basket Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Hello all ! I've been collecting documents about the A4D-2 from VA-36 for several months to start another Haseg Skyhawk . And ... despite some pictures and profile available on the Net depicting thoses scooters with : - black anti glare painting on the nose - a toon roadrunner on intakes , it's seems that this is wrong ( pictures seem to have been photoshoped , mixing scheme with later A-4C aircrafts ) . I came to the conclusion that these aircrafts had all early B scooters caracteristics and in particular : medium gray anti glare painting and no roadrunner on intakes . If someone has accurate infos about those VA-36 early scooters thank you to provide any ! I've always been blown out by the kwowledge shared on BM and I sincerely hope that some among you fellow modellers will confirm my analysis or , why not , provide the picture that will unconfirm it . Best Regards . Remy And ... be sure that even as a french citizen I deeply miss your formidable Queen Elizabeth II who was a truly friend of France . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Pete Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Here is a pair of A4D-2's with roadrunners on the intakes. The anti glare panel is harder to confirm. https://www.skyhawk.org/sites/default/files/images-buno-142416-142953/142870-a4d-2-ddmmm61-va-36-ac-601.jpg I've looked at the cruise books, but good pics are rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basket Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, Creepy Pete said: Here is a pair of A4D-2's with roadrunners on the intakes. The anti glare panel is harder to confirm. https://www.skyhawk.org/sites/default/files/images-buno-142416-142953/142870-a4d-2-ddmmm61-va-36-ac-601.jpg I've looked at the cruise books, but good pics are rare. Hello and thanks for searching , unfortunatelly this is the picture which was photoshoped ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McArthur Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 @basket I'm not sure why you decided that photo was photoshopped. Why would anyone bother and still end up with such a poor photo? It looks like a bad scan of an old photo to me. I spent some time looking at this and Superscale did a decal set that matches one of the planes in the photo you claim is "photoshopped". It really wouldn't surprise me if the cartoon character was added to commemorate the A-4B before they swapped the B's for C's. Thing is I haven't seen this style of the Roadrunner character on anything but B models. When VA-36 got C models it doesn't look like it had a Roadrunner on the side initially and when it did appear it was a different style. The Saratoga cruise book for 60-61 cruise has one very poor photo that really looks like a A-4B with a black glare shield and if you zoom in there is something on the side of the plane that really looks like a Roadrunner to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basket Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Thanks Steve for your reply ! Much appreciated ! In fact I'm the happy owner of an example of the decal sheet 48-763 for my project ( and I'd love to have my " bravo" adorned with the roadrunner ). To answer your question : I have a downloaded example of the photo in higher resolution , and it really seems that the areas in black such as antiglare , tactical codes , or even roundels were modified ( some pixel kind of thing around those areas and no trace of red rescue arrow ). And, I've have 2 good resolution pictures of A4D-2 of VA-36 circa 60/61 with no road runner and grey antiglare panel . It's seems roadrunner first appears on charlie models while VA-36 was on the Big E . This said ... the picture attached to your post confuses me .... again ! and maybe your supposition may be right regarding a commemorative decoration before switching to the C . Does anyone else can help ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 You say its photoshopped but it does not look so, but if you have convinced yourself of that so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basket Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Julien said: You say its photoshopped but it does not look so, but if you have convinced yourself of that so be it. I'm convinced , but it may only be a way, not to produce a fake ( thinking about it , it's seems a non sense ) but just to get a cleaner , more readable picture . Thanks Julien . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 There is another picture of the 2 VA-36 A-4Bs in the Steve Ginter's book Naval Fighters No49 credited to the USN. The picture shows both aircraft in a different position to each other, black anti-glare and Roadrunner on the intake side. Regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basket Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Thanks very much Robert . Extra help is still required , if possible . Regards to all . Remy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basket Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Hi all ! Some updates : Following Robert's infos ( thanks again for your proposal mate ) , I finally realized that I actually had the book , this one : And rediscovered on page 106 a second photograph that I'd always considered the same as the one quoted above on the second post . But it was not !!! It's another picture taken during the same flight . So , my problem is solved , my A4D-2 will have a black antiglare panel and will be adorned with the roadrunner . Thanks to everybody for the help provided , once again , you fellow BM modellers are top notch ! Regards, Remy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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