elger Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, VT Red Sox Fan said: Elger, what a great build—I don’t have much to add because I learn so much from your work—if I may, 2 quick questions and I apologize if I missed them in this catch up—what brand or mix did you use for Bronze Green and what grey did you use for the crankcase? Amazing work and thanks for sharing—best, Erwin Thanks! Both are Vallejo Model Color paints; the green is 70980 Black Green and the grey is 70869 Basalt Grey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 One detail I had postponed until now was the 108 gallon fuel tank. Even though it's not great I'll be using the kit item - I think I'm going to sand down the ridges at the front and back. More importantly however I decided to add the pipes. I carefully bent some stretched clear sprue to simulate the glass pipes of the plumbing. There was a very useful thread over on LSP that I used for reference: https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/92155-anyone-have-any-decent-photos-of-p47-flat-belly-tank-plumbing/ As always, thanks for looking! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 I did not take a picture of the white ID bands, but I did snap one after priming it black with Mig One Shot: After this coat, I'm trying something new: instead of pre-shading I'm going to see what the result is of "reverse pre-shading" in the sense that I painted all the panel and rivet lines with a light version of Olive Drab. My thinking is that when I follow this up with a thin coat of regular Olive Drab the panel lines might look elevated and the darker bits recessed, creating a bit of oil canning effect. (I think regular preshading gets it the wrong way around) Just a little experiment: I'll update you about the results 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Wow! That’s some pre-shading. John 🇺🇦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Looks fantastic. Interested to see how the inverted pre shade goes. 👏🤞😀 Johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 The Olive Drab is on and the shades and highights are still just visible Next Neutral Gray. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 The underside received the same 'reverse preshading' treatment. First a coat of lightened Neutral Gray: Next this was filled in with Neutral Gray mixed with clear gloss and this was misted on. The fuselage centre and the cowl was treated with the more traditional marbling. There's a couple of touch ups needed but overall the main paint job has gone rather well. This was my second use of AK Interactive Third Generation acrylics and they went on very smoothly. Thanks for looking!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Using my Silhouette Cameo cutter I created a mask for the aircraft's name, "Mike III". I'm guessing yellow paint was used. It came out alright (hope the minor touch ups needed will fade under a coat of clear flat) Now it's ready for decals: Thanks for looking! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Decals are on A couple of stencils I used from the kit (the kit has stencils for the early Curtiss Electric propeller) but most are from Kits-World. I ended up needing to buy a second of their P-47 stencils and insignia sheet because 42-7924 had national insignia on both lower wings so I needed a third set. The radio code and the serial number also came from Kits-World decal sheets. I made the "F" out of another "P". The Kits-World decals are very nice to use, although the white is a little translucent. I did some more work 'restoring' the name Mike III and now it looks acceptable. The underside with the stars on both wings: I've already sealed the decals with a coat of clear gloss. Next up: weathering. As always, thanks for looking! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGauld Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 There is some stunning work going on here. Looks fantastic. Cheers, Alistair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 The pre shade has worked really well. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s different to what I’m used to but for some reason it feels odd, but I do like it. I’ll need to have more looks at her tomorrow. Interesting that the central fuselage on the underside was more traditional as in light in the panel centre and dark at the edges. Why did you decide to do both? Just curious and intrigued. Excellent work on all accounts though. 👌👌👌 Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 hours ago, The Spadgent said: The pre shade has worked really well. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s different to what I’m used to but for some reason it feels odd, but I do like it. I’ll need to have more looks at her tomorrow. Interesting that the central fuselage on the underside was more traditional as in light in the panel centre and dark at the edges. Why did you decide to do both? Just curious and intrigued. Excellent work on all accounts though. 👌👌👌 Johnny Thanks! I did the more traditional marbling and leaving the panel lines darker in areas that had large panels (like the belly underside and the cowl). The reverse preshading appears to have the most convincing effect in areas where there are small panels. But I do realize that the optical oil canning illusion that it aims to create is that the panels are recessed (that they are 'sucked' into the surface in the middle and are raised where the panel/rivet lines are) rather than that they are bulging out (being raised in the middle of the panel and the panel/rivet lines being recessed). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 hours ago, elger said: Thanks! I did the more traditional marbling and leaving the panel lines darker in areas that had large panels (like the belly underside and the cowl). The reverse preshading appears to have the most convincing effect in areas where there are small panels. But I do realize that the optical oil canning illusion that it aims to create is that the panels are recessed (that they are 'sucked' into the surface in the middle and are raised where the panel/rivet lines are) rather than that they are bulging out (being raised in the middle of the panel and the panel/rivet lines being recessed). Ahhhh I see what you’re doing now. I didn’t realise you were getting the panels to look indented slightly. It does work but it still messes with my mojo. Permission to carry on. Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Did some panel lining with Tamiya enamel wash - but the effect is rather heavy. Considering redoing it with brown, rather than black... Thoughts? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I think brown would be better, I rarely use black, I think it’s too stark. I use Flory wash ‘dirt’ mostly. HTH. John. 🇺🇦 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos brierley Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Hi elger, as a talking point, I never use black as a wash, not even on a recent black model. For many years I’ve used a dark brown wash for almost everything, but , another recent P-47 build saw me taking a whole different path, this time around saw me using dark green for the olive drab, and a blue-ish wash for the neutral grey. If you’ve ever been to RAF Cosford and looked at the RAF Hercules from a distance your eyes will be telling you the panel lines are dark green. Also of note is how I’d weathered the model prior to the panel line wash, I have for a long while sprayed the panel lines a weathering colour in this case faded olive drab, this then made the dark green pin wash pop out. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 Not forgetting about details such as the landing gear... Should have it finished this week! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 oh, hello really getting close to the finish line now 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 And finished! RFI thread here: Thank you all for watching & giving helpful input along the way! 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.au Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Very nice; I reckon it’ll look good from about two scale feet away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Wow! If there was ever an advert for larger scale planes, this would be it. Smashing detail and a nice write up too. Thanks, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 As usual late for the party but still highly impressive and very handy as I have just bought one of these kits. Cheers Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bissyboat Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Great thread and well done on the Jug. ⚓🙌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elger Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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