Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, arfa1983 said: My two cents,if anyone cares. I would say that the two aircraft are more similar to each othwr than the legacy hornet and super hornet are to each other, which were included in a STGB. Same idea but going the other way. The Navy decided to finally build the Hornet the way it should have been from the start. Well at least in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 6:22 AM, Enzo Matrix said: It's a bit of a fine line. The current Dornier 17 family STGB includes the Do 215 and Do 217, but they are very obvious developments of the Do 17. On the other hand, there is a groupbuild in the Bunfight for Hawker aircraft from the Tornado to the Sea Fury. Although there is a clear line of development, they are obviously different types so it becomes a standard GB. I think in this case it's best to look at it as the law would: is there precedent? I believe so. In a Spitfire STGB a few years ago we allowed the Spiteful and Seafang to be included. I think there is a similar relationship between the F-8 and A-7. We've done it before, so in fairness we should do it again. But I'm still not convinced they are they same type. well to add my 2 cents worth (real ozzie 2 cents as well! ) it is a wee bit of a stretch for an STGB. There are a lot of external similarities between the two and probably a wee bit of DNA, but........ But if it means they go through to next year then why not........ plus there is a precedent, the Mitsubishi F.2 in the F-16 STGB, look similar, but share nothing in common build wise. But at the same time I'm interested so sign me up and partner in crime @helios16v will probably join in as well if he can find some plain old boring .....ie Non-CAG decals 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 8:59 AM, trickyrich said: well to add my 2 cents worth (real ozzie 2 cents as well! ) it is a wee bit of a stretch for an STGB. There are a lot of external similarities between the two and probably a wee bit of DNA, but........ But if it means they go through to next year then why not........ plus there is a precedent, the Mitsubishi F.2 in the F-16 STGB, look similar, but share nothing in common build wise. But at the same time I'm interested so sign me up and partner in crime @helios16v will probably join in as well if he can find some plain old boring .....ie Non-CAG decals cool rich. nice to have you onboard 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 3:12 AM, modelling minion said: How am I supposed to cut back on my GB/STGB commitments when you keep coming up with such good ideas for them?😁 I really enjoyed building Monogram's F-8 for the mud movers GB so I am more than happy to build another, or the Hasegawa F-8J I have, or the Hasegawa A-7D, or the HobbyBoss TA-7... anyway you get the picture. 🇺🇦 haha....I just found this one.......cutting back on GB/STGB's!!!! That's like me saying I'm not buying any more AM stuff...... @helios16v saying he's not buying any more Phantoms!! 🤣 Just admit it's an addition you can't quit...... now where was I on evilBay! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 9 hours ago, trickyrich said: haha....I just found this one.......cutting back on GB/STGB's!!!! That's like me saying I'm not buying any more AM stuff...... @helios16v saying he's not buying any more Phantoms!! 🤣 Just admit it's an addition you can't quit...... now where was I on evilBay! Yeah I know, but we all have to have goals don't we.😁 🇺🇦 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneheadff Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I would like to try it...again. Maybe I can finish one this time. I have several Hasegawa 1/48 A-7E/D and several F8...plus an EA-7L and a RF-8G conversion 😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 9:37 PM, Dansk said: i dont know what that means but my much more qualified excellent co-host dennis @Corsairfoxfouruncle probably does. Dennis he's not trying to turn a corsair into a boat or something is he? that's not allowed 🙃 This will be my Build when we get a go looking forward to this build may do a F8 as well Wellzy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 8:58 PM, Dansk said: Not sure if we've done this before but these two bedfellows could make a nice stgb or 'dtgb' (double type group build) 1 @Dansk host 2 @Corsairfoxfouruncle co host 3 @JosephLalor 4 @Marklo 5 @Evil_Toast_RSA 6 @Jb65rams 7 @DaveJL 8 @Jabba 9 @Procopius 10 @modelling minion 11 @Navy Bird 12 @stevehnz 13 @almac 14 @Stephen 15 @Ray_W 16 @franky boy 17 @PattheCat 18 @AntPhillips 19 @Wellsey 20 @Ghostbase 21 @trickyrich Just a small thing 19 should read wellzy don't know who wellsey is lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/3/2022 at 6:52 PM, coneheadff said: I would like to try it...again. Maybe I can finish one this time. I have several Hasegawa 1/48 A-7E/D and several F8...plus an EA-7L and a RF-8G conversion 😁 super. we'll help you get it across the line 👍 14 hours ago, wellzy said: Just a small thing 19 should read wellzy don't know who wellsey is lol he's gone and you're in now 🤣 14 hours ago, wellzy said: This will be my Build when we get a go i like 😎 an aggressor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 @Dansk, you know what you may have stumbled on a great idea which would solve a few problems we've had with some STGB ideas.......who would have believed you'd come up with a great idea!! Having a DTGB Double Type GB (not to be confused with the LGBTQIA+GB ) would be a great idea and solve a few problems we have had with some of the GB/STGB ideas. Having double type build would solve issues similar to this one but would also offer up some great combo builds!! Spitfire vs Bf-109, Mig-21 Vs F-4 Phantom, M4 Sherman vs Panzer IV or Tiger, or conflicts Iran vs Iraq, North vs South Korea, plus zillions of other pairings!!! We can have these now as GB's but getting numbers can and are much harder to get, and it 's a bit of fresh air in the STGB/GB mix....... Maybe one DTGB a year (or 2 if idea is super popular.... Glorious Leader @Enzo Matrix what do you think ok I've finished hijacking this thread.... for now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 hours ago, trickyrich said: @Dansk, you know what you may have stumbled on a great idea which would solve a few problems we've had with some STGB ideas.......who