Andreas.R Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) I always start with the hardest part on really challenging models. That saves a lot of time, because if that doesn't work, all the time and effort beforehand is wasted. With the Italeri Lancia it's the cockpit. which looks awful! After the cockpit was finally finished in 3D, I bought the model. My special thanks to Iceman 29 @Iceman 29 who gave the cockpit the right look with Fusion 360. I cut off the cockpit roof! It looks good without the "bubble" The headlights and the air slits above the fender have also to be reshaped. The new cockpit looks fantastic, I hope that I can do it nearly as well in real terms in 1/24 scale! I hope that this project will end successfully! Regards Andreas Edited November 21, 2022 by Andreas.R missing pic´s 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I know you can end it well with your skills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thanks Vesa! But it will be challenging, the vacuforming is essential for my design - i never done it before. After eliminating (cutting off) the 2 other issues i will start with the vacuforming. I will report all the attempts, Regards Andreas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 The few parts fit very badly and have many sink marks. The transparent parts are all, except for the rear lights maybe, so horrible that I threw them in the bin in disgust. And another issue: the front air intake! The 2nd problem area appeared to be the fake vents above the front wheels. Their thickness of the plastic made it impossible to open them up, but they were sanded down an reshaped! Thanks for watching!" Cheers Andreas 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I was thinking making these top air vents from really thin platicard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 I will print the air vents in 3D, the problem will be to cut out the thick plastic, and get the printed parts fitted in. I just did a test as there was nothing to loose. There is also a issue regarding the headlights - the headlight sockets appear too big (see my cutout) it wont be difficult to correct as I have to print them anyway in 3D. But then the decals would not fit and have to be modified. which is hardly possible in this area. You always have to make compromises! https://themotorsportnut.com/model-kits/italeri-lancia-lc2-completed/ A good built out of the box - there are only a few due to poo-poo model. It has to be modified! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I am really thinking how much is really left when corrections are done. Also exhaust area in side needs replacing. Rear Wing is quite heavy structure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 I just found another issue: the front air intake! and corrected! I am just working on the front wheel air vents, here a detail photo: thanks for looking, tips as allway wellcome! regards Andreas 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 @Andreas.R I am afraid that whole kit is a issue... Lot of fixing, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 But there is hope to create a good model. Then you can really enjoy this model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelbautony Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Andreas.R said: But there is hope to create a good model. Then you can really enjoy this model. I admire your optimism Andreas. Do you intend to release all your modifications for sale once you have completed this immense task? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 What version of the car are you building ? Looks like the Italeri kit might be based on this one : 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 I will trie to build the version of the photos sold by Girardo. 16 hours ago, modelbautony said: I admire your optimism Andreas. Do you intend to release all your modifications for sale once you have completed this immense task? Let us see how the modifications turned out. If well why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 7:07 PM, Pascal said: What version of the car are you building ? Looks like the Italeri kit might be based on this one : Here is a link to the car i will trie to build: https://girardo.com/car/1983-lancia-lc2-group-c-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Hello back, at the weekend I created the parts to be replaced on the computer. The headlights are done, the rear details, oil cooler, gearbox and the jack still need a few details. I will 3D print the parts and see if they fit. There are always smaller changes from virtual to analogue. and the form for the cockpit vacuform, this must fit perfectly into the cutout! I hope that the 3D parts fit well! Regards Andreas Edited February 20, 2023 by Andreas.R missing pic´s 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Looks good and engine area photo is good also. My trip to Lancia museum is delayed somewhere later in the spring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 I have printed the aft details, but i have taken the dimms of the original Italeri part. It was as suspected wrong and did not fit. But i have got the right shape to fit. There is a big difference between the real thing and the original part! Now i will print it and see how it fits! Regards Andreas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 @Andreas.R Do you plan also detailed engine? I have been thinking this in my side. Of course 3D printing is option in this area or maybe making resin copy from 308/328/288 engine block. Then next thing is engine cover. Italeri is so heavy that it just don't look right. Then maybe vacuforming is option again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Hello Vesa, I'm glad you think I'm capable of something like that! However keep in mind that there are no plans (only 7 were built). I have Fujimi's 288 GTO which has almost the same engine.... But you would have to design everything else too, suspension, gearbox, intercooler, tanks etc. Take a look at the photo. I would need at least 2 years to get that done! And then the rear hood, curved shapes are not my thing. The Italeri form isn't quite right either, but it's not quite as noticeable as the other errors. The rest would be about 20% and you would have the whole vehicle in 3D. Incidentally, in the maritime modelling, entire ships are made using 3D (enclosed the link). I also have a project there that is nearing completion. I actually only make cars, especially Lancias, on the side if I want something colored. The reprinted parts all fit very well especially the cockpit looks very good! photos to follow. Regards Andreas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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