John Masters Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Antoine de Saint Exupery...pilot, writer, aircraft pioneer...and I hope the RS box profile is accurate. If some of you remember I tried to build this RS kit a couple of years ago and gave up when it was obvious that the cockpit and landing gear did not fit inside the fuselage without serious surgery, surgery I was not willing to engage in. I saved it all, including the decals. Nice looking aircraft with the French roundels... and the RS Model decals to go along wth the profiles... A venerable substitute for the RS debacle...Revell... Now, before I begin...again...The kit seems to have the alternative nose with the camera windows, etc... --John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I presume you have already noted the camera windows on the nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 I haven’t but I think I can scratch those out easily. Thanks! Any other obvious bits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 welcome along John, great to have you on board for this build. Great and interesting choice for the build....... unfortunately that's the good news! The P-38J is/was a different beast to the F-5A, namely in the design of the nacelles and radiators in the engine booms, the the canopy changed as well. Up to the P-38H the engine scoops were 2 nice round holes, from the P-38J on it was a big open mouth, plus the radiator housing were a different shape. Neither of these are simple to change. The Recon version of the P-38J was the F-5B, with the Recon nose the F-5B had a couple of extra smaller windows on the LHS of the nose. You Frog model is perfect for an F-5B, but unfortunately... Though you could go full Frankenstein and use the booms and small bits from the RS model, plus the nose and canopy, and the fuselage and wings from the Frog model. There are some other minor differences but these are not really noticeable. Sorry if I have dampened you enthusiasm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 As Rich said the J is a completely different beast. That said, the decals fit the RS model with no problem other than you have to figure out that cockpit/nose wheelwell issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 Ah, well. Thanks for the info @trickyrich and @philp. I'll abandon this topic then. Maybe I'll build something else. If the Mods would so kindly reflect this choice abandon in the threads? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 No Worries John, am sorry I was the bearer of bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Adding to what Rich has already said about the engines, I think your RS kit is actually an F-4 variant. Pretty much what I'm aiming to create with my RS build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Good afternoon John Sorry to read that but I you can find the old Revell kit https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-h-216-lockheed-p-38-f-f-4c-lightning--311341 https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-h-216-lockheed-p-38-f-f-4c-lightning--311341 you will not have to do any surgery .. Best regards Patrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, TEMPESTMK5 said: you can find the old Revell kit Thank you Patrice. I found one in Germany. I'll reestablish the thread when it arrives. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I knew you'd come up with a cunning plan....that's why I didn't hide the thread..........ok you got me i was lazy! But it all worked out good in the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, trickyrich said: But it all worked out good in the end! I hope. I’ll rename the thread when the kit arrives. I have until December to build it I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I think you've made a good choice to get the Revell kit, John. I really like the French scheme, not one I'd seen before. I'm going to look forward to seeing you build this one James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 47 minutes ago, 81-er said: I think you've made a good choice to get the Revell kit, John. I really like the French scheme, not one I'd seen before. I'm going to look forward to seeing you build this one Thanks James. The images on the auction site looked promising--no large flash and decent detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, trickyrich said: But it all worked out Thread updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 17 hours ago, John Masters said: Thanks James. The images on the auction site looked promising--no large flash and decent detail. I've got most of that kit, in case anything is unusable, and parts do look good. There's a picture of the box on my RS build thread. Given to me by a friend who can't see 1/72 properly, and has moved to 1/48. Also this Steerman, and Sabre, And I was keen to build the F-4 here, until I discovered the upper wing part (from wingtip to wingtip) to be missing. That was in Feb - I've asked him to check his garage since, AND bought that RS kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, theplasticsurgeon said: I've got most of that kit, The images on the auction site show that the sprue are still sealed in the bag. That's good sign. I wonder how easy it would be to kit-bash the RS and Revell kits? "Not very easy" is my guess...😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 The kit arrived...all's well... Boxtop... Sprue shot... Instructions for what I want to build. Clear as mud. I'll figure it out. --John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Good evening John Have fun with yiur build .. Best Regards Patrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, TEMPESTMK5 said: Have fun with yiur build .. Thank you Patrice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I'm looking forward to this one, John James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 great to see you're already to start now, looking forward to this build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Dear John Looking at the F4-C instructions, the parts look like the P-38 Pathfinder with a Bomardiers station in the nose and a clear nose. That is a very different plane than the St Expeury Photo nose in the RS kit. BTW I started the same RS kit as you and parked it half way as most of the parts did not fit very well. Nice decals though regards Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, Planebuilder62 said: Looking at the F4-C instructions, the parts look like the P-38 Pathfinder with a Bomardiers station in the nose and a clear nose. That is a very different plane than the St Expeury Photo nose in the RS kit. Don't worry about it. I'm not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Exactly the right attitude, John 👍 Build what makes you happy James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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