Mark Cassidy Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Hi Folks, I wondered if I could pick your brains about a Mig-21 Fishbed , a particular Mig-21 , its one thats a memorial at the former Smuravyovo 2 Air Base near St Petersburg. I fancied trying to build a diorama that is loosley representative of the one below. I wondered if anyone fancies having a stab at the colours , I have no idea where to even start, I suspect, that once upon a time, that it was in a standard 2 tone green/brown upper with blue lower, I figure the blue lower is from the remaining blue on the undercarriage door. It looks to me like its been ravaged by the weather but I have no idea what colours would be suitable for the faded camouflage scheme, almost the blue is like the colour of the statute of liberty like old aged brass the brown is a tan. Does anyone have any ideas what I could use? Thanks much in advance Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Hi, Mark Guessing the correct color of monuments of military equipment in Russia is useless. The municipal services on the territory of which they are located are responsible for the monuments. They can paint with any paint that remains from the fence or wall. And sometimes they show miracles of imagination by drawing a camouflage that never existed. And, of course, monuments change color under the sun, rain and snow. Therefore, if you want to create a diorama of this place, then just do something similar to a photo on a specific date. Dmitriy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Cassidy Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Dmitriy1967 said: Hi, Mark Guessing the correct color of monuments of military equipment in Russia is useless. The municipal services on the territory of which they are located are responsible for the monuments. They can paint with any paint that remains from the fence or wall. And sometimes they show miracles of imagination by drawing a camouflage that never existed. And, of course, monuments change color under the sun, rain and snow. Therefore, if you want to create a diorama of this place, then just do something similar to a photo on a specific date. Dmitriy That's fantastic mate those other images really help, thanks for this I have my colour choices made but it helps to have more angles to choose from thanks so much for your help mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I'm afraid I can't help with advice but I love builds like this. I'm excited to see your progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Some more photos. It is interesting to observe how the number and location of commemorative plaques on the pedestal under the plane change over time. And another interesting fact is that MiG-21 have never been operated at this airbase. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 This is the earliest photo I've seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Video tour about Smuravevo. About the plane and the house of officers in the beginning. The rest of the video is about life in the village, we are not interested in it. Smuravevo. Abandoned | UNKNOWN Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Here is another videos at the beginning of which there is an airplane. Please note that at this moment the building of the officers' club at the back of the plane collapsed completely. And there are more plates on the pedestal of the aircraft. How does the village abandoned by the Ministry of Defense live? My trip to Smuravevo (to my homeland) Edited January 14, 2023 by Dmitriy1967 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 As someone largely ignorant about the MiG-21 (though there is one about 20 miles from me(!)), this one strikes me as strangely "hump-backed"- is that a particular type? Fascinating to see the photos at different times, and different stages of decay. The last is rather sad- it was a handsome building. Thank you for presenting the photos. bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Cassidy Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dmitriy1967 said: This is the earliest photo I've seen. Dmitriy that's really intresting mate thanks I had wondered if the jet had started out in standard camouflage and then really badly weathered or it was a you had mentioned the local administrators found a load of colour x and y and slapped it on the jet. A wee update I bought the eduard mig-21 kit the weekender one in 1/72 it arrived yesterday along with my t-55 for a similar project and my current build is nearly finished so am hoping to get started on this soon. That said my forst 3d printer has also just arrived as well lol So busy weekend ahead lol Thanks again for all your help with this mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Cassidy Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, gingerbob said: As someone largely ignorant about the MiG-21 (though there is one about 20 miles from me(!)), this one strikes me as strangely "hump-backed"- is that a particular type? Fascinating to see the photos at different times, and different stages of decay. The last is rather sad- it was a handsome building. Thank you for presenting the photos. bob Bob Someone will probably know the variants better than me but the early mig 21 didn't have the "hump" Iirc correctly the later 197ps variants did have them in order to fit avionics and fuel into the airframe. It allowed the mig 21 to become a more all weather fighter rather than the day only of the very early versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The absence of an engine is visible through the hatch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 It could be a Mig-21SMT. Saluti Giampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Cassidy Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 Folks After a great delay Ive finally gotten around to getting this on the bench, Ive started a wee WIP thread for it below And thanks again for your help with this Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hothersall Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 2:09 AM, GiampieroSilvestri said: It could be a Mig-21SMT. Saluti Giampiero Yes that’s what it looks like to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 9:01 AM, Ryan Hothersall said: Yes that’s what it looks like to me too. Almost certainly a MiG-21SMT, which was a relatively rare sub-variant. Apparently the large 'hump back' played havoc with the handling characteristics of the jet. IIRC it was only ever operated by the Soviet Union. Many of the MiG-21 SMT variant made their way into museums or as Gate Guards.....there were at least two in the Riga aviation museum before it was moved and I believe at least one found its way to a private buyer in Finland. I was not familiar with Smuravevo but having heard an Estonian Radio station playing in the background I assumed it was close to our border (which it is - 70km from where I live as the crow flies).....pity I cannot visit it right now. Some rudimentary research indicates that MiG-23BNs and later MiG-27s operated from the base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Hi all, Certainly an SMT. It had huge spine, much bigger than the second biggest bis. I don't think there is an SMT in Finland. A former Polidh MF certainly is. Cheerrs, AaCee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) On 05/12/2023 at 12:36, Tiger331 said: Some rudimentary research indicates that MiG-23BNs and later MiG-27s operated from the base. Yes, MiG-23s were in service with the regiment. But for the last 20 years, before the disbandment of the 722 regiment, Su-24s were in service. Below is the Russian text, I hope Google translator will help. Wikipedia With respect Dmitriy Edited December 6, 2023 by Dmitriy1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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