Handley page victor b1 1:72 pointy tail cone

[Ryan Lumb]

Hello all I have a 1:72 Handley page victor b1 matchbox conversion planned to start some time next year after my Canberra build. I have been looking online and racking my brain trying to find the dimensions of the pointy b1 tail cone dimensions needed for the b1 build. I have been unable to find anything about it, so I did the next thing I could think of and started to look at other aircraft parts that have the same or similar shape that I could potentially hack off and use as the tail. Unfortunately that didn't really work out as well so I am currently at a standstill. The Victor b1 in question that I want to replicate is Victor b1 XA922 but I need to find a person who has made that tail cone and has the dimensions still or find someone who can make me the piece needed if that's possible. I will be doing XA922 before she received the camouflage wing panels, so the XA922 i will modelling will be as my photograph I purchased of her flying sporting the full anti flash white paint with under wing serials and numbers with the type D roundels. Also would anyone happen to have anymore information on XA922 because all I can find is that she didn't enter into a raf squadron but was used at various places such as A&AEE, RAE Farnborough and from my little book lastly at Handley page Radlett. Thanks in advance Ryan amateur modeller.

[Ryan Lumb]

Also sorry I don't know how to add a photo to a post yet but a victor b1 that has the pointy tail cone I am on about is xa936 she's on the cover of warpaint series no 36 

[Ratch]

The Airfix Victor comes with two tail cones.

I can't remember whether the smooth one is different to the Matchbox kit. I cut the tail cone from the Matchbox Victor and fitted the Red Steer radar radome with the full electronic warfare suite including six radar jamming aerials from the Airfix kit.

Maybe someone will have a spare Airfix one for you.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by Ratch
Clarification

[Ratch]

2 hours ago, Ryan Lumb said:

she didn't enter into a raf squadron but was used at various places such as A&AEE, RAE Farnborough and from my little book lastly at Handley page Radlett.

Warpaiint 36 also lists XA922 at Hawker Siddeley, Woodford.

[petetasker]

Hi Ryan 

 

I've just pm'd you XA922's history from Roger Brooks HP Victor Vol 1. 922 being a development aircraft never saw squadron service and following external storage at Radlett its last days were indeed seen out at Woodford where she was eventually scrapped. I've sent you a very quick phone snap of its history as I'm just going out to work. If you need a better one let me know and I'll do it tonight.

 

Hope it helps

 

Pete

[Ryan Lumb]

1 hour ago, petetasker said:

Hi Ryan 

 

I've just pm'd you XA922's history from Roger Brooks HP Victor Vol 1. 922 being a development aircraft never saw squadron service and following external storage at Radlett its last days were indeed seen out at Woodford where she was eventually scrapped. I've sent you a very quick phone snap of its history as I'm just going out to work. If you need a better one let me know and I'll do it tonight.

 

Hope it helps

 

Pete

Brilliant thank you I shall have to get that book. 

[Ryan Lumb]

9 hours ago, Ratch said:

The Airfix Victor comes with two tail cones.

I can't remember whether the smooth one is different to the Matchbox kit. I cut the tail cone from the Matchbox Victor and fitted the Red Steer radar radome with the full electronic warfare suite including six radar jamming aerials from the Airfix kit.

Maybe someone will have a spare Airfix one for you.

 

 

Thanks but those tail cones are not quite right for the b1 XA922 her tail is more pointy than them. I still can't quite get the image thing to work with the url insert but hopefully this works. https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1798078 

[Ratch]

Oh, the early one. I cannot think who might manufacture one. Maybe in this age of 3D printing someone may be able to help 🤔

[Ryan Lumb]

4 hours ago, Ratch said:

Oh, the early one. I cannot think who might manufacture one. Maybe in this age of 3D printing someone may be able to help 🤔

I do know someone who can 3d print but they need the dimensions for the tail in 1:72 but I cannot find them anywhere. I'm hoping that there's someone on this site who has them or has that tail and can tell me the dimensions.

[wavodavo]

That'll be the tail cone for Orange Putter. I bought a built B1 off ebay over 10 years ago that has this tail cone but I don't know it was converted. I'll get a picture of it later.

 

Dave

[Ryan Lumb]

1 hour ago, wavodavo said:

That'll be the tail cone for Orange Putter. I bought a built B1 off ebay over 10 years ago that has this tail cone but I don't know it was converted. I'll get a picture of it later.

 

Dave

Thank you Dave. The tail cone is the last part I need to get this build up and running, I found a b2 bombbay kit on ebay which is coming from Australia and that was a problem to find, i was thinking of taking a airfix victor and cutting the bombbay out of that but i couldnt justify cutting up a £80 kit 😅 This b1 tail cone the orange putter is the last piece I need to make a accurate XA922. I plan on doing the Canberra build first to get some confidence and then I shall tackle the b1 conversion.

[wavodavo]

3 hours ago, Ryan Lumb said:

Thank you Dave. The tail cone is the last part I need to get this build up and running, I found a b2 bombbay kit on ebay which is coming from Australia and that was a problem to find, i was thinking of taking a airfix victor and cutting the bombbay out of that but i couldnt justify cutting up a £80 kit 😅 This b1 tail cone the orange putter is the last piece I need to make a accurate XA922. I plan on doing the Canberra build first to get some confidence and then I shall tackle the b1 conversion.

I used the Freightdog Victor B2 conversion for the bomb bay - I'm not too sure if still available. If you can get hold of one, you might be able to modify the Flightpath Vulcan B1 conversion tailcone or the Airfix Valiant one. 

Here the photo of the tailcone. and the B1 I did but didn't need the normal tailcone.

thumbnail_IMG_2964 by ravodavo, on Flickr

thumbnail_IMG_2965 by ravodavo, on Flickr

[Ryan Lumb]

23 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

I used the Freightdog Victor B2 conversion for the bomb bay - I'm not too sure if still available. If you can get hold of one, you might be able to modify the Flightpath Vulcan B1 conversion tailcone or the Airfix Valiant one. 

Here the photo of the tailcone. and the B1 I did but didn't need the normal tailcone.

thumbnail_IMG_2964 by ravodavo, on Flickr

thumbnail_IMG_2965 by ravodavo, on Flickr

Those b1's look absolutely stunning. I shall try and find the Flightpath vulcan b1 conversion. I know the mach two valiant kits isn't very good but could I use that or a old historic wings valiant tail for the victor? 

[Ryan Lumb]

This maybe sacrilege but could i use a lindburg vulcan b1 tail or is that far to small? 

[canberra kid]

@Ryan Lumb Hi Ryan,

 Some drawings that may help?

John

[Hook]

17 hours ago, Ryan Lumb said:

This maybe sacrilege but could i use a lindburg vulcan b1 tail or is that far to small? 

Since the Lindberg Victor is  to 1/96th scale, it won't be much use for a 1/72nd conversion.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

 

[Ryan Lumb]

5 hours ago, canberra kid said:

@Ryan Lumb Hi Ryan,

 Some drawings that may help?

John

Those are helpful thanks the person who does 3d printing is inputting it so he will get back to me tomorrow and hopefully I will have the last piece needed for a complete XA922 build. 

[Ryan Lumb]

4 hours ago, Hook said:

Since the Lindberg Victor is  to 1/96th scale, it won't be much use for a 1/72nd conversion.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

 

I had a feeling it maybe to small but that saves me cutting that kit up thanks 😊