THEscaleSHOW Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 14 hours ago, danbuoy said: Nice detail so far on this! Must admit that although I knew these were used as ambulances, I never considered that they would have a different interior. Just assumed stretchers would be placed along the seats and on the floor. When I spontaneously decided to build the ambulance variant, I assumed that there would be hundreds of pictures. Surprisingly, this only applies to exterior shots and even after hours of searching and researching in forums and books, I found nothing useful about the interior. Only an older post at ML has brought clarity and - how could it be otherwise, made the hurdles even greater. Officially, no ambulance version of the U.S. Halftracks, both the White M2 and M3 and the International Harvester M5 and M9, was ever developed or put into production. Therefore, all of the Halftracks used as ambulances by Allied forces during World War II were field modifications. It appears that the seats, etc., were removed from the fighting compartment to provide a flat surface on which stretchers could be loaded. The remaining space was probably used to store first aid supplies from regular ambulances. So if you want to build an ambulance version, scratchbuilding is the way to go. If you work logically and think in terms of the paramedics of the time, you should get a usable result 🤔 I have some pictures as a source of inspiration and try my best 🤓 There are enough pictures from outside. Parts of the interior of a M14 as a template for my build. Scout cars were also converted. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muchmirth Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Cracking bit of research their and applaud your scratch building to make something unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbuoy Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, THEscaleSHOW said: When I spontaneously decided to build the ambulance variant, I assumed that there would be hundreds of pictures. Surprisingly, this only applies to exterior shots and even after hours of searching and researching in forums and books, I found nothing useful about the interior. Only an older post at ML has brought clarity and - how could it be otherwise, made the hurdles even greater. Officially, no ambulance version of the U.S. Halftracks, both the White M2 and M3 and the International Harvester M5 and M9, was ever developed or put into production. Therefore, all of the Halftracks used as ambulances by Allied forces during World War II were field modifications. It appears that the seats, etc., were removed from the fighting compartment to provide a flat surface on which stretchers could be loaded. The remaining space was probably used to store first aid supplies from regular ambulances. So if you want to build an ambulance version, scratchbuilding is the way to go. If you work logically and think in terms of the paramedics of the time, you should get a usable result 🤔 I have some pictures as a source of inspiration and try my best 🤓 There are enough pictures from outside. Parts of the interior of a M14 as a template for my build. Scout cars were also converted. My research came up blank too. I'd always assumed any halftrack ambulances were field modifications, but was never sure how far they went. Removing the seats does make sense. Will you be installing brackets so that stretchers can be stacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEscaleSHOW Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, danbuoy said: My research came up blank too. I'd always assumed any halftrack ambulances were field modifications, but was never sure how far they went. Removing the seats does make sense. Will you be installing brackets so that stretchers can be stacked? I will build metal supports on the left and right with U-shaped supports. That way you can transport 3 stretchers. In the front part, near the tanks, boxes with dressing material and a seat will be mounted. 3 hours ago, Muchmirth said: Cracking bit of research their and applaud your scratch building to make something unique. Thank you sir! I may have been a bit gullible in my approach to the project, but military ambulances are always something special and show in a certain way that war only creates suffering. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Nothing like making life difficult..... The back of the M3 is a big open canvas once stripped out so if I was responsible for creating an ambulance I'd just copy/pinch and adapt what had already been done when converting other vehicles. Looking forward to seeing how this works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEscaleSHOW Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Jasper dog said: Nothing like making life difficult..... The back of the M3 is a big open canvas once stripped out so if I was responsible for creating an ambulance I'd just copy/pinch and adapt what had already been done when converting other vehicles. Looking forward to seeing how this works out. Yes, I can really go for it now. Unfortunately my pictures only show a few details, but enough to get an idea 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEscaleSHOW Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hello folks Today it's about the front parts of the M3. I have to deviate again from the plan, because some parts became victims of the saw. Therefore, I could not glue the remaining parts according to instructions. In addition, separate assemblies were necessary to add missing details and to facilitate the subsequent painting. So once again the rule applied: "think first, then glue". MD Let's start with the smallest part, the 2mm distributor. 7 holes with 0.3mm diameter 🤓 Ignition cables are installed. In addition, cables of the generator and the fuel line to the carburetor. The engine firewall has been poorly rendered by Dragon 👎 This is waiting for me... In the instructions, many parts are glued, but that no longer works for me. So I had to make 2 assemblies that are still to be separated from each other. Again sawed and temporarily attached the side panels. So one or the other could be glued. It is important to work precisely so that everything fits later. The interior can be easily detailed later. The new firewall. Here are the 2 assemblies that are supposed to be glued according to the instructions. Now i can use the parts as I wish-here is a test fit. I had to glue the engine because the starter is connected to the transmission. But I can still get to the parts for later painting. See you! 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbuoy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Coming together nicely, and great detail added on the engine! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjbartos Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Very nice and precise work MD, I really like the work that you have done by adding cabling to the engine, looks very effective. Keep going It's all looking great... Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Sorry MD, I somehow missed the engine before. The extra details do help and bring it to life. Good work.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartH Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Incredible detailing on the engine and the cabling looks spot on 👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor L Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Looking great. I need to get me some of those clamps, instead of using rubber bands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Lovely work MD, particularly creating the distributor cap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo rsv Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Impressive detailing work MD, this is going to be a cracker. Wayne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Lovely engine work. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEscaleSHOW Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Hello all I have spent the last few days continuing to detalize the engine in a somewhat acceptable way. The focus here is on the left side, because that will be good to see later. I also added checker plates to the fighting compartment, so that I can now install holders for stretchers etc. It's funny that I bought PE sets that were almost as expensive as the whole model and haven't used any of them yet. I'm sure many of you have noticed that the highly praised PE parts are sometimes not usable because they are too thin or just don't match the original. I will therefore look very closely at the next projects, what really has to be, or where plastic sheet is better and cheaper. In addition, some parts are so small and almost impossible to process (unless you're a masochist) that they disappear into a box never to be seen again. From the wasted money I could have already bought many new glasses (or beer) 😁 Cheers! The support frame for the flaps was completely missing. The cooler is fitted, but not yet glued. So you can paint the engine better. I ground the fan blades thinner. Dragon had only indicated the V-belts - I had to change that. Good references help a lot. As already said-so you can put everything together separately and check the installed parts. The checker plate I have from the ship modeling accessories. So far everything fits together 😁 See you! 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 You are adding some lovely detail there ... with you on the usefulness, or otherwise, of PE (and it's price). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Very high quality work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Great detailing work and totally agree on p/e sets, usually less than half the parts are useable or fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Awesome detailing MD, really impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjbartos Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 That looks amazing MD, you are adding so much good detail, it's good to see and learn... Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 What they ⬆️ said. Good stuff, should look the biz when painted. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Really enjoying watching your build, as always, the attention to detail is superb. Great work Darryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Yes, beautifully intricate and inspiring work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEscaleSHOW Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Ok, the finger has healed - we can go on 😁 Although I haven't done that much, the construction seems as good as done. The tracks are the last big hurdle, but it's not the building itself that needs attention, but the later painting. Let's see, I will approach it carefully. MD Seats for the medics. A new door locking system. Supports for 3 stretchers. A small storage box for accessories. A big storage box for accessories. All levers are newly made from wire. The only PE parts so far are the pedals. Steering wheel and upper part are still removable. Many trial fits were necessary. The fins for the radiator armour were much too thin in PE, so I made some from plastic card. See you! 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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