fatalbert Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Hiya,i have some questions regarding the Gloster Javelin for an ongoing project that i was hoping you wonderful modellers would be able to help me with.So here goes 1,Could the T3 version carry the under fuselage external fuel tank,i can't recall ever seeing a picture of any fitted to that version 2,Could anyone point me in the direction of a decent picture of the angled wing pylon that was used when carrying the wing tanks,or maybe a good picture of one from the Airfix 1/48 kit. And finally(for now) 3,can anyone point me in the direction of some pictures of the canopy in the open position.i have a feeling that the front and rear canopies move as one,is this correct? Many thanks for looking. Neil Edited December 20, 2022 by fatalbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 T3 with split canopy and belly tanks. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Thankyou,i haven't seen that picture before.🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 John 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Thankyou John,thats excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Hello Neil, the canopies move together in fighter variants. Check this video clip around 1:40 to see the canopies closing https://www.aikensairplanes.com/javelin-faw-mk-9-raf-no-11-sqn-xh898-raf-binbrook-england/ The canopies could be operated separately but then without electrical motor. For maintenance the clutch was released to allow unrestricted entry into cockpits. The Airfix 1/48 scale kit doesn't have tank pylons although there are parts for four drop tanks. The angled (inboard) pylon isn't as tall as missile pylons. Some further info in my old WIP in here: Cheers, Antti 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Thanks Antti,thats a very usefull vid and thread,thats going to be really handy 👍 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I read through Antti's thread, linked above, within the last couple of weeks (after finally securing an Airfix 48th Javelin). Highly recommended! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 19 hours ago, fatalbert said: Hiya,i have some questions regarding the Gloster Javelin for an ongoing project that i was hoping you wonderful modellers would be able to help me with.So here goes 1,Could the T3 version carry the under fuselage external fuel tank,i can't recall ever seeing a picture of any fitted to that version 2,Could anyone point me in the direction of a decent picture of the angled wing pylon that was used when carrying the wing tanks,or maybe a good picture of one from the Airfix 1/48 kit. And finally(for now) 3,can anyone point me in the direction of some pictures of the canopy in the open position.i have a feeling that the front and rear canopies move as one,is this correct? Many thanks for looking. Neil As you are asking questions about the T3 I found your drop tank question puzzling. The only version of Javelin that could carry the wing tanks was the FAW9R (The ones that could carry the refuelling probe), not even a bog standard FAW 9 could carry them. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Hiya Selwyn, not just the T3,i have a few Javelin kits in the stash and i have questions relating to various marks,apologies for the confusion Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 23 hours ago, fatalbert said: Hiya Selwyn, not just the T3,i have a few Javelin kits in the stash and i have questions relating to various marks,apologies for the confusion Neil I'll let you off, just this once!😉 Selwyn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Hello everyone,another question,this time regarding the wing Vortex generators.Am building the Airfix 1/72 FAW 9,but back dating it to a MK7,Did the 7 have the same amount of Vortex generators on the wings as the 9.Many thanks Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Hello Neil, there were only two rows of vortex generators on FAW.7. Remove the second row. Those in the first row close to the wing leading edge weren't as tall as those in the rear row. Check also the outer wing leading edge; no drooped leading edge on FAW.7. Cheers, Antti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Thanks Antti,Thats going to make life a little easier when it comes to decaling .Concerning the drooped leading edge,i dont think the 1/72 kit has this,but i will have to double cheack that Thanks again Neil Edited December 31, 2022 by fatalbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 15 hours ago, fatalbert said: Thanks Antti,Thats going to make life a little easier when it comes to decaling .Concerning the drooped leading edge,i dont think the 1/72 kit has this,but i will have to double cheack that Thanks again Neil Neil - it was not so much a "drooped" leading edge than a "casual sag" along the leading edge outboard of the outer pylons and only on the 8/9R. See below on XH891 - HTH Dennis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 Thanks Dennis,the Airfix kit deffinatly hasn't got a 'sagged' leading edge,also thanks for that photo as it shows the kinked fuel tank pylon,🙂 Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 One of the best photos showing the leading edge. Thank you Dennis for sharing it. FAW.8s have this "casual sag" as well, not just FAW.9s. Cheers, Antti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) Some drawings from the various Pilots Notes John Edited January 1, 2023 by canberra kid Added photo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Thanks John,thats awsome 🙂👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 3:13 PM, canberra kid said: Some drawings from the various Pilots Notes John One curious question - why did they write "(T) Mk 3"? I can understand "F (AW)", even though I find the brackets somewhat awkward, and could understand "F (T) Mk 3", but a "(T) Mk 3" isn't any real variant - or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, fatalbert said: Thanks John,thats awsome 🙂👍 No problem, if you want cockpit and seat illustrations let me know, I'll post them. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 12/20/2022 at 9:55 PM, Antti_K said: Hello Neil, the canopies move together in fighter variants. Cheers, Antti I hadn't noticed this until you pointed it out, an important feature when modelling the type! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 4:46 PM, tempestfan said: One curious question - why did they write "(T) Mk 3"? I can understand "F (AW)", even though I find the brackets somewhat awkward, and could understand "F (T) Mk 3", but a "(T) Mk 3" isn't any real variant - or what? Possibly a typo or a 'Gloster-ism' that went all the way through to Air Publications, I've not seen that applied to other P.N.s of contemporary fighter/trainer types, ie Vampire T.11, Meteor T.7, Hunter T.7 etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeELL Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I have improvement and enhancement parts for the 1/72 Airfix Javelin. I am working on producing alternate ‘rear ends’ for the ‘pen nib’ versions and also the plain rear for the FAW 7. I am hoping to make corrected nose cones for the US radar equipped versions. See here: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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