JWM Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Hi, Ryan PT-22 Recruit was a basic trainer in late 1930s and early 1940s in US. There were few kits of this machine produced in 1/72 ( https://www.scalemates.com/kits/special-hobby-sh72064-ryan-pt-22-recruit--103722/timeline ). As we can learn from above link one of them is a originally MPM kit of Ryan PT-20 from 1999, then re-issued with new resin parts to get PT-22 by Special Hobby in 2004. However this model was not flow-free - for example it was a subject of critics due to all wrong shapes of u/c. I had this kit waiting in stash from perhaps 2006 (bought already at a second hand market). If you look into box you could find a complete kit of PT-20 and a lot of resin parts including new tail, engine, front of fuselage , propeller and this mentioned wrong shaped u/c... The idea came to me (already when I got it), that if I would copy in resin only few parts (the basic one, thought) like wings and fuselage I can multiply this single kit into two: the PT-20 (STM) and PT-22. Moreover, the PT-22 existed in two variants: with straight and swept wings so to make the model even more distinguishable next idea came to me - to do the swept wing PT-22a and STM. Finally, after waiting some 16 years (!) I copied the wings and fuselage as well as cockpit floor and instrument desks. I used a general use silicone from a cartridge and then a Distal Classic resin glue as resin. Here are the forms - for wings (the roll of tape is just to keep it open): and for one of fuselage half: The copied elements has a lot of quality issues, so a lot of additions had to be sanded out and a lot of voids needed to be filled up with filler. I cut the wing into two pieces and made it glued with swept. In the top of picture you can see the original wing. Similar with fuselage. Here is opposite, on top one can see all resin fuselage for PT-22 (front from box, the main part from my resin casting, I made a late style u/c with all fairing removed, so the bare steel tubing left. I made them from o 0.7 mm diameter injection needles. I made a shaft for prop from a brass rode (1.2 mm diameter) and prop bearing from a brass tube of external diameter 2 mm. Rigging by EZ. Decals from drawer. Here is the results: And two more shots showing prop rotating The STM should come here soon... Comments welcome Regards Jerzy-Wojtek P.S. This is mine #22/2022 Edited October 15, 2022 by JWM PT 22a changed into PT 22 A 40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Hi Jerzy This is a very interesting subject and you made a very nice kit. Patrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Looks really nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Lovely work! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 9:24 PM, VG 33 said: Hi Jerzy This is a very interesting subject and you made a very nice kit. Patrick Hi Patrick, many thanks! It was a bit of work with all this home casting... The biggest problem is that the Distal Classic resin glue, which has very nice mechanical properties is not available currently, so I have to search for a replacement for near casting works. On 10/10/2022 at 5:21 PM, Vesa Jussila said: Looks really nice Vessa, many thanks! I think you like civil machines. I realized, that the current war had some impact on my modelling - I prefer to build now things without bombs or guns... I was planning also to do a series of Soviet models this year but I also changed it to series of small trainers or secondliners.... On 10/11/2022 at 12:37 AM, AdrianMF said: Lovely work! Regards, Adrian Adrian, many thanks! BTW - I was in September in UK for a week, namely in York. I managed to visit Elvington museum which was very nice to see! Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACALAIN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 21:55, JWM said: Hi, Ryan PT-22 Recruit was a basic trainer in late 1930s and early 1940s in US. There were few kits of this machine produced in 1/72 ( https://www.scalemates.com/kits/special-hobby-sh72064-ryan-pt-22-recruit--103722/timeline ). As we can learn from above link one of them is a originally MPM kit of Ryan PT-20 from 1999, then re-issued with new resin parts to get PT-22 by Special Hobby in 2004. However this model was not flow-free - for example it was a subject of critics due to all wrong shapes of u/c. I had this kit waiting in stash from perhaps 2006 (bought already at a second hand market). If you look into box you could find a complete kit of PT-20 and a lot of resin parts including new tail, engine, front of fuselage , propeller and this mentioned wrong shaped u/c... The idea came to me (already when I got it), that if I would copy in resin only few parts (the basic one, thought) like wings and fuselage I can multiply this single kit into two: the PT-20 (STM) and PT-22. Moreover, the PT-22 existed in two variants: with straight and swept wings so to make the model even more distinguishable next idea came to me - to do the swept wing PT-22a and STM. Finally, after waiting some 16 years (!) I copied the wings and fuselage as well as cockpit floor and instrument desks. I used a general use silicone from a cartridge and then a Distal Classic resin glue as resin. Here are the forms - for wings (the roll of tape is just to keep it open): and for one of fuselage half: The copied elements has a lot of quality issues, so a lot of additions had to be sanded out and a lot of voids needed to be filled up with filler. I cut the wing into two pieces and made it glued with swept. In the top of picture you can see the original wing. Similar with fuselage. Here is opposite, on top one can see all resin fuselage for PT-22 (front from box, the main part from my resin casting, I made a late style u/c with all fairing removed, so the bare steel tubing left. I made them from o 0.7 mm diameter injection needles. I made a shaft for prop from a brass rode (1.2 mm diameter) and prop bearing from a brass tube of external diameter 2 mm. Rigging by EZ. Decals from drawer. Here is the results: And two more shots showing prop rotating The STM should come here soon... Comments welcome Regards Jerzy-Wojtek P.S. This is mine #22/2022 Nice and courageous Alain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Excellent workmanship ! Wulfman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Stunning piece of modelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapam Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Amazing work and such a beautiful result!! 👏👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 2:58 PM, MACALAIN said: Nice and courageous Alain Alain, many thanks! On 10/13/2022 at 7:41 PM, Wulfman said: Excellent workmanship ! Wulfman I appreciate, thank you On 10/13/2022 at 8:00 PM, wellsprop said: Stunning piece of modelling Very kind of you, many thanks! On 10/14/2022 at 5:50 AM, kapam said: Amazing work and such a beautiful result!! 