Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 We have two slots allocated for Classic groupbuilds in 2023. These are slightly longer than a standard GB. This year we have only had one proposal for a Classic GB - @JOCKNEY 's Japanese Kits GB. This has now gained enough votes for the Bunfight, but I am proposing to give it one of the Classic slots. We are awaiting a proposal for the second classic slot. Given that in the past couple of years we have had Heller, Airfix, Matchbox, Revell and Monogram, these are not eligible for 2023. I think I viable option would be an Italian Kits Classic GB. This would give us the choice of building Esci, Itaeri, Supermodel, Tauro... Do you remember when Italeri was Italaerei? Or even Aliplast? What do you think? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I think someone had proposed the Classic Italian a while back...will have to go for a dig and see if I can find it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios16v Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Found it. I was from last year. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235088911-the-italian-job-classic-gb/ Don't know if @JOCKNEY would want to run 2 classics back to back though. I know they can be a massive undertaking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, helios16v said: Don't know if @JOCKNEY would want to run 2 classics back to back though. I know they can be a massive undertaking. I'm sure that there will be someone who would be willing. And it doesn't have to be a solo job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 For me Italeiri and or Esci were right up there with Airfix and matchbox as a kid. So yes I’d vote for Italian classics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, helios16v said: Found it. I was from last year. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235088911-the-italian-job-classic-gb/ Don't know if @JOCKNEY would want to run 2 classics back to back though. I know they can be a massive undertaking. I'm up for it if I can get some help from the usual suspects It will limit my participation in other GBs but I don't want to let anyone down Cheers Pat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Well I’m up to help out, assuming I don’t have multiple GBs to run simultaneously and pending my health/employment/marital/sanity status for 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Marklo said: pending my sanity status for 2023. You are a member of the BM GB Massive. That status is always in question... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I would support such a GB, whether I'm available to provide any meaningful help would depend upon whether I'm actually working in (ironically), Italy or at home. If I'm at home, count me in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I like this suggestion. Models of IItaleri - there were my first steps in a hobby. I am ready to support GB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Classic Italian kits should be the second slot, and If needed Pat @JOCKNEY I can help out pending what ever else I'm hosting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Oh no! What's happened to @JOCKNEY's FROG Squad II? I was looking forward to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I was a backer of the Italian Classics so that's me happy! Though wouldn't 'mind another Frog one, or an Airfix- just anything old really! And happy to co-host with classics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) May I throw in a wildcard. What about SMER or PM both have been going since the seventies.…. Or even Mistercraft who are going since 2001 so scrape the technical definition of classic I.e. more than 20 years old. Edited September 27, 2022 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 The situation has changed slightly. Well... not the situation, but my understanding of it. The FROG Squad II GB gained sufficient votes to go into the bunfight. I initially thought it wasn't eligible due to the three year rule. However, that's because time flys when your having fun. FROG Squad I took place in 2019. So that means that Classic Japanese and FROG Squad II were proposed and gained votes in the usual way. Classic Italian was just my suggestion. It hasn't been formally proposed yet. If someone can propose it and get sufficient votes between now and the end of October, we can have a Classic Bunfight. Otherwise the Classics for 2023 will be Classic Japanese and FROG Squad II. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Oh I'm so confused, and not just by Britmodeller. But in this haven of comparative calm, I was sure I'd signed up for a classic Italeri GB for next year and that in turn had been broadened to include Esci, to make a Classic Italian GB It probably had some catchy title like The Italian Job but no way can I find any trace of it now🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Found it! (first time I've ever found anything) Should've known that @JOCKNEY would be in the mix😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 You are quite right. I've been looking back through the archives and cannot find any reason why it wasn't included in the calendar for this year. So... there are two options: Classic Bunfight - three candidates for two slots I take one of the empty STGB slots, do a little GB voodoo and convert it to a Classic slot. We have three Classic next year What does the BMGB Massiv say? 20 minutes ago, Mjwomack said: Oh I'm so confused, and not just by Britmodeller. But in this haven of comparative calm, I was sure I'd signed up for a classic Italeri GB for next year and that in turn had been broadened to include Esci, to make a Classic Italian GB It probably had some catchy title like The Italian Job but no way can I find any trace of it now🤪 18 minutes ago, Mjwomack said: Found it! (first time I've ever found anything) Should've known that @JOCKNEY would be in the mix😁 You are quite right. I've been looking back through the archives and cannot find any reason why it wasn't included in the calendar for this year. So... there are two options: Classic Bunfight - three candidates for two slots I take one of the empty STGB slots, do a little GB voodoo and convert it to a Classic slot. We have three Classics next year What does the BMGB Massiv say? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARADER Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I like the GB voodoo option😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 My recent track record isn't the greatest but I throw in my anyway. The classic GB:s last nowadays 5 months per piece and slamming three of them in one GB year would either overlap them with eachother or stretch one of them to 2024 anyway. Thus, I support status quo which means having only two classics per year. They become even on this 3 year cycle quickly too repetitive. I wouldn't mind thinning down the number of STGB:s either, just because they do suffer from repetitiveness. Compared with fresh, unrestricting and virgin GB subjects these Mustang/Spitfire/Phantom/Bf109/youknowhatever STGB #7:s just don't deserve the same treatment. On the other hand, or better yet third hand, it'd be good to have a calendar slot vacant for not-so-long-planned, carpe diem group builds whose idea and importance pop-up due sudden things in real world, requiring immediate execution or they'd soon be outdated. Also, some GB:s based on historical dates and anniversaries should come outside the Bunfight too. The end. V-P 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Classic Bunfight for me to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, vppelt68 said: Also, some GB:s based on historical dates and anniversaries should come outside the Bunfight too. That does actually happen. I can issue an executive order for subjects of historical importance. I have done it for the Platinum Jubilee GB this year and also for the NATO anniversary GB in 2024. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Just now, Enzo Matrix said: That does actually happen. I can issue an executive order for subjects of historical importance. I have done it for the Platinum Jubilee GB this year and also for the NATO anniversary GB in 2024. I know and appreciate that a lot, thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) I think having three Classic GBs would be too many. Better to stick with just two. As an alternative to having a Classic Bunfight, how about simply having 'first come, first served'? The order in which the current three Classic contenders qualified (i.e. got 30 votes) was: Italian (18th June 2021) Japanese (21st August 2021) FROG (22nd May 2022) It would seem fair therefore that Italian and Japanese should take the two 2023 slots and FROG should take the first 2024 slot. I'm not sure whether the bunfight concept really applies to the Classic GBs, as one of the bunfight's purposes is to sort the wheat from the chaff (i.e. the losers are exiled and banned from participating again). I'm assuming that there's no intention to 'exile' any of the current three Classic contenders - we're simply trying to decide the order in which they should run. Going forward, if we're fixing the concept of two Classic GBs per year, then available slots could be allocated immediately a new Classic GB qualifies. Edited October 7, 2022 by CliffB Correcting the qualification dates 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I apologise for being the cause of all this angst over which classic GB goes forward and when (guilty your honour ) I honestly don't mind which goes forward, however I agree 3 would be too many leading to a danger of lots of unfinished builds and feeling like none of them had been done properly. Either way it looks like I'm going to be a busy boy ! Cheers Pat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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