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Battleship Bretagne - France - 3D realisation - 1:200 scale


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Indeed Steve! 🙄

 

I continued to draw the back of the second bridge, which is rather complicated.


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A great set of very very useful photos retrieved from the french defense server. Some of them are very nice.

 

I hadn't thought of searching this site for some reason. 🙄

 

https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/fr/catalogsearch/result/?q=cuirassé&avec_visuel=1

 

These are detail pictures which was very rare at the time. 

 

It allows you to see some details that you can't see on the usual wide shot photos.

 

I put some pictures of a canoe from Strasbourg that could be useful.

 

There are also some pictures of the Courbet, interesting for the projectors among other things.

 

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Bretagne., exit from the refit. Secret image for a long time, the name is deleted.

 

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47mm gun and sight.

 

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Service boat of the Strasbourg.

 

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It's time to eat in front of the kitchen. The loading pole at the top right is used for loading coal.

 

Note the lamp post, there is very little deck lighting on this ship. 

 

This is often the case on warships. But on this type of battleship it is very minimalist.

 

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Bretagne. Loading of 340 mm shells between turret A and B probably.

 

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Excellent view of the Bretagne. crane, the spire is not openwork.

 

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Bretagne.

 

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Scrap 340mm guns.

 

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Courbet.

 

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Courbet, the only detail view of a remote-controlled projector. Rangefinder, amusing the balancing weights. 

 

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Lorraine.

 

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Lorraine, you can see the riveting of the turret roof. The carriage foot of the 47 mm gun. Spiral grooves near the ladder to prevent slipping.   

 

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Lorraine.

 

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Provence.

 

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You have to love deck shots, the holy grail of ship modelling.....

 

Wonderful work as ever, this thread is a major resource for those coming behind with the courage to tackle such a complex subject

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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Hi Pascal,

 

Just looking through these pictures again, I've taken a fancy to that motor (admiral's?) barge. 

 

Do you happen to have quality drawings of it?  Not for now, but perhaps later that might make an excellent subject for me (@ 1/48th or even 1/24th...).  I

 

'm always on the lookout for potential models

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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No Steve, I think this newer one has the same shell, but smaller.

 

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Personal pictures:

DUPERRÉ
TYPE Service boat
FEATURES
Officers' launch, molded wooden hull
LENGTH (hull/overall)
8,47 m
MASTER BAU 2.39 m
DRAUGHT
1,26 m
GAUGE/TONAGE 5.27 tx (tonnes)
PROPULSION Hispano Hercules mechanics RMH50c
OWNER City of La Rochelle - Maritime Museum
HISTORICAL
Built by the shipyards of Cherbourg in 1954, she was assigned as a star for officers on the squadron escort DUPERRÉ, launched in 1956 in Lorient. When the latter was disarmed in 1992, the star was given by the French Navy to the city of La Rochelle, godmother of DUPERRÉ.
PROTECTION
Listed as a Historic Monument on 02/04/2013.
DOCUMENTATION
Protection file (archives of the armies of Châtellerault).
RESTORATION AND OPERATION
Restored in 2018 by the DESPIERRES shipyard, the DUPERRE star takes part in summer events and gatherings of traditional boats organized by the Maritime Museum of La Rochelle.


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Improvements of the 340 mm turrets details thanks to the new pictures. Striles to avoid sliding near the ladder, riveting of the roof, installation of hinges on the small ventilation flaps.

 

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11 hours ago, Iceman 29 said:

No Steve, I think this newer one has the same shell,

Thanks Pascal, that's a shame, the rounded back to the stern cabin looks so cool (and if I may say, French...).  The modern motor launches don't really do it for me but that's some more great resource material, certainly good enough to build from

 

I like the rivets, got to pile in those extra details

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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Yes very nice this one, Steve, it's a steam boat, i think.

 

 

Sketch of the design of the launch boat cranes. 

 

It was rivet day! 

 

And I laid less than half of it.. 😜

 

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I finished the cranes for the boats, two days of drawing. I've had my fill of rivets! 

 

A crane contains 2100 objects, rivets included.

 

The result seems to be correct thanks to the very small profile drawing and especially to the two detailed HD pictures I found recently on the internet. Without that, the result would have been much less close to the original.

 

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When I look at the models of the big manufacturers, I notice how sloppily they are designed.

Partly with ridiculous issues, such as Trumpeters Graf Spee's upside-down stern anchor.

Although they have both financial and human resources, and yet the results are a disgrace compared to your work!

Regards

Andreas

 

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13 minutes ago, Andreas.R said:

When I look at the models of the big manufacturers, I notice how sloppily they are designed

I agree completely Andreas.  Anything made my people can be wrong.  Stuff made against a manufacturer's budget even more so. Building from kits means you inevitably end up inheriting other people's mistakes.  At least with scratch-building, you only have yourself to blame :banghead:

 

This 3D model is quite frankly incredible, I'm loving watching it develop

 

Cheers

 

Steve

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The rivets will show for having tested it already.


Continuation of the design of the rear mast with its platforms. 

 

I still have to modify a railing on platform 2 to fit the reality of the many pictures.

 

There is a sighting device on this platform, I have no details about this device unfortunately.

 

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Drawing of the front and rear searchlight sights.

 

For the viewfinder devices I mentioned above, I think they were devices for projectors that were remotely controlled by their viewfinder.

 

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Drawing of the yardsticks.

 

Modifications to the railings.

 

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Drawing of the rails of the numerous rear searchlights, deck taps, rangefinders of the 140mm casemate guns.

 

Replacement of the propellers by 3 blades.

 

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The only photo I have of the rangefinders on the 140mm guns

 

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The famous protective "railings", here on the rear deck.

 

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A deck light on wheels, unidentified French ship.

 

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A lot of little things have been added or modified, today a lot of work has started, to add many details seen on the last pictures found on the internet.

You have to look at these pictures many times to discover all these details that sometimes escape our eye at the beginning.

 

I had forgotten about the stairs between the rear stack and the launch boat platform. I still have to add fuel tanks to fill up the motorboats.

 

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