MARADER Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I like rare pieces of technology. I want to build a model of an unusual French car. The 1915 CUIRASSE AUBRIOT-GABET project was based on a Filtz tractor chassis powered by an electric motor. The power supply is via a cable that runs the machine and as it progresses. The craft is armed with a 37mm cannon in turret and served by two men. The vulnerability of the system obviously causes the abandonment of the project. Information taken from here -https://bloodofkittens.com/wargaminghub/2017/05/02/scratchbuild-log-part-1-1915-curiasse-fortin-aubriot-gabet/ http://www.puttyandpaint.com/projects/10770 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Lovely. Looking forward to seeing this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Volodymyr, What an interesting subject. I have been collecting whatever bits of information I can find on this interesting mobile fortress. I have seen the two online builds in your links and found what I think is the original picture from which the more common online picture is taken from and is titled Blockhaus électrique blindé Gabet. It is an interesting image as it has two gentlemen standing off the right side and provide some scale for the vehicle. I have found no other pictures of this vehicle. Figuring out the actual dimensions of the vehicle has been confusing as there are several different values given on different web sites, more on that in a bit. https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/fr/3019800.html Hubert Chance created a 4 view drawing titled Fortin Cuirasse of this vehicle from which it seems like most other drawings found online are based. You may have likely already Mr. Chance's drawing. After studying the photo found in the imagesdefence.gouv.fr link and comparing to the drawings and those two online builds it seems to me that top of the vehicle is more rounded than presented in either of these builds or in Mr. Chances drawings. Also, I think the main armament was the 37mm L23 Hotchkiss rapid firing gun. In 1/35 scale the barrel would be approximately 24mm in length part of which would be inside the vehicle. As well, I found a reference to Filtz tractors having wheel diameter of 80cm and in 1/35 scale that would be approximately 23mm. And, I also stumbled across some details on something called the Gruson Fahrbare Panzerlafette or Fahrpanzer https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/gruson-fahrbare-panzerlafette-fahrpanzer/ amongst other references. In fact, there is quite a bit of information easily found on these vehicles. Similar in design and concept to the Cuirasse Aubriot Gabet, I wonder if these provided some of the inspiration for the design of the French vehicle. Looking forward to see how your build develops. cheers, Graham 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Welcome, Volodymyr, that looks like an excellent, and unusual vehicle, and excellent choice of subject. Looking forward to your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginot Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 That's a cracker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 The missile attack was repulsed, electricity and the Internet were turned on. You can start building. Colleagues, thank you for your interest in this topic! I made the wheels and the body frame. Material - polystyrene 0.5 - 2 mm. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Graham! I don't know the size of this car. First, I loaded the photo into CorelDREW and drew on it. I think that a person 175 cm tall should be in the tower and control the gun. My wheel diameter is 27mm. Tomorrow I will finish and publish my drawings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Volodymyr, That looks like a good start. Scratchbuilding unusual subjects is always a challenge, especially those from over one hundred years ago for which there are few references. Your method of arriving at wheel diameter of 27mm is as valid as any other. Firing off a 37mm gun in such a confined space must have been very noisy and dirty. cheers, Graham 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 I mounted spokes on the wheels. I make the dome of the tower from millipute. The mold was cast from plaster. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I like what you did to make a mold for the top part of the vehicle - what a light bulb moment ( pun intended ). Very creative thinking. cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muchmirth Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Interesting subject. Mobile pull box springs to mind. Cracking start with the scratch build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 The dome was attached and polished. I made a hole for the gun and the driver. My car diagram (I was too lazy to draw rivets)🙂 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 What a fascinating and obviously doomed project this was, more than a century ago. Now the model will be a fascinating and obviously domed project which I'll follow with interest. 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 Made the body of the machine. Put lugs on the wheels. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muchmirth Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Great work so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 good day Volodymyr, I am pleased to see that you are still working on this. I was just thinking the other day that we had not seen an update on your build in some time. All of the bits and pieces are starting to come together and looking like they should. cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 Colleagues, thank you for the kind words! Time is short and the end is near. Made the rear wheel. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Finished making the rear wheel mount. I install rivets on the body. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Volodmyr, It is really starting to come together. Very nicely done. cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Thank you Graham! Unfortunately, I won't be able to finish the work on time☹️. I was very lazy, and the model was not hard work😳. I plan to make a stand and an officer figurine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 The best laid schemes o' mice an' men, gang aft a-gley. ( from a Robert Burns poem - To a Mouse in case you are unfamiliar with reference ) or the best laid plans of mice often go awry in more modern English. Other cultures must have similar sayings. I don't know of any and Google is not of much help only providing translations of the original into other languages. I also had the idea of a small vignette and figure when I get around to making my version of this vehicle. I have this figure in mind. https://modelcellar.com/shop/time-period/wwi/wwi-french-tanker/ Maybe not the most accurate for this particular subject but to me it really looks the part. Maybe not done for the group build but I look forward to seeing it "Ready for Inspection". cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 It's a fascinating project. Look forward to seeing it in the armour section. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Also would love to see it finished at some point in time. All the best Volodymyr.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 20 hours ago, ColonelKrypton said: The best laid schemes o' mice an' men, gang aft a-gley. We say - "If you want to make God laugh - tell him your plans". AdrianMF , Stef N. - thanks for the support! Installed all the rivets on the body. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, MARADER said: We say - "If you want to make God laugh - tell him your plans". I like that, I will remember that. cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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