Iceman 29 Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 Indeed Steve! 🙄 I continued to draw the back of the second bridge, which is rather complicated. A great set of very very useful photos retrieved from the french defense server. Some of them are very nice. I hadn't thought of searching this site for some reason. 🙄 https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/fr/catalogsearch/result/?q=cuirassé&avec_visuel=1 These are detail pictures which was very rare at the time. It allows you to see some details that you can't see on the usual wide shot photos. I put some pictures of a canoe from Strasbourg that could be useful. There are also some pictures of the Courbet, interesting for the projectors among other things. Click twice to get the right resolution. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne. Bretagne., exit from the refit. Secret image for a long time, the name is deleted. 47mm gun and sight. Service boat of the Strasbourg. It's time to eat in front of the kitchen. The loading pole at the top right is used for loading coal. Note the lamp post, there is very little deck lighting on this ship. This is often the case on warships. But on this type of battleship it is very minimalist. Bretagne. Loading of 340 mm shells between turret A and B probably. Excellent view of the Bretagne. crane, the spire is not openwork. Bretagne. Scrap 340mm guns. Courbet. Courbet, the only detail view of a remote-controlled projector. Rangefinder, amusing the balancing weights. Lorraine. Lorraine, you can see the riveting of the turret roof. The carriage foot of the 47 mm gun. Spiral grooves near the ladder to prevent slipping. Lorraine. Provence. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 You have to love deck shots, the holy grail of ship modelling..... Wonderful work as ever, this thread is a major resource for those coming behind with the courage to tackle such a complex subject Cheers Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Hi Pascal, Just looking through these pictures again, I've taken a fancy to that motor (admiral's?) barge. Do you happen to have quality drawings of it? Not for now, but perhaps later that might make an excellent subject for me (@ 1/48th or even 1/24th...). I 'm always on the lookout for potential models Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 No Steve, I think this newer one has the same shell, but smaller. https://museemaritime-larochelle-fr.translate.goog/un-avant-gout/les-collections/flotte-patrimoniale/vedette-duperre?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp Personal pictures: DUPERRÉ TYPE Service boat FEATURES Officers' launch, molded wooden hull LENGTH (hull/overall) 8,47 m MASTER BAU 2.39 m DRAUGHT 1,26 m GAUGE/TONAGE 5.27 tx (tonnes) PROPULSION Hispano Hercules mechanics RMH50c OWNER City of La Rochelle - Maritime Museum HISTORICAL Built by the shipyards of Cherbourg in 1954, she was assigned as a star for officers on the squadron escort DUPERRÉ, launched in 1956 in Lorient. When the latter was disarmed in 1992, the star was given by the French Navy to the city of La Rochelle, godmother of DUPERRÉ. PROTECTION Listed as a Historic Monument on 02/04/2013. DOCUMENTATION Protection file (archives of the armies of Châtellerault). RESTORATION AND OPERATION Restored in 2018 by the DESPIERRES shipyard, the DUPERRE star takes part in summer events and gatherings of traditional boats organized by the Maritime Museum of La Rochelle. Do not climb 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Improvements of the 340 mm turrets details thanks to the new pictures. Striles to avoid sliding near the ladder, riveting of the roof, installation of hinges on the small ventilation flaps. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Exceptional research skills too. Fantastic work. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Iceman 29 said: No Steve, I think this newer one has the same shell, Thanks Pascal, that's a shame, the rounded back to the stern cabin looks so cool (and if I may say, French...). The modern motor launches don't really do it for me but that's some more great resource material, certainly good enough to build from I like the rivets, got to pile in those extra details Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 You speak about this one or Strasbourg launch boat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Yup, it was that one. I liked the round end to the cabin, very cool Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Yes very nice this one, Steve, it's a steam boat, i think. Sketch of the design of the launch boat cranes. It was rivet day! And I laid less than half of it.. 😜 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 I finished the cranes for the boats, two days of drawing. I've had my fill of rivets! A crane contains 2100 objects, rivets included. The result seems to be correct thanks to the very small profile drawing and especially to the two detailed HD pictures I found recently on the internet. Without that, the result would have been much less close to the original. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 When I look at the models of the big manufacturers, I notice how sloppily they are designed. Partly with ridiculous issues, such as Trumpeters Graf Spee's upside-down stern anchor. Although they have both financial and human resources, and yet the results are a disgrace compared to your work! Regards Andreas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Andreas.R said: When I look at the models of the big manufacturers, I notice how sloppily they are designed I agree completely Andreas. Anything made my people can be wrong. Stuff made against a manufacturer's budget even more so. Building from kits means you inevitably end up inheriting other people's mistakes. At least with scratch-building, you only have yourself to blame This 3D model is quite frankly incredible, I'm loving watching it develop Cheers Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Totally agree with @Andreas.R & @Steve D comments. What I'd like to know after you're done those billion rivets is, how big are those things, would they be printable? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 The rivets will show for having tested it already. Continuation of the design of the rear mast with its platforms. I still have to modify a railing on platform 2 to fit the reality of the many pictures. There is a sighting device on this platform, I have no details about this device unfortunately. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 Scale ModelWorld 2022 in Telford, UK; https://www.modellmarine.de/index.php/fotogalerien/215-ausstellungen/6738-scale-modelworld-2022-in-telford-teil-1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 Drawing of the front and rear searchlight sights. For the viewfinder devices I mentioned above, I think they were devices for projectors that were remotely controlled by their viewfinder. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k17090n Drawing of the yardsticks. Modifications to the railings. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 The CAD images are a work of art in their own right Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekz Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Are you going to print the rigging on a 3D printer too?😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 No, it should be done with stretched sprue. Drawing it will help me to place them. The general 3D drawing is more pleasant with it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/16/2022 at 11:44 PM, robgizlu said: The CAD images are a work of art in their own right Rob He is the "fusionist"! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Drawing of the rails of the numerous rear searchlights, deck taps, rangefinders of the 140mm casemate guns. Replacement of the propellers by 3 blades. The only photo I have of the rangefinders on the 140mm guns The famous protective "railings", here on the rear deck. A deck light on wheels, unidentified French ship. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 A lot of little things have been added or modified, today a lot of work has started, to add many details seen on the last pictures found on the internet. You have to look at these pictures many times to discover all these details that sometimes escape our eye at the beginning. I had forgotten about the stairs between the rear stack and the launch boat platform. I still have to add fuel tanks to fill up the motorboats. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Telford, part 4: https://www.modellmarine.de/index.php/fotogalerien/215-ausstellungen/6741-scale-modelworld-2022-in-telford-teil-4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Tres belle. And thanks for the Telford pics link Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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