👏👏 Many, many thanks! It was a nice time to play with this conversion and multiplication single box content into two models... Today I finished STM build from the rest of parts from the box (plus very small scratching of windscreens). It is here Regards and thanks again for comments! J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Always beautiful work. I do like the interwar "Yellow Wings" US schemes. So bright and cheerfully and hopefull... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Hi Jerzy, this was a daring project, but you did yourself proud. This is a fantastic result. Congrats. JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army_Air_Force Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Looks great. They are a bit fiddly, but produce a nice model. This is mine that I did a few years ago after flying the fullsize example based with the Real Aeroplane Company at Breighton Aerodrome. I cut and swept the original kit wings and used the resin tail and front fuselage modification. I scratch built the landing gear from brass as the kit version was faired in where the aircraft I flew had open struts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 17 hours ago, John_W said: Always beautiful work. I do like the interwar "Yellow Wings" US schemes. So bright and cheerfully and hopefull... Mnay thanks. I have found a photo from Tuscon (AZ) from May 1942, where you have mixed PT22 and PT22A all still with yellow wings and tails but some with strips on rudder and red center of stars, and some already without them if you look carefully: https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/5b/05b5a3d4-8ada-11e8-884b-23d04fa11434/5b4fbf43c6aae.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C937 I decided to go for a more colorful one (strips and red centers of stars) 17 hours ago, jean said: Hi Jerzy, this was a daring project, but you did yourself proud. This is a fantastic result. Congrats. JR Jean many thanks! I appreciete it I was also considered just building a single model from the kit, but I was strongly tempted, that copying in resin few (most important though) parts like fuselage and wings I can multiply very rare kit into two models... 13 hours ago, Army_Air_Force said: Looks great. They are a bit fiddly, but produce a nice model. This is mine that I did a few years ago after flying the fullsize example based with the Real Aeroplane Company at Breighton Aerodrome. I cut and swept the original kit wings and used the resin tail and front fuselage modification. I scratch built the landing gear from brass as the kit version was faired in where the aircraft I flew had open struts. I never even seen PT22... Your build looks very nice and precise. Many thanks for your comment and sharing photo of your model! Best ragards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty84 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Wow, some great casting work. Very nice! Cheers Markus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Keg Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 From a glob of resin into a masterpiece that belongs in a museum. I stand in awe my friend!!!! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/16/2022 at 11:20 PM, Shorty84 said: Wow, some great casting work. Very nice! Cheers Markus Thank you! I am searching now for a replacement for Distal Classic resin, since it became not available, I do not know for how long... On 10/17/2022 at 10:08 AM, Sky Keg said: From a glob of resin into a masterpiece that belongs in a museum. I stand in awe my friend!!!! Mike Mike, many many thanks! I appreciate your very kind comment. Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamant Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Excelent model !!! It looks really good. Cheers Santiago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACALAIN Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 21:55, JWM said: Hi, Ryan PT-22 Recruit was a basic trainer in late 1930s and early 1940s in US. There were few kits of this machine produced in 1/72 ( https://www.scalemates.com/kits/special-hobby-sh72064-ryan-pt-22-recruit--103722/timeline ). As we can learn from above link one of them is a originally MPM kit of Ryan PT-20 from 1999, then re-issued with new resin parts to get PT-22 by Special Hobby in 2004. However this model was not flow-free - for example it was a subject of critics due to all wrong shapes of u/c. I had this kit waiting in stash from perhaps 2006 (bought already at a second hand market). If you look into box you could find a complete kit of PT-20 and a lot of resin parts including new tail, engine, front of fuselage , propeller and this mentioned wrong shaped u/c... The idea came to me (already when I got it), that if I would copy in resin only few parts (the basic one, thought) like wings and fuselage I can multiply this single kit into two: the PT-20 (STM) and PT-22. Moreover, the PT-22 existed in two variants: with straight and swept wings so to make the model even more distinguishable next idea came to me - to do the swept wing PT-22a and STM. Finally, after waiting some 16 years (!) I copied the wings and fuselage as well as cockpit floor and instrument desks. I used a general use silicone from a cartridge and then a Distal Classic resin glue as resin. Here are the forms - for wings (the roll of tape is just to keep it open): and for one of fuselage half: The copied elements has a lot of quality issues, so a lot of additions had to be sanded out and a lot of voids needed to be filled up with filler. I cut the wing into two pieces and made it glued with swept. In the top of picture you can see the original wing. Similar with fuselage. Here is opposite, on top one can see all resin fuselage for PT-22 (front from box, the main part from my resin casting, I made a late style u/c with all fairing removed, so the bare steel tubing left. I made them from o 0.7 mm diameter injection needles. I made a shaft for prop from a brass rode (1.2 mm diameter) and prop bearing from a brass tube of external diameter 2 mm. Rigging by EZ. Decals from drawer. Here is the results: And two more shots showing prop rotating The STM should come here soon... Comments welcome Regards Jerzy-Wojtek P.S. This is mine #22/2022 I have post part 1 of my Spanish Civl War AC. Alain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 11:14 PM, diamant said: Excelent model !!! It looks really good. Cheers Santiago Santiago, many thanks. As you may see I also like to do a series but in my case it is only few (two or three, very rarely four) models ... Therefore I admire so much yours father capability! On 12/7/2022 at 10:58 AM, MACALAIN said: I have post part 1 of my Spanish Civl War AC. Alain Many thanks! I've seen, made coments and likes and now waiting for more.... Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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