phat trev Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I have a Pegasus Hawker Woodcock kit but it has a major issue... Only one fuselage side is in the box 😢  Looking at ways around this issue, my first thought was to get a replica (in reverse) of the only side available. Hmm, can anyone relate and how easy is it to get a single part made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 hhmmm......wasn't there a build log here not so long since with a very similar issue?? They scratch built a new half, and it didn't look like it was that difficult an operation. AdrianMF maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 No maybes about it. @AdrianMFit certainly was. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 Thanks will search around for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 14 hours ago, phat trev said: Hmm, can anyone relate and how easy is it to get a single part made? thread referred to  but I also recommend this  https://rclibrary.co.uk/title_details.asp?ID=1216  download here https://rclibrary.co.uk/download_title.asp?ID=1216  Old but still fascinating, lots of different techniques explained.  Given Pegasus reputation, it maybe easier  to just build a new fuselage, see the section on various methods in the above. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 It is a shame actually the moulding of all the remaining parts is very good-compared to what I have seen or have built from Pegasus short run kits in the past, the detail is pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Hi Trev I scratch built a 1/72 scale Woodcock many moons ago (before Pegasus produced their kit), using the Alfred Granger Data Plan Woodcock booklet drawings. They're especially useful because of the fuselage cross sections. I used an Airfix Bulldog engine and mount and wheels. My model didn't survive house moves, but I retained all of the parts and started a rebuild/renovation a year or so ago. I'll try and post some pics (not mastered a different method since Photobucket changed) Cheers Al 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just attempted to post images from Dropbox...unsuccessfully. Â Cheers Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I feel it Al, I am totally hopeless at posting pictures. Takes me hours just to do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Al Gunthwaite said: Just attempted to post images from Dropbox...unsuccessfully.  Cheers Al I don't think you can. Images must be somewhere publically accessible online, ideally a photo hosting site. I use Flickr, find it works well.  lets see  OK, I just checked, Dropbox, goto image, right click image, select copy image address, paste that into post, get a load of text, and then the image shows. Do NOT use the insert image box. Proof.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 I am attempting Pinterest to hold images, let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, phat trev said: I am attempting Pinterest to hold images, let's see. you can cut and paste them in, I occasionally find something relevant there and do that.  But, I find Flickr works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: But, I find Flickr works well. What Troy says, it works very well, I use it & can drop images from my camera to the computer, edit/resize them, upload to Flickr & post them here in just a few minutes. It is pretty much instinctive. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 On 15/08/2022 at 22:17, phat trev said: I have a Pegasus Hawker Woodcock kit but it has a major issue... Only one fuselage side is in the box 😢  Looking at ways around this issue, my first thought was to get a replica (in reverse) of the only side available. Hmm, can anyone relate and how easy is it to get a single part made? Try contacting someone with a 3D printer. Some who own these printers can be helpful whilst others are not Basically and generally the two sides of the fuselage are the same.  They could scan the side you have, flip it and print out that mirrored part 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 A bit late, but photos of my 1/72 scale scratchbuilt Woodcock (from the Alfred Grainger Plans)...  smashed in a tin after various house moves..  Main components...  Removing the plastic card skin from the fuselage  Start of the rebuild: a transfer for the instrument panel  Sizing the instrument panel:  The rebuild is current a project on hiatus, but it will get sorted one day!  Cheers Al   4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Love the box Al, very appropiate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Looks like there is a Gauntlet in there and also a Gamecock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Gunthwaite Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 There certainly is: The Gamecock was scratch built from the Grainger plans and the Gauntlet converted from a Heller Gladiator. The Gamecock will be rebuilt one day. Al  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeELL Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Whilst I have a 3D resin printer and would love to help, the ‘scan and mirror’ option suggested by Black Knight isn’t really a ‘home set-up’ option as yet.  If you watched the first Hornby series on TV recently you would have seen the work required to correct the the 3D scan LIDAR anomalies - and they used very expensive, professional equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Hi there,  My Albacore thread does drone on, so this is the post that explains what I did. You can also add to step 3 "Add card shelves to stick your wings and tailplanes to". Fill up as much space as you can between the bulkheads with balsa or even foam packing to minimise the amount of filler you need. Auto body filler or milliput is what you need, it's too thick for solvent-based fillers.  I won't drone on again so I will leave it there, although I'm happy to help if you want to go that route.  And if you aren't comfortable with it, we have just the right GB for you to do it in  Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidl Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Trev What Adrian says is spot on Troy's reference to Harry Woodman's book is also really good value This isn't like signing up to be the next professor of the Dark Arts at Hogwarts ! You don't have to be afraid of not getting a perfect result with your first attempt - You are just trying to create a shape over which to mold a new part. This won't require any expensive or fancy equipment either You already have one half of the shape you need to recreate - all you need now is a base in plastic card the same shape as the side on profile of the fuselage If ind it helpful to stroke a straight line from the centre of the propeller to a fixed point on the tail end of the fuselage This can be your Datum against which you mark the mid point of your profile shape Next grab some light cardboard a bit of manila folder (ordinary office file) will do Find a bit of thick solder wire bout 2 inches long (copper wire is sometimes OK - you just want something that will hold a shape ) A profile gauge is handy if you have one Identify a point on the side profile and lay the solder wire down inside your existing fuselage half at the same point and press it down to get the shape of the interior. When you're done lift this out carefully and transfer the outside shape to the cardboard When you have lifted (made) the required number of profiles you can use these cardboard profiles to make plastic card half sections which you glue to your side profile you can then build your mold from there It really isn't hard !  It is critical to remember that your mold must be slightly smaller all round when compared to the shape you are duplication to allow for the thickness new material David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 On 07/05/2023 at 00:52, davidl said: lay the solder wire down inside your existing fuselage half I would tend to go round the outside of the fuselage because the plastic can be quite thick and uneven in a short run kit. When tracing the shape, keep just inside the line to allow for the thickness of the moulded material - the taper on a pencil point will probably be enough, and when you cut out the former don't forget to allow for the width of the profile card that you will be sticking the former to. Â Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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