would have believed you'd come up with a great idea!! Having a DTGB Double Type GB (not to be confused with the LGBTQIA+GB ) would be a great idea and solve a few problems we have had with some of the GB/STGB ideas. Having double type build would solve issues similar to this one but would also offer up some great combo builds!! Spitfire vs Bf-109, Mig-21 Vs F-4 Phantom, M4 Sherman vs Panzer IV or Tiger, or conflicts Iran vs Iraq, North vs South Korea, plus zillions of other pairings!!! We can have these now as GB's but getting numbers can and are much harder to get, and it 's a bit of fresh air in the STGB/GB mix....... Maybe one DTGB a year (or 2 if idea is super popular.... Glorious Leader @Enzo Matrix what do you think ok I've finished hijacking this thread.... for now! Super cool Rich. A DTGB as a regular concept opens up a world of potential. They don't have to be rivals either - bedfellows like; flying fortress and super fortress, spitfire and hurricane, etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 13 hours ago, trickyrich said: Spitfire vs Bf-109, Mig-21 Vs F-4 Phantom, M4 Sherman vs Panzer IV or Tiger, or conflicts Iran vs Iraq, North vs South Korea, plus zillions of other pairings!!! Sounds like a Dogfight Double GB to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 22 hours ago, trickyrich said: @Dansk, you know what you may have stumbled on a great idea which would solve a few problems we've had with some STGB ideas.......who would have believed you'd come up with a great idea!! Having a DTGB Double Type GB (not to be confused with the LGBTQIA+GB ) would be a great idea and solve a few problems we have had with some of the GB/STGB ideas. Having double type build would solve issues similar to this one but would also offer up some great combo builds!! Spitfire vs Bf-109, Mig-21 Vs F-4 Phantom, M4 Sherman vs Panzer IV or Tiger, or conflicts Iran vs Iraq, North vs South Korea, plus zillions of other pairings!!! We can have these now as GB's but getting numbers can and are much harder to get, and it 's a bit of fresh air in the STGB/GB mix....... Maybe one DTGB a year (or 2 if idea is super popular.... Glorious Leader @Enzo Matrix what do you think ok I've finished hijacking this thread.... for now! 8 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said: Sounds like a Dogfight Double GB to me... You boys want to re-invent the wheel? Although a DTGB slot once a year, a "bye" without Bunfight, will get my support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said: Sounds like a Dogfight Double GB to me... Mmm can just imagine B-17's taking on B-24's or Lancasters!! But as Paul mentions they don't have to be adversaries, but could almost be a like a fly-off between types. 2 hours ago, vppelt68 said: You boys want to re-invent the wheel? Although a DTGB slot once a year, a "bye" without Bunfight, will get my support! Arrrr yes we have had one of those and I know there have been similar ideas, but the thinking is the build is just between 2 types rather then flying adversaries, it would open it up to other build types. Maybe even one between the top 2 losers from the STGB vote? Just an idea to freshen up the builds........ and to annoy Paul by going off subject...... again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattheCat Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 What a good idea. Could also be a bomber and it's fighter escort plane, a mass production car and it's rally counterpart ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 46 minutes ago, PattheCat said: What a good idea. Could also be a bomber and it's fighter escort plane, a mass production car and it's rally counterpart ..... a superhero figure and his sidekick, the posssibilities are endless. I'm glad you brought this up here @trickyrich it definitely didn't skew the thread off topic at all. 😉 I've never found an excuse to use this emoji until now yay! ..... it looks a bit mean though. here's a nicer ending... 😋 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I aim to please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 here's some eyecandy to help woo some more votes for this 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I saw this the other day too, now this is super scary!!!! Plus there's a diorama challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I just bought this at Fairford - count me in please. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, theplasticsurgeon said: I just bought this at Fairford - count me in please. Just a word of caution. The French aircraft had a different slat arrangement so if you build one of these options, you may need to do a bit of scribing. There are some seriously - and I mean seriously - excellent marking options on that decal sheet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, theplasticsurgeon said: I just bought this at Fairford - count me in please. My personal choice would be the VF-11 Red Rippers or possibly the VMF(aw)-212 Lancers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Go on then. sign me up as well! Pappy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said: Just a word of caution. The French aircraft had a different slat arrangement so if you build one of these options, you may need to do a bit of scribing. There are some seriously - and I mean seriously - excellent marking options on that decal sheet. Seriously excellent decals for those options. It's very unlikely that a French Crusader would be my choice, most likely the VF-11 Red Rippers option. And I've got this excellent book, which shows a sequence of photos where aircraft 5357 of VF-11 crashes spectacularly off the angled flight deck. Pilot shown reaching for the face curtain as it leaves the deck. He was rescued following ejection. Which shows French Navy used the double slat arrangement wing, as used on the F-8J. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 +1 I may have some F-8s - although I must admit having used the Italeri one mostly as paint mule due to the disappointing plastic. Decal sheet's great though, and perfectly reusable on a more decent Hase or Academy kit - or even the Heller if you can find those. edit: oh wait, SLUFs too? Excellent, that means I can get rid of build the remaining old ESCI one: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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