Faraway Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: Maybe your glue will be slower when the weather cools off. Possibly, but it is such a tiny amount. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 @Bertie McBoatface So, here are my two MAJOR headaches. I think I have a plan for the mast diameter reduction, the wooden dowel is approx. 10mm dia. and needs to be reduced at the base to about 7mm dia. to fit In the hole in the deck. The square top, will have a cross tree fitted, so once that is made I'll have a gauge. How I am going to create the skinny bit on the the top section (top gallant ?) I have absolutely NO IDEA. This is the oh so helpful drawing. Wish me luck. Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Faraway said: @Bertie McBoatface So, here are my two MAJOR headaches. I think I have a plan for the mast diameter reduction, the wooden dowel is approx. 10mm dia. and needs to be reduced at the base to about 7mm dia. to fit In the hole in the deck. That's weird. They usually taper towards the top. 🤔 3 hours ago, Faraway said: The square top, will have a cross tree fitted, so once that is made I'll have a gauge. Sound thinking. 3 hours ago, Faraway said: How I am going to create the skinny bit on the the top section (top gallant ?) I have absolutely NO IDEA. You'll find that you can do that with good sharp fresh sandpaper. You'll have to trim the junction between thick and thin with a craft knife though. An excellent opportunity to cut it in half 😄. I would do the truck separately. It's just a flat cylinder on the top. Stick a thin slice of dowel, cocktail stick, skewer, knitting needle on it. 3 hours ago, Faraway said: This is the oh so helpful drawing. I like those printed sections like lollipops, that tell you which dowel to use or the section you are supposed to achieve. 3 hours ago, Faraway said: Wish me luck. Jon May the very best of fortune attend thee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF67 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Looked at Shipyard kits. Question if I may? I was smitten by the Revenge (distant memories of a tiddly little Airfix offering from the sixties!). There seem to be several “extras” like masts, rigging thingies etc. Takes the price from a jolly reasonable £26 ish to nearer £90. Are these extras needed or do they replace kit offerings that need to be worked on? Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Jon, The 'no idea how' bit. Cut it off and drill out the top to substitute some rod? tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, BillF67 said: Looked at Shipyard kits. Question if I may? I was smitten by the Revenge (distant memories of a tiddly little Airfix offering from the sixties!). There seem to be several “extras” like masts, rigging thingies etc. Takes the price from a jolly reasonable £26 ish to nearer £90. Are these extras needed or do they replace kit offerings that need to be worked on? Cheers, Bill My kit, HMS Alert is 1/72 Laser cut paper and card and comes with all the extras, masts,sails, guns etc. If, as I think, you are looking at the 1/96 paper kit, then, I think, you only get the bare minimum. Have a look here, it’s where I got mine. https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/ Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF67 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Looks like you are right, Jon. Bad form not to make the additional requirements clear. It seems, for Revenge, 3 additional sets are required. Boo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 minute ago, BillF67 said: Looks like you are right, Jon. Bad form not to make the additional requirements clear. It seems, for Revenge, 3 additional sets are required. Boo. I wonder if the core kit contains plans for modeller to make the missing parts from scratch. Masts for instance, as Jon is discovering, are just a set of dowels and making your own is a fairly simple process. Rigging blocks are often scratched by ship modellers who want better quality than the kit ones, same for sails. It may be that the Shipyard way of doing things brings the hobby into the affordable range while also offering labour savings for those who can afford to buy their ‘aftermarket’ Some model manufacturers even sell the plans packs for their models as stand-alone items. They are really the only thing a modeller needs. (I buy the kits because I’m impatient 😁) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF67 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said:I buy the kits because I’m impatient 😁) I don’t think anyone planning a 2 year build can be deemed impatient! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, BillF67 said: I don’t think anyone planning a 2 year build can be deemed impatient! Ha. Good point. I wonder how much longer it would be for a total scratch build, X2, X4? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Modelholic said: Jon, The 'no idea how' bit. Cut it off and drill out the top to substitute some rod? tom Genius. That thought never crossed my mind, one problem solved. Thank you. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Faraway said: Genius. That thought never crossed my mind, one problem solved. Thank you. Jon It crossed mine but I'd never have been able to drill it straight so I discarded it, sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bertie McBoatface said: drill it straight Ah. There is always one fly in your beer, but probably easier than trying to sand it to shape. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, Faraway said: Ah. There is always one fly in your beer, but probably easier than trying to sand it to shape. Jon Better a fly in your beer than beer in your flies. I have a lot of trouble getting things straight and square due to my astigmatic eyeballs. I can't judge angles very well at all by eye, but I can feel them. You should see me playing snooker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: It crossed mine but I'd never have been able to drill it straight Gidday, I'm often drilling down into styrene rods etc and I find that rotating the piece being drilled helps to get my drilling more central. Sorry if I'm teaching you the bleeding obvious. Admittedly the rods etc that I'm drilling down into are much smaller and less important than a sailing ships masts. But HTH. Regards, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday, I'm often drilling down into styrene rods etc and I find that rotating the piece being drilled helps to get my drilling more central. Sorry if I'm teaching you the bleeding obvious. Admittedly the rods etc that I'm drilling down into are much smaller and less important than a sailing ships masts. But HTH. Regards, Jeff. Drilling into end grain may be different to styrene. Practice first! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 I’m taking a break from this, before I actually do break something. I like working with card/paper, it makes a change, but it’s these ###### awful instructions or lack of that are becoming VERY irritating. So, I will refresh myself with something else. Hope to be back soon. Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: Drilling into end grain may be different to styrene. Practice first! That's a fair point. I was only considering it from a 'getting it straight' point of view. And Jon, something else? Another 1/700 scale ship? 😖 I'll get my coat and see myself out. 🙂 Regards, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Faraway said: I’m taking a break from this, before I actually do break something. I like working with card/paper, it makes a change, but it’s these ###### awful instructions or lack of that are becoming VERY irritating. So, I will refresh myself with something else. Hope to be back soon. Jon It’s not worth being irritated in this weather. You might break something serious! Instead, enjoy your break. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Hi Jon, I've just trolled through all six pages of your build. I'm not a boat builder, I used to get sea sick whist on Bulwark! The kit looks quite good, even if the instructions were a trial! Take the well deserved break and preserve your sanity. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 16/08/2022 at 12:56, Faraway said: I’m taking a break from this, before I actually do break something. I like working with card/paper, it makes a change, but it’s these ###### awful instructions or lack of that are becoming VERY irritating. So, I will refresh myself with something else. Hope to be back soon. Jon Hi Jon, must say - instructions aside - that she's looking very nice indeed. Hopefully you'll be coming back to her later in the not too distant future? David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Adm Lord De Univers said: Hi Jon, must say - instructions aside - that she's looking very nice indeed. Hopefully you'll be coming back to her later in the not too distant future? David I’m thinking, back to paper ship building after my current USS England build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Maybe I’ll restart Beagle at the same time and keep you company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: Maybe I’ll restart Beagle at the same time and keep you company. Won’t be for a while, keep in touch. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Faraway said: Won’t be for a while, keep in touch. Jon Aye, I'm following already. I'm not in any rush myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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