81-er Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Hopefully you don't muck up the paintjob, Robert. If those paints turn out to be ok to use, I might well be interested in the details for the supplier James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Thanks James. 14 minutes ago, 81-er said: If those paints turn out to be ok to use, I might well be interested in the details for the supplier If the paint works, I'll share the supplier's details, I'm sure a few people want RAL colours on occasion. My concerns are more the masking I've let myself in for, and cleaning the Airbrush after each colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Two coats of primer, very lavish Robert! Very interested to see how those paints turn out. 🇺🇦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Lovely primer job, Robert. I wish I could get it to lay down that nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Started painting the Tiger with the Tiefschwartz (black), then realised I'd left off some lights on the fuselage. Added the lights, masked up, sprayed on primer, and then remembered Enzo 😳, so, quickly, whipped out the camera, and took these images: Kit masked for priming lights (with primer) Stripping the outer wrap away gave us And the overall effect .... OK, initial thoughts about that car paint: It is different. I tried thinning with white spirit. It didn't smell right; it sprayed, but the stuff just kept getting gloopier and gloopier. Not impossible; I'd started on the starboard tail, and seen plenty of splattered paint, but that covered in the end, as you can see from the picture above. I started thinking, I had used paint that looked like this before, like decades ago. And that smell? Maybe its dope? Cellulose dope. That takes me back to balsa gliders covered in tissue paper. Alright, a trip to the local hardware store, see if he had some cellulose thinner? He did! Reassuringly, there was a picture of an airbrush on the bottle. Alright, try mixing the new thinner with the car gloop. Sort of runny, like no-fat milk. Spraying, it looked OK. Not really, more like a very fine sand paper. Well, I was desperate, by this time, I'd accept anything that sprayed. I let it dry overnight. At this stage, it looked OK, very OK. Then I remembered the fuselage lights (see above). Verdict? The jury is still out on this stuff, but, the signs are hopeful. Side note: I was worried about cleaning the airbrush after using this stuff. Two cups of thinner later, and that *might* be the best and quickest airbrush clean up job I've ever done? Far and away better than enamel (I hate cleaning up after enamel paints), but (hope) better than acrylics too. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Robert Stuart said: I hate cleaning up after enamel paints Same here; I prefer the paints to acrylics but man, cleaning up after them is a ballache of the highest order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Serious making there Robert, nothing was going to get through that plastic. 🇺🇦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 @Robert Stuart, did you notice any detrimental effect to the airbrush (pretzeled seals etc) from using the cellulose thinners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jackroadkill said: @Robert Stuart, did you notice any detrimental effect to the airbrush (pretzeled seals etc) from using the cellulose thinners? Not yet. For what it's worth, I use an H&S Evolution Silverline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Robert Stuart said: Not yet. Hmmm, maybe I'll have a crack with cellulose thinners myself, then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I use an H&S Evolution Silverline as well, and I've not had any seal issues yet. I've been spraying a mix of acrylics thinned with Tamiya thinner (and also Mr Color Levelling), Alclad cleaned up with cellulose (including some overnight soaks to get rid of crud), and lacquers thinned with Mr Color Levelling. Honestly my only problems have been down to either crud in the paint, or crud from not cleaning it thoroughly enough. James 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 Thanks James That helps my confidence with this paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 Thought I'd spend a quiet few hours masking my F-5E. Four days later, I'm calling it. Mask design for the upper fuselage: The orange squares are 1cm scaling guides Cutting that out by hand was unappealing, to say the least. So, I tried a Cricut cutter for the first time. OK, I can see possibilities with that (I wonder how rich Santa will be this year?) As I say, it took four days to get to this stage. Some of those wing roots will need attention; maybe another few hours ... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 And there I was regretting the masking job I had to do! My hat is well and truly doff'd in your direction, Robert, and I'm fully in awe at your dedication to that James 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 That masking looks like it will work very well Robert, and as James says it shows a great deal of commitment to getting the best looking finish on your model, really looking forward to seeing it removed and the final effect. 🇺🇦 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Painting today yesterday, three colours, and I'm whacked. This was the second colour, yellow. The underside? Well, a reveal of that should be later in this post. Lots of layers of yellow here. In the paint's defence, it was over black paint, when the maker recommends grey primer. And, after the third colour was applied, and masking removed. And, the underside A nit of retouching is needed, I'll worry about that later. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisj2003 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 That is something special. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Oh yes Robert, you are building the year 2001 J-3003, Sinacat 😍!!! great masking job! The airframe is now an F-5N with VMFT-401. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Thanks @Chrisj2003, and @Sam Sam, you got me, that is the airframe I'm trying to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I shall consider myself well and truly schooled, after seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I can only echo what everyone else is saying, excellent work and one heck of a paint job! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 That really is something special Robert, she looks fantastic. The fading with the yellow to the orange on the spine has worked very well indeed and the whole effect is very eye catching and is going to look superb with the decals on. 🇺🇦 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Thanks guys, that's great feedback. So good, that I went straight to the decal stage, without varnishing first. This is what it looks like now: There was one hiccup, the decal sheet has lots of serial numbers for Swiss airframes, but I couldn't see J-3003, the number carried by this Tiger. There were plenty of options that could be adapted. I chose J-3030. Next, re-touching, final details, and (hope) varnishing. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 It's looking fantastic, Robert! James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattheCat Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Top notch paint job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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