Faraway Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 And here I am firmly back in my comfort zone. I'm not saying my foray into the world of card/paper models was not rewarding, interesting or fun, it was all of these things. It was just that I was getting SO frustrated with how the instructions flitted about and left out fairly important steps, that if I didn't stop when I did, I'd probably do something I'd regret. So, I've walked away from it for a while. I'll definitely go back to it, but not just yet. Anyway, what do we have here ? It's one of Black Cat Models superb kits,https://blackcatmodels.eu/en/ In this instance it is a 3D printed rendition of an Infantry Landing Craft. I'm going to do her as......HMC LCI(L)-299 when she had left the control of the Royal Navy and became part of the Canadian Navy, this is a link to her history..... http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/15/150299.htm And here she is on the 6th June 1944 So off we jolly well go. First the box then the parts. So far, I've fixed the screws and rudders ready for painting. And given the hull a coat of primer. Next step will be to spray on the camo pattern and probably the deck colour. It wasn't until I started this lovely little model, that I realised how I'd forgotten just how GOOD Black Cat Models are. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 But it's an iron ship without sails. 😪 And lots of tiny tiny details too small for me. I must admit that it's an interesting choice of subject though. I'll follow along as (if I was) normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bertie McBoatface said: But it's an iron ship without sails. 😪 And lots of tiny tiny details too small for me. I must admit that it's an interesting choice of subject though. I'll follow along as (if I was) normal. Yup, no rigging, well maybe a few aerial wires and signal halyards. The parts aren’t small, I have a VERY powerful magnifying lamp. I’m thinking I might get one of BCM tank landing craft and do a beach landing diorama. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Faraway said: Yup, no rigging, well maybe a few aerial wires and signal halyards. The parts aren’t small, I have a VERY powerful magnifying lamp. I’m thinking I might get one of BCM tank landing craft and do a beach landing diorama. Jon 1/350 is too small for me mate. Actually it's not the tiny details that put me off but the smallness of the scale. I just can't imagine the people somehow, so it just feels like a machine. Does that make sense? I'm not clear myself! 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Looing forwards to this Jon - it's a beautiful kit Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Oh I've wondered if anyone ever did a model of one of these. My father dropped into Salerno and again into France on one but his unit history that has photographs of them have confusing captions and perhaps you experts can resolve please? One photo shows an LCI(L) at Salerno number 299 and it appears again in a photo of Juno beach on D Day after being repaired, apparently. Another photo of the same day shows what is described as an LCI(S) on D Day unloading the RM 41 commandos with one poor chap falling into the water right on cue. So two questions really - is the LCS(L) really a typo and should be described as an LCI(I) and what is the difference between the two types - an LCI(I) or (L) and LCI(S)? The photos are not really good enough to see. The D Day ones have a partial bow shot in one and a head on shot in the other while the Salerno photo is another bow on shot. I do fancy getting one of these and to build it for Dad even if he is long gone now. TIA as always John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich75 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnT said: Oh I've wondered if anyone ever did a model of one of these. My father dropped into Salerno and again into France on one but his unit history that has photographs of them have confusing captions and perhaps you experts can resolve please? One photo shows an LCI(L) at Salerno number 299 and it appears again in a photo of Juno beach on D Day after being repaired, apparently. Another photo of the same day shows what is described as an LCI(S) on D Day unloading the RM 41 commandos with one poor chap falling into the water right on cue. So two questions really - is the LCS(L) really a typo and should be described as an LCI(I) and what is the difference between the two types - an LCI(I) or (L) and LCI(S)? The photos are not really good enough to see. The D Day ones have a partial bow shot in one and a head on shot in the other while the Salerno photo is another bow on shot. I do fancy getting one of these and to build it for Dad even if he is long gone now. TIA as always John Hi as far as I know LCI would be landing craft infantry LCS would be landing craft support I think the (s) or (L) would denote small or large, hth, and defo take one on to remember your Dad, mine was at Dunkirk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich75 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Another cracker on the way by the looks of it, hope you get your mojo back for the card model it was coming along rather nicely I thought 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnT said: Oh I've wondered if anyone ever did a model of one of these. My father dropped into Salerno and again into France on one but his unit history that has photographs of them have confusing captions and perhaps you experts can resolve please? One photo shows an LCI(L) at Salerno number 299 and it appears again in a photo of Juno beach on D Day after being repaired, apparently. Another photo of the same day shows what is described as an LCI(S) on D Day unloading the RM 41 commandos with one poor chap falling into the water right on cue. So two questions really - is the LCS(L) really a typo and should be described as an LCI(I) and what is the difference between the two types - an LCI(I) or (L) and LCI(S)? The photos are not really good enough to see. The D Day ones have a partial bow shot in one and a head on shot in the other while the Salerno photo is another bow on shot. I do fancy getting one of these and to build it for Dad even if he is long gone now. TIA as always John I’m guessing you’ve seen this ? http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/15/150299.htm Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 looking forward to this one jon , off to a good start . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 Two coats of paint today, first Colourcoats C03 Followed a couple of hours later with Colourcoats NARN29 (MS2) My thinking here, is that it is far easier to mask the deck when painting the camo colour, NARN37 (B30). So, tomorrow I'll mask the deck and part of the hull and apply the camo, once that is dry, I'll apply the red antifoul NARN42. Plus I've put the mast together, bit of soldering and a bit of gluing. Small Nav Light on there front and the ships Bell on the back. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Not tiny at all that. You could have drilled holes, threaded them, and bolted it together. 😉 It looks very tidy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: Not tiny at all that. You could have drilled holes, threaded them, and bolted it together. 