile brilliantly, I discovered that it was actually from an old thread on ARC with major contributions by nome other than @Rob de Bie http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/285344-any-former-t-37-mechanics-in-the-house/ (The particular photo I remembered is the second one in this post) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 This thread inspired me to do some more work on my conversion. Earlier I had tried to sculpt the exhaust with Apoxie. But I realised it would never work - the thin edges would be too delicate. Luckily I had 4.0 x 3.0 mm brass tubing, and I ground the wall thickness down to 0.2 mm. This gave me 3.6 mm internal diameter exhausts, just like I had built with Apoxie. These brass tubes were installed in the enlarged holes. It was followed by lots of puttying and sanding. Comments are welcome! Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 That's a good idea and looks good. What thickness card did you add to the exhaust port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/2/2023 at 1:12 AM, e8n2 said: The F9F-5 was the Panther and it had straight wings. The Cougars were all swept wing aircraft. Later, Dave I was trying to say a build of 5 (five) Cougars, not a build of a -5 Cougar. You are correct that there is no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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