Bozothenutter Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Would taking a perfectly good B/C, cutting off its nose and intake along the engraved lines. Then doing the same with a perfectly good A and replacing these with the B/C bits get me close to the final Edited July 15, 2022 by Bozothenutter Changed better picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Not really. If you want to make one of the five Mustang X airframes, there is a High Planes limited run kit in 1/72, or in other scales you will need to undertake some scratch-building. The XP-51B nose is much closer to that of the production P-51B than that of the Mustang X Edited July 15, 2022 by Work In Progress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) The nose is still a piece of cake - the worst thing is that both the Mk.X and the XP-51B used a slender (several inches lower in the cockpit area) Allison-engined Mustang fuselage (Mk.I/II or P-51/-51A/A-36). So you have to build everything not on the basis of the ArmaHobby P-51B/C, but on the Academy P-51 kit. Cheers Michael Edited July 15, 2022 by KRK4m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 Do not want the X, just the XP-51B. I like the B look with the 'high' wing. Just noticed I used the wrong pic for the XP-51B, the bottom aircraft has an earlier radiator intake. Had a look at the AM/Academy P-51A and B. Seems the way they are set up, it would at least save me cutting off a nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 Seems for some reason I thought the AM kits came with seperate nacelles.....😒 Must say no to drugs.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Decades before I had made a scratch build with a FROG Mustang for a Mustang X https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/7229347130/in/photolist-wvgyMi-umZeqL-c1Qi33-9BoMbU-S2pHeK-tsjgGs-ox8CjY-fp9iuG-fbsDrL-dBQgij-9tFaxD modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnAndersen Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 You would have to mate a B nose and a B radiator scoop to a A fuselage. And please mind that the A fuselage ought to be somewhat lower than the B. We still need the definitive early Mustang in 1/72 as most model companies offer a B fuselage with their A models. But I understand your wish, It sure looks different... /Finn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 Can't help myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnAndersen Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Not to rain on your parade, but your nice work illustrates that the Allison mustang has the higher fuselage of a Merlin engined, which is not quite correct. Compare with the first picture. It makes the conversion much easier, but largely unnecessary. Model companies, take note of this! /Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, FinnAndersen said: Not to rain on your parade, but your nice work illustrates that the Allison mustang has the higher fuselage of a Merlin engined, which is not quite correct. Compare with the first picture. It makes the conversion much easier, but largely unnecessary. Model companies, take note of this! /Finn Nope, compared the two fuselages the P-51A has the wing mounted higher than the P-51B has ( have not measured, just lined up), so AM got it right. quick compare of the nose cones. taped together , upper edge aligned. Lighter colour is the P-51A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnAndersen Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bozothenutter said: Nope, compared the two fuselages the P-51A has the wing mounted higher than the P-51B has ( have not measured, just lined up), so AM got it right. Perhaps, it's not my scale so can't be sure, but I would have expected the bottom of the engine to be significantly deeper than the wing, as per your picture. Anyway, how do you intend to cut for the radiator? /Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, FinnAndersen said: Perhaps, it's not my scale so can't be sure, but I would have expected the bottom of the engine to be significantly deeper than the wing, as per your picture. Anyway, how do you intend to cut for the radiator? /Finn some thing like this..... upper edge of the cut off B intake needs trimming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Question for the Mustang experts. Am I right in assuming that the pics of the 'high wing' XP-51B, er all there is? would love to find a rear three-quarter shot and what end the lower cowling had on the wing. found this on here, have the book: this online: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Found this on the NASA site, apparently one of the prototypes used for fixing the 'intake rumble' another from the same set: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 The 'sticky back plastic' shot... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Could a mod move this to the section that kills my mojo, gives me stress and reminds me of the other gazillion projects I have ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bozothenutter said: Could a mod move this to the section that kills my mojo, gives me stress and reminds me of the other gazillion projects I have ? As it's a prototype, I guess it could be moved to RFI 🙂 The profile shots you posted really make it look like a racer, a fairly lethal one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Interesting photos. Looks like you'll also need the exhaust panels from a P-51H, and modify them slightly. Justin Edited July 31, 2022 by Bedders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Bedders said: Interesting photos. Looks like you'll also need the exhaust panels from a P-51H, and modify them slightly. Justin Well spotted!, great minds think alike! Depends on what 'plane though. The one I'm making is the one with cannon fitted that seems to have more 'D' like shrouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Anybody have a good source for cockpit layout pics of an Allison Mustang? Specifically interested in the internal support layout. Restoration pics/site would be awesome. Afaics it mostly follows the D, as the biggest difference was the dropped wing, but the devil is in the details.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Which model, as they did change in detail from one to another? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnAndersen Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bozothenutter said: Anybody have a good source for cockpit layout pics of an Allison Mustang? Specifically interested in the internal support layout. Restoration pics/site would be awesome. Afaics it mostly follows the D, as the biggest difference was the dropped wing, but the devil is in the details.... I'm afraid you are mistaken. The B/C and D are not that similar. Allison and B/C would be nearer each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, gingerbob said: Which model, as they did change in detail from one to another? That's the thing. XP-51B started as an Allison engined P-51 that had the Merlin mounted by North American. The version I'm working on the the final one which has pretty much the B radiator intake, but still had the high mounted wing. So it'll be a mix of A and B cockpit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, FinnAndersen said: I'm afraid you are mistaken. The B/C and D are not that similar. Allison and B/C would be nearer each other. Oops, my bad, meant B/C. Though a lot of the existing internal structure was only modified where needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Sorry, I neglected to consider the context! I'll have to see what, if anything, I can offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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