Marklo Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Deathtraps; dysfunctional, defective or otherwise dangerous’ Getting there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Title changed. Actually I’d love to include U1206 ( which I now can ) late in the war the sub was equipped with a new toilet design. The captain Adolf Schlitt, used said same new head but couldn’t figure out how to flush it properly he called on the engineering team to help who opened the wrong valve flooding the head, the sub ended up sinking as a result…… Edited September 14, 2022 by Marklo 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jb65rams Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I would be interested in this. Was planning a French Schneider CA Tank for the proposed “The stuff you wouldn't want to go to war in” GB. It still sitting in the stash. Wiki has the following to say about the Schneider. “The vehicle was considered a very imperfect design, because of a poor layout, insufficient fire-power, a cramped interior and inferior mobility due to an overhanging nose section, which had been designed to crush through the belts of barbed wire but in practice caused the tank to get stuck. The first combat actions showed that the fuel reservoirs were prone to explode when the vehicle was hit by an artillery round. To remedy this the reservoirs were replaced by fuel tanks with a double wall, using a felt filler layer to absorb gasoline leakages. Furthermore, these fuel tanks, each containing 80 L (21 US gal), were moved to a safer position under armour though still outside the hull, in vertical rectangular steel boxes to the left and right of the rear door.” The earlier post about the K class submarine also reminds me I have one of them in the stash as well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: For example- the Fairey Battle was basically a sound aircraft but was obsolete by 1940 and mis-used in action and is now widely regarded as a ‘death trap’. Also are ‘things associated with mass loss of life through no design fault’ in or out? (I’m thinking Titanic, Andrea Doria, or possibly DC10’s). Likewise the early 737 MAX-8; a lethal "fix" that was kept hidden for an anticipated problem resulting from a significant design change. The early dH/HS Trident might also be a contender due to the lack of a speed baulk and flaps interconnection on the droops retraction selection as proved by the crew of G-ARPI in June 1972. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Jb65rams said: Was planning a French Schneider CA Tank for the proposed “The stuff you wouldn't want to go to war in” GB. It still sitting in the stash. A perfect example of flawed design. So poor the Germans didn’t even bother to capture them instead preferring British Heavies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 This is shaping up well. Some really interesting subjects being proposed. 👍 I like the new heading BTW. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Count me in please Mark, with an Airfix Bond Bug. Unstable and with minimal crash protection, the Bug makes it to the dangerous list! Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 One of my favourite songs the lyrics are hilarious, the anthem of this (prospective) GB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinxman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Count me in please - need to have a poke around in the stash to see what fits in the meantime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Jinxman said: Count me in please - need to have a poke around in the stash to see what fits in the meantime. It'll be the upside down box trapped at the bottom 🤣🫣🫢 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 The Polikarpov I-16, while successful in many ways, was dangerous to fly and land. Also the GeeBee racer… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, John Masters said: The Polikarpov I-16, while successful in many ways, was dangerous to fly and land. Also the GeeBee racer… Ive often thought Polikarpov saw the GeeBee and said “This will make a great fighter”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, John Masters said: The Polikarpov I-16, while successful in many ways, was dangerous to fly and land. Also the GeeBee racer… Like a lot of dangerous racer types, the Bristol racer, the Me209 I reckon that they were basically the most powerful engine available strapped on to the smallest airframe and wings that could still fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Ive often thought Polikarpov saw the GeeBee and said “This will make a great fighter”. I think that might actually be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) @John Masters you’re not on the list shall I add you? @Pete in Lincs shall I add you in too? Edited September 24, 2022 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Marklo said: shall I add you in too? I'd love to come out to play. But I have an awful lack of free time, with a pile of stuff that I want to do that keeps mounting up. I've just had a week off work, and have managed about an hour or so of modelling time. Plus winter is coming, it gets cold out in the manshed. Sorry. I'll watch from a safe distance though. I can offer the Albemarle, Botha and DH 100 Swallow to the Aircraft list if it helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Marklo said: you’re not on the list shall I add you? Not yet. Thank you though. I’m not sure of the kind of time I will have. I’ll stay in touch regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 No problem guys. But I had to ask 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 1:03 PM, Marklo said: Funnily enough i do like the term widow makers as it’s quite direct even stark but I’m also thinking that a GB based around flawed concepts, dangerous machines and equipment with a bad rep would work better, but dangerous not just bad eg the Austin Princess although arguably the worst car ever mass produced wouldn’t qualify but the pinto would. So just come up with a catchier title and I’m game 'Death by Design' ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, IanC said: 'Death by Design' ? Might be a bit confusing as, if you think of it most of the subjects are designed for that purpose, just not to kill the owner/occupants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Marklo said: Might be a bit confusing as, if you think of it most of the subjects are designed for that purpose, just not to kill the owner/occupants. Fair point. I cribbed it from a title on my bookshelf. A highly critical study of British tank design in WW2! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Gidday, since we're discussing the title again I liked the original - "Widow Makers". It was short, sharp and straight to the point. But ultimately it's about the models themselves and I'll go with whatever's chosen. 🙂 Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Another vote for "Widow Makers", from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Two Royal Navy stinkers: HMS Captain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Captain_(1869) HMS Victoria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victoria_(1887) Cheers, Moggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdjp11 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 8:26 AM, stever219 said: Damn! That means I'm going to have to work out how to post images on here. (I know there's a "how to" thread but it might as well be written in Outer Alpha Centaurean for all the sense I can make of it ) TL;DR version of what I did: Create a Blogger account (free, run by Google) Post photos there Link to photos here Here's a link to my blog https://www.blogger.com/blog/posts/4346005353459565881 Happy to describe further via message if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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