Rob de Bie Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I have a few 1/72 models with empty pylons. The lower side is simply a flat surface (see A-4 wing photo), whereas in reality you can see the bomb ejector rack and electrical connections. In a few photo-etched sets I've seen parts for that, but they are few. Therefore my question: does generic photo-etch for the lower sides of pylons exist? Sway braces would be a nice addition too. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod mcq Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1/72 Sway braces were made by True Details. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/true-details-72713-aircraft-sway-braces--376851 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT7567 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Sets of 1:72 sway braces have been done in photoetch - True Details (Squadron) was one supplier, I seem to recall Reheat may also have done them (their PE and other products catered heavily toward generic detail components). Probably at least one or two others I'm not aware of. The difficulties with a "generic" pylon detail are compounded to such a degree that I would be very surprised if you could find such a product in 1:72. First, although the lug spacing for weapons is standardized, the details of each pylon - in many cases even different pylons on the same aircraft - are often unique. Add to that the fact that each kit manufacturer maintains varying degrees of accuracy and scale fidelity for their representations of those pylons in each kit. Couple all of the above with the very small actual size of these details in 1:72, and a useful generic set quickly trends toward practical impossibility. Your best bet is probably looking for kit/airframe-specific PE detail sets that do include these sorts of details. Absent that you might be able to adapt PE details designed for small-scale (1:700 or under) ships - portholes, watertight doors, etc. - to find sets of basic shapes in PE that could be repurposed as a reasonable approximation. You might also look into "option parts" for Gundam-type kits. Those product lines include some fairly extensive generic PE and injection molded sets designed for added detailing/customization of the base kits. It might require trimming the parts you want from a larger detail/pattern but worth looking into. Wave and Kotobukiya are two companies with extensive offerings of this type. Edited October 9, 2022 by CT7567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, CT7567 said: I seem to recall Reheat may also have done them (their PE and other products catered heavily toward generic detail components). Probably at least one or two others I'm not aware of. PP Aeroparts https://www.scalemates.com/kits/pp-aeroparts-ac708-180-stores-sway-braces--999761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Rod, CT7567 and Dave, thanks for the suggestions! True Details, Reheat and PP Aeroparts are great names from the past, and I often snap them up when I see their sets at model shows. But it's been years since I found the last one.. I looked again at what available for the A-4, and it turns out that Eduard's set for the Hobby Boss kit has what I want: five pylon lower sides, and a bunch of sway braces. Hurray! Except that I will not use most of the rest. Rob Edited October 9, 2022 by Rob de Bie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Rob de Bie said: Rod, CT7567 and Dave, thanks for the suggestions! True Details, Reheat and PP Aeroparts are great names from the past, and I often snap them up when I see their sets at model shows. But it's been years since I found the last one.. I looked again at what available for the A-4, and it turns out that Eduard's set for the Hobby Boss kit has what I want: five pylon lower sides, and a bunch of sway braces. Hurray! Except that I will not use most of the rest. Rob The new owners of Squadron Mail Order plan on bringing back True Details in the future. As to how much will be new or mostly items now oop is anybodies guess. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I recently tried to make my own sway braces using thin plastic rod and plastic card. They on my WIP F-84F They came out pretty well when you consider my arthritis! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 11 hours ago, e8n2 said: The new owners of Squadron Mail Order plan on bringing back True Details in the future. As to how much will be new or mostly items now oop is anybodies guess. Later, Dave That is excellent news! But where is my shopping list from 10+ years ago.. Rob 3 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: I recently tried to make my own sway braces using thin plastic rod and plastic card. They on my WIP F-84F They came out pretty well when you consider my arthritis! Martin Nice work indeed! Here's the link to the posting with sway braces: Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I just sent Squadron.com an e-mail about this discussion and the url for it. Maybe it will help in getting what you need. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 10:44 PM, e8n2 said: I just sent Squadron.com an e-mail about this discussion and the url for it. Maybe it will help in getting what you need. Later, Dave I got a response this morning from Squadron: "Hey Dave, Very interesting... we will take a look! Thanks for the heads up." That was from Brandon Lowe, the chief cook and bottle washer at Squadron. Could be a generic response, but took them over a week and a half so who knows. Later, Dave Edited October 26, 2022 by e8n2 Correct last name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 hours ago, e8n2 said: I got a response this morning from Squadron: "Hey Dave, Very interesting... we will take a look! Thanks for the heads up." That was from Brandon Cook, the chief cook and bottle washer at Squadron. Could be a generic response, but took them over a week and a half so who knows. Later, Dave Thanks for your effort! Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Rob de Bie said: Thanks for your effort! Rob I messed up the guy's last name. It is Lowe, not Cook. Fixed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orso Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I haven't seen any of the 3d decal instrument panels. Is that technic good enough to produce the lower side of pylons? I was thinking that it would be soft enough to trim over sized prints. If so a slightly large print could be made to fit different kits pylons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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