😉 It looks very tidy. D’you not think I should add a cord to the bell clapper ? Just in the interests of realism you understand. Jon 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, Faraway said: D’you not think I should add a cord to the bell clapper ? Just in the interests of realism you understand. Jon Don't be daft, just polishing the bell and engraving the ship's name will be more than adequate. 😉 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Faraway said: D’you not think I should add a cord to the bell clapper ? Just in the interests of realism you understand. 7 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: just polishing the bell and engraving the ship's name will be more than adequate. Gidday, if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well. Do both! 😁 Regards, Jeff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 NARN37 (B30) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Faraway said: NARN37 (B30) And why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Faraway said: NARN37 (B30) Looking good. Have you done anything with the print lines on the side of the hull as they look a lot less obvious that they did when you just had the hull in primer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, johndon said: Looking good. Have you done anything with the print lines on the side of the hull as they look a lot less obvious that they did when you just had the hull in primer? I’ve not, they looked worse in the photo, and the paint seems to be covering them. Jon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Blyth Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 10:07 PM, Rich75 said: Hi as far as I know LCI would be landing craft infantry LCS would be landing craft support I think the (s) or (L) would denote small or large, hth, and defo take one on to remember your Dad, mine was at Dunkirk On 8/17/2022 at 8:43 PM, JohnT said: Oh I've wondered if anyone ever did a model of one of these. My father dropped into Salerno and again into France on one but his unit history that has photographs of them have confusing captions and perhaps you experts can resolve please? One photo shows an LCI(L) at Salerno number 299 and it appears again in a photo of Juno beach on D Day after being repaired, apparently. Another photo of the same day shows what is described as an LCI(S) on D Day unloading the RM 41 commandos with one poor chap falling into the water right on cue. So two questions really - is the LCS(L) really a typo and should be described as an LCI(I) and what is the difference between the two types - an LCI(I) or (L) and LCI(S)? The photos are not really good enough to see. The D Day ones have a partial bow shot in one and a head on shot in the other while the Salerno photo is another bow on shot. I do fancy getting one of these and to build it for Dad even if he is long gone now. TIA as always John Oh yes, I’ll be making one of these as LCI(L)316, dad’s berth for operation Brassard, liberation of Elba. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Al Blyth said: Oh yes, I’ll be making one of these as LCI(L)316, dad’s berth for operation Brassard, liberation of Elba. There are a couple of crew photos here. http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/15/150316.htm Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 17/08/2022 at 22:18, Faraway said: I’m guessing you’ve seen this ? http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/15/150299.htm Jon Oh thanks for that and no I hadn't. I pulled the book about 41 RM off the shelf again and looked at the caption for the photo and its misleading. It says 299 was one of two LCI's that took 41 RM to Salerno boarding the Seaforth Highlanders. Reading on the photo shows not Salerno but its for the Sicily Landing earlier. The photo taken on 6 June 44 has the caption "299" repaired after Salerno, back in business on D Day, on Juno beach at Bernieres" IWM 123938. I had assumed it showed 41 RM but the caption does not say that so i am guessing its included as showing a typical beach shot. 41 RM were tasked with heading for and through Lion-sur-Mer just along the coast from Bernieres So 2 photos of 299 but neither for her trip to Salerno with 41 RM - Some of the photos in the book showing LCIs are almost the same as the ones on the site and clearly come from the same camera but perspective and human beings in shot have moved slightly. Fascinating stuff - thanks. Watching the build here with great interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Blyth Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Faraway said: There are a couple of crew photos here. http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/15/150316.htm Jon Hi Jon, seen those and sadly dad’s not among those photos. Only aboard for that op, maybe just for a week or so. Interestingly enough (or maybe only to me) the craft immediately behind dad’s going into the landing zone was commanded by Alec Guinness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Al Blyth said: Hi Jon, seen those and sadly dad’s not among those photos. Only aboard for that op, maybe just for a week or so. Interestingly enough (or maybe only to me) the craft immediately behind dad’s going into the landing zone was commanded by Alec Guinness. Hi Al Aye just had a re-read of my Dads unit history more carefully and edited my post above. Like your Dad mine is not in the photos either. There is a chance he was on her for Salerno. While he was on the Sicily and D Day landings too it wasn't on 299. He did Walcheren Island landings in a Buffalo. The Alec Guinness connection is interesting. Must look that up as I didn't know he was there. Dad had an officer who was the brother of John "Cats Eyes" Cunningham - the nightfighter ace. I am going to have a bash at one of these but will absorb all the build techniques and tips. Every day a school day and something new to learn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Blyth Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnT said: Hi Al Aye just had a re-read of my Dads unit history more carefully and edited my post above. Like your Dad mine is not in the photos either. There is a chance he was on her for Salerno. While he was on the Sicily and D Day landings too it wasn't on 299. He did Walcheren Island landings in a Buffalo. The Alec Guinness connection is interesting. Must look that up as I didn't know he was there. Dad had an officer who was the brother of John "Cats Eyes" Cunningham - the nightfighter ace. I am going to have a bash at one of these but will absorb all the build techniques and tips. Every day a school day and something new to learn 4 minutes ago, JohnT said: Hi Al Aye just had a re-read of my Dads unit history more carefully and edited my post above. Like your Dad mine is not in the photos either. There is a chance he was on her for Salerno. While he was on the Sicily and D Day landings too it wasn't on 299. He did Walcheren Island landings in a Buffalo. The Alec Guinness connection is interesting. Must look that up as I didn't know he was there. Dad had an officer who was the brother of John "Cats Eyes" Cunningham - the nightfighter ace. I am going to have a bash at one of these but will absorb all the build techniques and tips. Every day a school day and something new to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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